Cruel Hand Luke

ONE WEEK TO GO KNOXVILLE !

And it is largely due to what choices the particular branches make. The overwhelming majority (like pretty much all) of the military (Army and Marines) M16A2s were SAFE, SEMI and BURST. The original M4 carbine was the same setup with Burst . The M4A1 is SAFE SEMI and AUTO. There are some SOCOM M4A1s that have a 4 position selector with Safe Semi Burst and Auto. The M4 carbines and then the M16A4 that the USMC adopted in the early 2000s is 3rd burst instead of full auto. Probably just a matter of keeping with the line of thinking that Marines are riflemen and the troops will waste less ammo with a burst setting than a full auto setting. But then again that is why the 1903 Springfield had a magazine cutoff also....couldn't have the troops "wasting" 5 whole rounds from the mag..... Frankly I wouldn't worry about it. Rifle caliber Full Auto fire is best delivered by belt fed guns. You use belt feds to keep the enemy heads down and the riflemen then maneuver and pick em off.

CRG-3 ADVANCED GUNFIGHTING JUNE 3-4, 2017 PRICE $350 LEWISBURG, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS Instructor Bio This course is pure shooting at all ranges. We will spend the morning of the first day polishing up our pistol shooting fundamentals and then spend the remainder of the weekend taking our skills to higher levels. This is a physically demanding course that builds upon what you have already trained in other pistol classes. Course material includes methods for increasing speed and accuracy. In this class, we will do some long range shooting . . . like 75 yards and 100 yards! We will teach you to hit at all possible distances. We will also point shoot from belly to belly distance, while ignoring the use of sights both station stationary, on the move and on the run. We will study the various Threat-Focused Point Shooting systems (Point Shooting) as well as Sight-Focused Shooting Systems and their seamless integration and applications in a total Close Range Gunfighting program. We will shoot from field expedient positions (including one handed, behind cover, etc.). We'll examine special problems such as confined area shooting, shooting in crowded environments and other difficult problems. All attendees should have a high level of skill and a reflexive understanding of safety measures. There is little or no lecturing and the majority of the time is trigger time. Come join us in this exciting and cutting edge training event! CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. MORE INFO AND TO REGISTER CLICK HERE

That is correct. The M16 3 round burst is not always a 3 rd burst. It could be 3, 2, or 1. The HK MP5 2 and 3 round burst trigger packs work differently and give you the correct number each time. The bigger issue is simply that shooting is rather binary....you can either do it well or not. You can either hit what you aim at or not. If round #1 does not hit then rounds 2 and 3 in that burst are unlikely to hit either. So maybe more time should be spent on actually having the troops out SHOOTING and less on multicultural studies and other such silliness. With a little bit of training time and concentration you can get 2 rd (and sometimes singles) off with the selector set on AUTO on an M16. I have video from a few years back at a match (VHS tape not digital)) of shooting an 11.5" barrel M16 and I empty a mag firing consecutive 2 rd bursts with the selector set on AUTO....so I know it can be done. On the other hand a lot of guys who know what they are doing just simply leave it on SEMI and fire quick pairs or triples in CQB and precise singles at distance. Not only does this increase the likelihood of more hits and less misses, it keeps folks from burning through ammo as fast (with little to no effect) .

As mentioned before they are "overbuilt" and reliable but due to the high bore axis they do have a little more muzzle flip than some other designs. But as far as guns that can be found at a "good price" the Ruger P series guns are a solid choice. They were very popular back then with folks not looking to spend $500 or more for a Glock or a SW 3rd Gen or a Beretta or Sig. And for folks looking for a perfectly functional hi cap service pistol on a budget today they are still a good economy choice . As to the Ruger P series being a popular choice "back in the day", I went to Prentice Cooper to shoot some on Dec 26 of 1997 and it seems like everyone in that area must have gotten a P89 or a P94 for Christmas because there were like 8 to 10 guys there with brand new P89s or P94s in the box. That was back when the range was essentially a glorified ditch with 2 shooting tables so you had to wait in line to shoot. So you got to see what everyone was shooting. Nice find!

Just a quick reminder for those needing to get started right, or for those looking to fill in gaps in what you already know or to simply shore up skills you need some work on. This class does all those things. It lays the foundation skills you will need, gets your mindset right and teaches you what to look for to identify criminal assault about to occur and gives you physical and verbal skills to hopefully convince the potential bad guy that you are going to be more trouble than you are worth before he makes the decision to attack. For those looking for a great place to learn the fundamental skills of defending yourself with a pistol this is for you. We cover everything from mindset and awareness and dealing with unknown contacts to disrupting your adversary's OODA loop, accessing your pistol and getting fight stopping hits, after action assessments, malfunction clearance, reloading both proactively and reactively, and many more topics.Hope to see you there!

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An 870 would be fine. It is not really gun specific...any pump or semi would work fine.

As to the stakeout.... just because you asked I will bring my personal version of it - the Witness Protection 12.5" barrel.

The next meeting of the Knoxville TN SUAREZ INT training group will be held on Sunday Feb 26 ! We will be covering pistol skills , shotgun skills and then we will shoot the FBI pistol qualification, the Air Marshal pistol qualification and the FBI shotgun qualification...and a few other surprise drills as well. Date: Sunday Feb 26 Time: 10:00 AM to 3:00 PMSubject: Qualifications and Standards....where do you stack up right now ?Price : $60 pay at class (cash or check)Equipment needed : Pistol and 3 magazines (or 3 speed loaders if you use a revolver) and 150 rounds of pistol ammo, Shotgun and 20 rounds of slugs, 10 rounds of Buckshot Location: 1818 Tarklin Valley Rd Knoxville TN 37920

CLOSE RANGE GUNFIGHTING MAY, 6-7, 2017 price : $350 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS INSTRUCTOR BIO This is our flagship course and goes as far as you can safely go on a square range with live-fire pistols. The dynamic curriculum surpasses the traditional handgun methods commonly taught in most institutions and focuses of the use of the pistol in aggressive close range applications likely in individual civilian street encounters. The class begins with a tune-up of the fundamentals, then we progress quickly to new skills such as Proactive and Reactive Manipulations, Shooting While Moving Off The X, Reality-Based Multiple Hostiles Engagement, 360 degree CQB Movement, Danger-Close Fighting, Bilateral Shooting, 360 degree After Action Assessment Methods, and Integrating the Flashlight and Other Tools into the Firing Platform. This is the life-saving material that is often ignored in many other programs. In two days, you will receive more information than most armed professionals ever get! We must point out that THIS COURSE IS NOT FOR THE NOVICE SHOOTER. If you have not received basic instruction, or have a question about your skill level, please call us first. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Bring your flashlights for the low light module. Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. For more info and to register .....https://suarezinternational.com/crg-2-close-range-gunfighting-may-6-7-2017-chattanooga-tn/

DEFENSIVE SHOTGUN JUNE 11, 2017 PRICE : $200 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRISInstructor BIO : http://suarezinternational.com/randy-harris/The shotgun is the top choice among Americans for limited role home defense. In its niche it is a devastating weapon. This one day class will teach you everything you need to know to employ this iconic American fighting tool to its best utility. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 1 Day TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 100 rounds of Birdshot, 50 rounds of Buckshot, 15 Slugs and 50 rounds of pistol ammunition. RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Shotgun (any caliber pump or semi-auto). All shotguns must be equipped with a sling and a stock. Pistol with at least two magazines, suitable belt, holster, and magazine pouches. A method of carrying extra shotgun ammo (for example: shoulder bag, ammo pouches, side saddle, or butt cuff). Ear & eye protection. Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. For more info and to register.......https://suarezinternational.com/hits...hattanooga-tn/

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CRG-5: ZERO TO FIVE FEET GUNFIGHTING APRIL 1-2, 2017 price: $350 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS Instructor BIO : http://suarezinternational.com/randy-harris/ This revolutionary class focuses on integrating the pistol into the fight at zero to five feet. This is what some trainers call "The Hole" and their entire perspective is to "Get Out Of The Hole". We don't worry about "getting out of the hole" because the reality of it is that you won't. Instead, we get comfortable in there...we set up a nice cozy camp there and learn to thrive where other men fear to walk. We make the other guy want to get out of the hole he finds himself in as we start to rip his head right off his shoulders. This will be a very thorough study on how to prevail and not get killed at this distance interval. We will do a great deal of technical work to ingrain the correct skills and then work them extensively via force on force exercises. You have never sen training and information like this before. While I do want to make sure guys are in reasonable condition to handle this, you don't need to be a hard core athlete to do this. We will play hard. . . . but within reason for the attendees we normally have in class. SOME TOPICS: Dealing against the drawn gun. What are all the options? We will look at everything from running away, to drawing and killing him, stabbing him with a knife, to disarming him and shooting him with his own gun. Dealing against the drawn knife. Both from "hold up" type situations to actual attacks. You will deal with them with the gun in hand (this one is really cool), and with empty hands, leading into a draw and shots as part of the fight. Dealing with a fight in hallways, elevators, phone booths and cars. All empty handed, and with one leading to the other. Dealing with more than one bad guy. How to position and maneuver to deny them the advantage, as well as how to immediately escalate and take them out. The combined use of various tools such as knife and gun, knife and light, light and gun, gun and stick. Not only the how, but the why as well. These and other topics will make this one of the hottest classes available to civilian operators. This course requires prior attendance at an intermediate level Suarez International Pistol class. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 250 rounds (Minimum) and 400 (Minimum) good quality biodegradable pellets. NO STEEL PELLETS. RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Pistol, holster, at least two magazines, and the usual range safety gear (ear and eye protection). Bring an airsoft pistol with the necessary gear (pellets, facemask, etc. - all of it is available at http://www.onesourcetactical.com Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: Phillips/Edwards Farm 763 County Road 332 Pisgah, AL 35765 423-488-4309 For more info and to register....... https://suarezinternational.com/crg-5-zero-to-five-feet-gunfighting-april-1-2-2017-chattanooga-tn/

SUARez International VEHICLE GUNFIGHTING FUNDAMENTALS MARCH 19, 2017 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS Instructor Bio Most of us spend several hours in or around motor vehicles, yet very little time training how to fight in and around them. In this class you will learn how to do just that. We will cover everything from weapon access while seated, shooting from the car, as well as using the car itself as a barrier to attack and for cover. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 1 Day TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 200 rounds (Minimum) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: Phillips/Edwards Farm 763 County Road 332 Pisgah, AL 35765 423-488-4309 For More Info and to Register click here!

This class is the perfect way to get started or would serve as a great tune up for more experienced shooters ! the round count is not super high as this is not just a "learn how to shoot " or a mindless ammo burning class. instead you will learn how to avoid being a victim and how to efficiently and effectively win the fight if you have to fight. CRG-1: PISTOL GUNFIGHTING april 29-30 , 2017 price $350 CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS Instructor's Bio All training must begin with fundamentals. This comprehensive fundamentals class is designed to prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. Through a carefully designed and detailed curriculum we are able to bring you up to a level of skill in a short two day class that previously would take over 4 or 5 days to achieve at other schools. You will learn a complete presentation of the modern combative technique of the pistol which will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. We will also be incorporating fundamental Point Shooting techniques which will prep you for the more advanced courses such as Advanced Reactive Gunfighting. You will learn the components of various point shooting methods and integrate them into your existing skill sets. This knowledge will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. No experience or prior training is needed to attend this class and it is specially suitable for beginners, or as a tune-up for accomplished shooters. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM CST AMMUNITION: Approximately 300 rounds (Minimum) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: Phillips/Edwards Farm 763 County Road 332 Pisgah, AL 35765 423-488-4309 For more info and to register.....For more info and to register click here!

As someone mentioned before, lots of people fed up with the stifling situations in their repressive states like California and Massachusetts move to states that are less restrictive like cities in the South. They move there for the lower taxes, more freedom and less restrictions , lower crime and better standard of living. But when Election Day rolls around they tend to still vote the same way their parents and grandparents always did back where they came from and pretty soon the new place starts looking just like the overtaxed gun banning crime infested $hithole they left behind..... They don't realize that the way WE vote is why our state is where they want to move to and the liberal politicians who claim to want to "take care of you" are who create the mess they moved away from.

Well the first thing is there is no FOID card to have to get here. You simply pay for guns and ammo and take it home...There is a background check on firearms purchased from a dealer but not from individuals. But that is the same every where. You can own NFA items (Machine guns , Silencers, Short barrel Rifles and Shotguns, and AOWs.) Carry permit is shall issue and you can even carry in your car without a permit. And the counties and cities cannot pass more stringent laws than the state laws...and it looks like Monkey Lizard posted his answer while I was typing.....

I get so freakin' sick of hearing this crap.... Do some research on the Kruger-Dunning effect and you'll see why we think that people are better off having some training in safe gunhandling. It essentially states that the less people know the more they THINK they know and the more they do know the more they realize they don't know everything. So essentially the untrained think they know everything and act as if they do. They simply do not know how much they don't know. The trained people realize they don't know it all and act accordingly. THAT is why people who have extensive training backgrounds recommend people get some training. Having seen literally thousands of people shoot at public ranges and in HCP classes and having seen hundreds of people who have had training handle guns and shoot I have a pretty firm conviction based on those experiences as to who I'd rather have walking the streets armed when I and my friends and loved ones could be down range. I guess learning to swim never saved a life and is a useless endeavor and only serves to line the pockets of those who provide swimming instruction ????

And hits on target is more effective than misses....that is the bigger issue. Why is it that the British SAS and SEALS don't complain about 9mm effectiveness putting people down but people who never actually train with pistols say 9 is useless.....maybe it has to do with actually hitting what they aimed at? In fact Bill Davison (former British SF) goes as far as to say that if 9mm doesn't work then all his ammo must have been defective as everyone he shot with it died. A big part of it is simply that the military spends little resources on pistol training for the average soldier. Very few soldiers actually ever use a pistol. Unless they are an MP or in a specialized unit very few guys in the military use pistols AT ALL much less with any regularity. Pistols don't win wars and as such the military spends little resources on training for them with the exception of some specialized units. There are probably 100 support people for every trigger puller and those support people get virtually no training with pistols and the actual 11B (infantry) troops get very little . In fact a good friend of mine who was in the INFANTRY in Desert Storm said after basic training he doesn't even remember SEEING a pistol except on the hip of some higher level officers or MPs. So if few people carry them and even fewer get regular realistic training with them then no wonder there is little confidence in it. As to Sig320 getting the nod over Glock ....the army likes external safeties so that non dedicated personnel (who get little to no training) are at least theoretically less likely to accidentally shoot themselves and others.

Well that bites....

RED DOT COMBAT PISTOL SCHOOL MARCH 24-26, 2017 DAYTON, TENNESSEE PRICE : $500 INSTRUCTOR: RANDY HARRIS A few years ago, Suarez International began experimenting with the addition of a mini-red dot sight on a Glock 17 slide. That research culminated in the current system which opened a new door to combat shooting skills. These pistols are in the holsters of Special Forces operators, of SWAT and Hostage Rescue Teams, and of discerning performance-seeking private citizens. They have all benefited from the real and tangible skill enhancing characteristics of this system In this class you will learn not only the theory and concept of the red dot system on handguns, but you will experience firsthand the improved shooting ability and speed. Head shots at 25 yards, body shots out into rifle distances and an increased speed and surgical accuracy at room distances are just a few of the benefits. You will learn all the shortcuts and training, skill-development tips we have developed through our research into this exciting new realm of pistol fighting. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 3 days TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM AMMUNITION: Approx. 500-1000 rounds (we will shoot as much as you want to shoot), and the usual stuff you bring to a high speed low drag "bitchin guy" class.) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Bring your red dot pistol and appropriate belt, holster, spare mags, ear/eye protection etc. If you do not have a red dot pistol we have a limited number of red dot pistols available for rent. The rental cost will be $50, please call in advance to arrange rental. Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County Hwy, Hwy 27 Dayton, TN 37321 423-605-4242 http://www.theridgeshooting.com/ More info and to register......https://suarezinternational.com/red-dot-combat-pistol-school-march-24-26-2017-dayton-tn/

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