Cruel Hand Luke

JULY 10 we will be at the Windrock Shooting Range for a meeting of the TN/GA/AL training group. "How Qualified Are You?" Training Day at Windrock Shooting Range 720 Windrock Rd, Oliver Springs, TN 37840 (https://windrockshootingrange.com/) Time is 12:30PM to 4:30PM EASTERN TIME. Price is $80 and you will need 120 rounds of pistol ammo and 50 rds of rifle ammo. This one will take place right after the monthly Back Up Gun Match at Windrock . If you want to REALLY test your skills come shoot the BUG match and then shoot the Training Day qualifications with your backup gun ! So again the time on this is 12:30PM to 4:30PM Subject: HOW QUALIFIED ARE YOU ? Instructor: Randy Harris Randy's Bio Location: Windrock 720 Windrock Rd, Oliver Springs, TN 37840 DATE : Saturday July 10 Time: 12:30 PM EASTERN time - 4:30PM EASTERN time Price: $80 - pay at class by cash or check or Electronic payment by paypal or venmo (friends and family option) Paypal - cruelhandluke2000@yahoo.com Venmo - www.venmo.com/Randy-Harris-47 What you need to bring: Pistol, at least 2 pistol magazines and at least 100 rounds of pistol ammo. Revolvers are welcome if you want to party like it is 1899. A Rifle and 50 rounds of rifle ammo. I will try to have ammo available for those who want to replenish what they shoot. We will be shooting some challenging warm up drills and then the Federal Air Marshal pistol qualification, FBI pistol AND RIFLE qualification courses and a few others. I will also keep records of these (if you are happy with your scores) for future reference and use . This will serve to get your shooting prowess on record by a third party in case it is ever needed in the future in some legal matter. This is also something your church might like to have for their records if you are a member of a church security team. As far as the courts are concerned if it isn't documented it didn't happen so this is an opportunity to get some official scores on paper in case you ever need them . Not only that but it will be a good day of shooting some somewhat challenging and well known courses of fire. This is an EXCELLENT chance to bring someone you know who might need a "reality check" on where their skills actually are. We all know people who are gun owners who keep threatening to get some training. The training days (especially the pistol qual day) are a great way to get them into that and show them what is possible with some directed practice and see where they REALLY are at their present skill level. And it is a good chance to get to meet people with the same interests that don't think you are "crazy". ON JULY 17 2021 we will be meeting at the "regular place" for the TN/GA/AL Training Group. This one will be a bit more convenient for the Alabama and Georgia members than the one in Oliver Springs on July 10 . Subject: HOW QUALIFIED ARE YOU ? Instructor: Randy Harris Randy's Bio Location: Phillips /Edwards Farm 763 County Rd 332 Pisgah AL 35765 (about 35 min SW of Chattanooga) Time: 9AM CENTRAL TIME - 3PM CENTRAL TIME ! Price: $80 - pay at class by cash or check or you can pay by electronic payment by paypal or venmo (Friends and family option) Paypal - cruelhandluke2000@yahoo.com Venmo - www.venmo.com/Randy-Harris-47 What you need to bring: Pistol, at least 2 pistol magazines and at least 150 rounds of pistol ammo. Revolvers are welcome if you want to party like it is 1899. A Rifle and 50 rounds of rifle ammo. I will try to have some pistol ammo available for folks who want to replenish what they shoot. We will be shooting some challenging warm up drills and then the Air Marshal , FBI pistol AND RIFLE qualification courses and many others. I will also keep records of these (if you are happy with your scores) for future reference and use . This will serve to get your shooting prowess on record by a third party in case it is ever needed in the future in some legal matter. This is also something your church might like to have for their records if you are a member of a church security team. And finally ON AUGUST 15TH we will be at The Ridge in Dayton TN "Close or Far Rifles Are the Best " Subject: Close or Far Rifles are the Best Instructor: Randy Harris Randy's Bio Location: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County HWY , HWY 27 Dayton TN 37321 Time: 9AM EASTERN time - 3:30PM EASTERN time Price: $80 - pay at class by cash or check or Electronic payment by paypal or venmo. Paypal - cruelhandluke2000@yahoo.com Venmo - www.venmo.com/Randy-Harris-47 What you need to bring: A Rifle and 150 rounds of rifle ammo. At least 2 rifle mags and a way to carry them. Pistol and at least 25 rounds of pistol ammo. We will be working on both close range get off the X type shooting and longer range (100 +) shooting. And just a final reminder EVERYONE is welcome ! The TN/GA/AL Training Group started as a way for alumni of classes taught by Randy Harris to get together and stay current on skills and get some coaching in a one day format at a discounted price from what a normal class would cost. As it continued to grow we opened it up to ANYONE who is interested in coming out and learning some skills and just seeing what it is that we do and meet some new people with the same interests. So even if you are not an alum of one of my classes you are welcome to come join us!

If you have noticed there has been a worldwide uptick in knife attacks by religious extremists over the last few years. Knives are far more easy to procure than a gun and easily concealed. Most people never get any training in dealing with knife attacks and if they survive them it is largely more due to luck or the ineptitude of the attacker than any skillful countermeasure from the victim. This class deals explicitly with reacting to those close range knife attacks and gives you skills and strategies to deal with them should the unthinkable situation arise.

This one is coming up this Saturday !!!

If you look in the background of the pic with Tom and me shaking hands you can see the targets. If I understand your question, all the targets we used were the same but they do make that target in at least 3 variations where the shapes are in different locations and have different numbers. You can see them here..... LE Targets Discretionary Command Targets

For those not familiar with the drill a word of explanation might be in order..... The Casino Drill was created by Tom Givens as a way of practicing accurate shooting at speed, target discrimination, reloads, and thinking with gun in hand. The target is 6 numbered shapes that are shot in order with the same number of rounds as the face value of the target. That is shoot #1 once, #2 twice , #3 three times etc . That adds up to 21 rounds. You NORMALLY start with 7 rounds in the gun, seven rounds in a spare mag, and 7 rounds in a second spare mag. (21 rounds) . And par time to "pass" is 21 seconds. So 21 rounds and 2 reloads distributed among 6 different targets in 21 seconds. When you first do this drill that accomplishes all of those things it is designed to work. But as you shoot it more and more and become accustomed to it, it simply becomes a race to the pre determined #s where you will reload and then you just shoot the correct number of rounds left on that target after the reload (3 on #4 and then 1 on #5 after the reload ) and your time is largely effected by whether your reloads are smooth or not and whether you have any misses The having to think is really curtailed by "knowing how to play the game" . Now there are a few ways to make it difficult again... You can make them shoot it starting with #6 and working backwards, or you can make them change the #of rounds in the magazines and instead of loading them 7 , 7, 7 you load them 6 , 7 , 8 or any other combo of such. Since this was an Instructor level event and everyone there has probably shot it more than once in the past (and some probably practiced shooting it leading up to that weekend) Tom had us shoot it COLD (first thing at 8AM Sunday morning with NO WARMUP) and load mags with 6 , 7, and 8 rounds and then mix up the magazines so that we did not know which was in the gun and which were in which mag pouch. This brought the "randomness" of where to reload and kept you from just racing to the predetermined reload positions without having to involve any mental effort on WHEN to reload and how many more shots were needed on that particular target after the reload. As John Hearne mentioned... Once the reloads became random there wasn't anyone turning in anything close to a 10 or 11 second time. (Incidentally the record for the Casino Drill is something like 10.33 ) . So there it is . It was shot cold - no warmup- 1st thing in the morning . We loaded magazines with 6 , 7 and 8 rounds, mixed up the mags so we wouldn't know which were in the gun and how many rounds were in which mag in which pouch and we shot it 1-6 on the numbered shapes.

TN / GA / AL Training Group! On Saturday JUNE 26 we will hold a meeting of the TN/GA/AL Training Group in the Chattanooga Area ! Subject: My First Knife Fight ! Instructor: Randy Harris Randy's Bio Location: Ooltewah United Methodist Church Gym 6131 Relocation Way Ooltewah, TN 37363 Time: 9AM EASTERN time - 3PM EASTERN time Price: $80 - pay at class by cash or check or Electronic payment by paypal or venmo. Paypal- cruelhandluke2000@yahoo.com Venmo - www.venmo.com/Randy-Harris-47 What You Need to Bring: NOK trainer knife. I have several NOK Trainer loaners. You will also need eye protection. Shooting glasses are fine. Also a good idea is to get 2 "thigh wraps" or "back wraps" from Walmart to use as cheap forearm guards. They are not mandatory but they are a really good idea as they will save you a lot of forearm soreness later. Snacks and drinks. NO AMMO is needed so there's no ammo expense, so all you need is a NOK training knife (loaners are available) eye pro and back wrap . If you want to purchase your own NOK trainer you can get them here...https://shivworkspg.com/product/nok-training-knives/ get the "Hummingbird" they are about $25 and delivery is fast...maybe 2 or 3 days. The primary skills we work on will be empty hand vs knife - keeping the bad guys from turning us into a pin cushion - accessing our own tools (knife ?, gun?, sap?, blackjack?, hand grenade?) and then using it to keep your attacker at bay. As far as footwear goes it is a basketball floor so no boots please. Just regular tennis shoes .!!!! IMPORTANT LUNCH INFO Last time we decided to go straight through instead of stopping for lunch. We then did a long and LEASURELY lunch afterwards at a local restaurant. So I'm going to suggest we eat afterwards. Just bring something to snack on and we will take a 30 min break to eat and rest during the normal lunch time. Hope to see you there !

Casino Drill Coin

Casino Drill Coin Presentation

Casino Drill at the Rangemaster Instructor Reunion in Athens Ga 6/13/21 20210613_082108.mp4

I find carrying about 2 o'clock to be the most comfortable of the IWB positions for me. It is still fast ( legit sub 1 second draw to first shot from concealment on a timer ) as AIWB but more comfy for me. I carry a G34 or a G17 that way in a holster with the FBI cant. So essentially take your holster that you would be wearing at the 4 o'clock position and move it forward so that the barrel of the gun goes right under the watch pocket of your jeans. The grip then kind of disappears into you. Here's a pic of me (black shirt) carrying an RMR equipped G17 at 2 o'clock, clinch pick knife at 11:30 o'clock and spare 24rd G17 mag IWB at 11 o'clock ...

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On June 5th some members the TN/GA/AL training group did a private class at Ronnie Dodd's range in Sale Creek TN ( https://doddtraining.com/) and spent the day shooting the Rogers Reactive Target Range. Some of you may be familiar with the Rogers Shooting School. Ronnie was the chief instructor at Rogers for 15 years and he has two bays (and soon to be three) of the Rogers Reactive Targets at his range in Sale Creek. I took the class in 2015 and got an Advanced Ranking and use some of their methodologies in my own classes (http://harriscombative.com) . We have known each other for over 20 years so Ronnie and I conspired to put together a private class for the TN/GA/AL Training Group so that they could experience the Rogers system without having to sign up for the full class , and so that they'd have a better feel for why I recommend it so highly. This was a chance for my training group guys (and gals) to learn first hand about "Reactive Shooting" where you have a minimal amount of time to shoot a target that will appear and then disappear. Just like in a real life, you won't have all the time you want, just the time that is available. Ronnie presented the material just as he would in a full blown class and I assisted by shooting demos for the drills and providing coaching to the shooters. They essentially shot about 80% of Day 1 of the Rogers Reactive class. It was both challenging and fun and as one member said.... "Everyone had both victories and defeats without it being soul crushing ...and it was a lot of fun, plus we didn't have to pay for the full class to get a taste of what it is all about....I'm looking forward to signing up for the full class sometime now." A couple of the participants are TGO regulars and hopefully they will pop in and comment. The Range....

Right now looks like maybe 6 OR 7 students.

This one is coming up THIS SUNDAY !!!

Rangemaster Core Skills Test shot today 5/6/21 Target points 198 / 200 total time 27.64 seconds for a total score of 143.26 (Score is derived from points divided by time x 20 ) 80 - 100 = Very Good / 100 -124 = Advanced / 125+ = Master

Five Yard Roundup shot cold (first thing I shot- no warmup) Today 5/6/21 . Score was 98 / 100 Five Yard Roundup is shot from 5 yards and is 4 strings of fire. #1 From concealment 1 round #2 From Ready 4 rounds #3 From Ready 3 rounds Strong Hand Only #4 From Ready 2 rounds Weak Hand Only Par time for each string is 2.5 Seconds. Pass or Fail on the time and then calculate the score on the target.

This one is coming up in 10 days !!! For those who need ammo for class I will have some 38special available. So if your reason for not taking the class is lack of ammo availability then get signed up because you will have ammo .

Ammo simply equals opportunity. If you only have 5 rounds then you only have 5 opportunities to change the behavior of how ever many persons that need their behavior changed. Also pistols are simply harder to shoot accurately under stress than rifles or shotguns. Assuming that we might degrade 25% under extreme stress (some way more and some way less dependent upon recent relevant training and level they have internalized that training ) then we may not have 5 HITS to distribute among the bad guys. So it is pretty imperative that if we are going to roll with a limited capacity gun then our skill needs to make up for the deficiency in capacity. Especially when the trends are toward about half the time there being more than 1 bad guy. And a revolver reload is not something we often see happen in close range gunfights. Typically it is over one way or the other with what is in the first cylinder (or magazine of an auto pistol) ....that means you are most likely going to win or lose with what is in the gun. I'd simply prefer to have more opportunities in the gun than less and a 10 -15 opportunity pistol gives more chances of stopping someone than a 5 or 6 shot pistol. Math is math and it does not take the day off. AJ mentioned Tom Givens. When Tom and I met back in Jan 2006 he was still carrying a 1911 and 2 spare mags. By Jan 2007 he had switched to a Glock 35 and 2 spare mags. I asked him why he gave up the old technology and he said that he was about 97% as good with the G35 as he was with the 1911 and that the 1911 was a "2 person gun" where as the G35 was a "3 person gun" and with the crime data in Memphis showing about 3 multiple assailant aggravated assaults per day he felt better with more bullets than less bullets. As for me all that time I was rolling with a G34 with 20 in the gun and a spare 19rd mag. I kidded Tom that it was really me that had pushed him over the edge to the dark side and the G35. So what does all this mean? Whatever you want it to. I have no ego investment in what anyone carries. But simply put more ammo means more chances to change behavior and less time reloading. Having to reload mid gunfight suck and having to do it one handed because you are injured sucks even more. So I prefer to have enough on board capacity in the gun to solve most problems short of alien invasion or zombie apocalypse without having to reload. But then I'm more concerned with the folks that don't choose to stop than I am with the "statistical average".

This one is coming up in just a couple of weeks !

If you like historical stuff there is the "Historic district" with its cobblestone streets and houses dating to the 1700s. The Castillo De San Marcos is the fort erected in the late 1600s to defend the bay against English privateers. The Pirate and Treasure Museum has some cool exhibits. The Bull and Crown Pub (English pub) and the Taberna del Caballo (Spanish tavern) have great ambiance. The Columbia Restaurant is fabulous . Then there is the Fountain of Youth and the living history exhibits there. The wife and I love St Augustine.

OK . If the frames and grips are EXACTLY the same then it is probably not the hand to gun fit. So try gripping harder with your support hand . The recoil impulse is going to seek the path of least resistance and if you are not gripping the right side of the gun with enough force the gun can move that way as soon as the primer ignites. So try applying more grip with the right hand and report back to us.

The width of the grip of the pistol and where the trigger finger is in relation to the trigger and the grip can effect things too. I'm guessing your 22 has a pretty thin grip. But if your " harder recoiling handgun" is a double stack gun like a Sig 226 or a Glock 17 (or even worse a Glock 21) it could be a combination of the way your hand fits the grip combined with trigger finger placement. I'd really need to see all the variables at play to make a proper diagnosis.