Cruel Hand Luke

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Would be interesting to see if the gun was stolen......

If you target the 5% of serious criminals that commit 95% of the violent crime and either kill them or lock them away then your problem largely solves itself. Unfortunately too many interest groups need those people committing the crime to keep said interest groups relevant.

This one is coming up in ONE MONTH!!!! This is the chance to take your red dot pistol and run it in almost every conceivable situation and see just where and how it magnifies your abilities and how to get the most out of it. Things can be done with a red dot pistol that are much more difficult with iron sights. Come out and learn with us and push your skills to the next level!

The ironic thing is that there are those who support him and/or his party that buy guns too...in fear that he and/or his party might make it so that they may not be able to get them later.....

A wise policy. Like I said, it might not have applied to you specifically and it is possible they have a "random metric" for picking folks ...you may have just gotten randomly picked twice.

Just curious....did you have a knife on you at the time? I'm curious as to their reaction to someone with a pocket knife on them when they get them to go through the metal detectors....

The guys that got screened had a certain "look"? Hmmmm imagine that. If you roll into the Magic Kingdom looking like you just got off the plane from Bagram Airfield then yes you are going to draw attention to yourself...just like if you were wearing a shemagh. I see it all the time. The dudes who look all "hard" are the ones who draw the eye of Mordor to them. I do my best "fat, dumb and happy" impersonation, smile and look like I am happy to be there when going into the park (or anywhere) and no one even gives me a second look. You can be "aware" and be "switched on" without your body language screaming "look at me I'm a bad ass!". If you want to avoid any unpleasant imperial entanglements your body language should say "nothing to see here". Not saying this was necessarily the case with cmsmith, but like Gotthegoods mentions, those who do not blend in with the crowd draw extra attention form security people no matter the venue. On the other hand....for all we know Disney may just simply have a certain random denominator for extra screening.

We go about once a year. Last time was in early February. I saw no "wanding" or metal detectors at the Magic Kingdom even though they were supposedly already in use at that point. I just carried my normal edc knife which no one saw and I had no issues. Like I said I did not see ANY magnetometers or wanding at that point. We stayed at Art of Animation and there were no "checkpoints" or anything and no "No Weapons" signs...but again that has been since February. I normally carry when not in the parks...because I normally carry in every day life everywhere that does not involve a metal detector. I might have carried firearms in the parks in the past, but I normally do not and have not felt the need to. I've not been so much afraid of getting jacked while in the parks, as something happening going to and from. Carrying in the parks has been historically doable (concealed means concealed) and there were no metal detectors, but the Disney parks probably have more on site plain clothed security and cameras being monitored than anywhere else in the world.

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This one is coming up in just over a month. This is not the kind of class you can get just anywhere. Most ranges would not allow you to stand still and shoot in low light (or no light) much less doing it while drawing from a holster. Don't miss this chance to get realistic training for realistic problems in low light environments.

Just some random thoughts..... Everyone wants to do something...until they actually have to DO something. That is just how it is in life no matter whether we are talking about shooting, or getting in better shape or cleaning out the garage. It is hard to get a group together to do any kind of "tactical " training on a regular basis. If you have a group that will meet for more than 3 or 4 times you have something special going and when it ends don't cry because it is over, but smile because it even happened in the first place. Seriously.... training groups tend to be short lived. People will tell you they are interested until they actually have to do something. The number of people actually willing to do the work is small. One reason that gun clubs don't already offer this type thing is because of liability. My local club (Chattanooga Rifle Club) will not allow you to draw a gun from a holster unless it is in a match. I then ask "how are we supposed to practice for the match here if we can't draw from the holster?" and the answer is "that is not our problem". The real reason is that ANY one with zero training can join and use the club facilities. We have guys who are occasional recreational shooters who shoot once or twice a year and we have guys who are highly accomplished shooters who have shot in IDPA World Championship matches...and every level in between. So to keep the likelihood of accidental shootings to a minimum the range simply functions as a place to do recreational shooting , not realistic competitive or self defense shooting. They offer HCP classes through the club ,but again, the HCP class is NOT really training...it is the bare minimum legal and gun safety info the state feels you should know before they will approve you to carry a gun on your person in public.....kind of like comparing the drivers test to get your license to a tactical driving school....they are not at all the same thing. For that matter, Prag and I have talked about doing a Tac Med class in the Knoxville area , possible at ORSA, with NO LIVE FIRE, only airsoft interactive training for context in where and how people suffer traumatic injury in self defense situations and the training in wound care but so far they seem to be deathly afraid of liability.... even though I am an NRA certified instructor, heavily insured and have been teaching professionally since 1999....... And the same applies for many people with private property....many people just do not want to risk an accident on their property. Another reason that folks don't do this is because of too many responsibilities pulling them in other directions. Again, everyone wants to do it until life gets in the way. Nothing wrong with that, and we all have to make choices and take care of responsibilities, but it makes keeping a training group going very difficult. A couple of years ago I ran a local combatives group that sounds kind of similar to what the OP mentions that met ONE night a month and the cost was $20.....it went fine in the winter months , but once the weather got warmer and sun was out longer folks started getting pressure from their wives to spend those evenings with them. The training group pretty much faded away.....and these were guys serious enough to go to multiple gun classes, and come work on empty hand defensive skills and transitioning to weapons (all done dry with blue guns) but they ended up not being able to set aside even ONE night a month once "outside forces" started competing for their time. The other thing is who is going to be "leading" the groups? Someone working for the club (or property owner?) will have to make the time to come out and actually run the sessions. That in and of itself might be an issue getting someone from the range or club to commit to coming out and doing it regularly if they are not getting paid anything extra to do it (see that section about other priorities competing for time). And then who is actually running the sessions? Depending on their level of experience and training that might be good...or it might not. Remember...practice does not make perfect...it makes permanent . Only perfect practice makes perfection permanent. MAybe the "range instructor"? OK. That might be good ....but ...you can get an NRA teaching certification pretty easily...it is essentially a "safety monitor" certification. I have had NRA certified instructors who thought they knew a lot (and they did compared to folks with no previous experience) come to our BASIC class and be almost overwhelmed by how much there was to know that they did not learn in their NRA classes. Again the NRA does not teach "Gunfighting" they teach gun safety. And then there is that pesky profit motive....the range would have to be making enough money to make the "nuisance" of having to have someone run the group or at least monitor the group worthwhile....and at that point it would probably start to get more expensive than people would want. Ranges are businesses and exist to make $$$ . We forget that a lot of times. So unless you find a range owner that wants to get the training and is willing to forego payment for knowledge you might have a hard time selling this to a range .....assuming they don't already think that because they have "been around guns their whole life" they don't need to learn anything else anyway.... And finally the location....are there even enough members of the particular club that would be interested in coming out and doing it? If you have a small club with small membership then you are looking at an exponentially small pool of participants because we pretty much have settled on the numbers of 10% of people get a permit , 1/10 of that number take another class after thier HCP class and 1/10th of that take a second.....it is truly a small pool you are fishing in at that point.... I wish you the best of luck. I just want you to know what you are up against.

12 spots available as of now.

SPECIAL 3 DAY CLASS EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUAREZ INTERNATIONAL RED DOT COMBAT PISTOL SCHOOL NOVEMBER 4-6, 2016 DAYTON, TENNESSEE Price $500 INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRISA few years ago, Suarez began experimenting with the addition of a mini-red dot sight on a Glock 17 slide. That research culminated in the current system which opened a new door to combat shooting skills. These pistols are in the holsters of Special Forces operators, of SWAT and Hostage Rescue Teams, and of discerning performance-seeking private citizens. They have all benefited from the real and tangible skill enhancing characteristics of this systemIn this class you will learn not only the theory and concept of the red dot system on handguns, but you will experience firsthand the improved shooting ability and speed. Head shots at 25 yards, body shots out into rifle distances and an increased speed and surgical accuracy at room distances are just a few of the benefits. You will learn all the shortcuts and training, skill-development tips we have developed through our research into this exciting new realm of pistol fighting. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 3 days TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM AMMUNITION: Approx. 500-1000 rounds (we will shoot as much as you want to shoot), and the usual stuff you bring to a high speed low drag "bitchin guy" class.) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Bring your red dot pistol and appropriate belt, holster, spare mags, ear/eye protection etc. If you do not have a red dot pistol we have a limited number of red dot pistols available for rent. The rental cost will be $50, please call in advance to arrange rental. 423 827 9133 Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County Hwy, Hwy 27 Dayton, TN 37321 423-605-4242 http://www.theridgeshooting.com/ For more info and to register for this class.........http://www.suarezinternationalstore....x#.V8StPvkrKow

If you are concerned with what might happen if you find yourself at arms length when a physical attack starts then this class is for you. Your gun is great, but if you get sucker punched and knocked out your gun will be irrelevant. If you are concerned with how to deal with a REAL WORLD knife attack when the bad guy is just a step or 2 away then this class is for you. Again a gun is great to have but trading shots for stabs at arms length is not a winning hand either....assuming you can even get your gun into play. If you are concerned about what might happen if you find yourself the victim of a "ground and pound " type attack like the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin situation then this class is for you. (If Zimmerman had better ground skills he might not have had to shoot.....) If you want a class where you will learn simple yet effective gross motor skill techniques to solve common touching distance problems and then access your gun, knife, etc then this class is for you. You don't have to be a ninja to make these techniques work and you don't have to study them for 15 years to get them right. It will give you structure and concepts for WHY this stuff works instead of just a a hodgepodge of random techniques and will increase your likelihood of surviving (and winning!) if you find yourself in these dangerous situations. Hope to see you there!

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Just a quick reminder that Oct 22 will be here before you know it. Last time this class sold out (and then some) so don't wait too long to get on the list.....

Yes. Just come on out. ONE WEEK TO GO!!!!!!

Funny how that works out....people who want to learn to play the guitar well normally take guitar lessons . People who want to play golf well take golf lessons.....shooting is one of the things that for some reason people think they are born knowing how to do yet cannot for the life of themselves figure out why they are not getting any better at it.....

I typically see people shoot worse with small .40 cal pistols than with anything else. Quick snappy recoil in light weight guns does not help people do their best work. In fact I have had people come to class with SW Shield in .40 and after class trade it in for a 9mm.

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