billyblazes

I will respectfully disagree. On the one hand, if there’s no written law or ordinance prohibiting such, it’s not against the law. On the other hand, a patchwork of laws from one municipality to the other as they fill voids which the State has not addressed is nothing but a hodgepodge of regulation waiting to trip someone up and allowing multiple fiefdoms within the State. I wouldn’t think preemption in this area of firearms would be a concern in Tennessee. I thought Tennessee had a strong gun rights climate, even among the State level politicians. The fact that a gun can be legally safely discharged for target practice or similar recreation on a 1/4 acre or smaller city lot in the heart of busy Orlando or in congested Miami but at the same cannot be done in certain municipalities in Tennessee just blows me away.

The address change form, ATF Form 20, generally comes back within a few weeks. It's really not a big deal. The fact that the rules for discharge of firearms in Tennessee differs from municipality to municipality points to the need for preemption at the State level in this regard.

Took me a while to find it, but straight from BATF. Last page sums it up. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/ruling/2011-4-pistols-configured-rifles-rifles-configured-pistols/download

I found plenty of posts on various other forums agreeing with what I wrote, but figuring you would want something with a little more authority than another Internet forum lawyer, perhaps this will fit the bill... The last sentence makes the point. “Can I travel both within my state and across sate lines with my SBR? You are free to travel with your SBR within the same state as you reside. When traveling out of state first and foremost understand the laws of the state you are traveling. If local state residents can not posses a SBR then you as a visitor can not either. Before traveling across state lines with your SBR you need to submit a Form 5320.20 to the ATF and wait for approval. This form does not cost anything, but takes 4-8 weeks to get back approved so plan accordingly. Another option is temporally return the firearm to the title I configuration and then you can freely travel across state lines (again know local state laws for title 1 firearms).” That quote is from https://www.rainierarms.com/blog/atf-form-1-creating-or-manufacturing-your-own-sbr-faq/

Although I'm of the mindset that it's better to be legally safe rather than legally sorry, as someone who owns and travels with NFA items I can say from experience a registered and taxed SBR is considered such only when in title 2 configuration. In title one configuration it is considered just as such. As an example, my AR-15 SBR is considered a rifle. If I remove the rifle stock and install a recognized pistol brace, keeping in mind LOP requirements, and remove the VFG, now in that configuration it is just a pistol. Likewise with my Mossberg Shockwave. With the birds head grip in place it's a "firearm." Once I received the tax stamp and I then installed a shotgun stock it became a legal SBS. If I want to sell either of those items I can configure them as title 1 firearms, write to BATF for them to be removed from the registry, and then sell them without someone waiting to acquire their own tax stamp.

Did you read how removing the cameras worked out for the gentleman profiled in the article?

YES!!!!! If with the stroke of a pen bump stocks could be outlawed, certainly the HPA could be written into law/executive action

No reason the State, under preemption if it existed, could not put forth a law that reads: ”Discharging firearm in public or on residential property. (4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply: (b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or (c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.” With regard to your statement about what’s “reasonable” such a statute would limit the confusion of moving from one area of the State to another, inside of city limits or outside of those city limits.

However I read often of people asking "Can I shoot on my property in Wherever, TN?" Then I read the replies of "Not if you're in city limits." Or "Go speak with the local Sheriff's office." This tells me municipalities are writing laws effecting firearms. I also recall reading Knoxville making firearms prohibited in certain buildings and venues. This seems to be legislation at a local level going above & beyond what the State has legislated.

“Then we just need someone willing to potentially sacrifice their freedom and take the BATFE to court over the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act and get us a legal precedent for it and we’d be sitting pretty good IMO“ I’d be concerned how the current SCOTUS may rule on that. Roberts has been flakey.

I’m more than a little concerned with how the larger cities of Nashville and Knoxville are leaning more and more left. Maybe Chattanooga, too? I’m thinking liberal anti-gun policies are getting too much of a foothold due to the blue influx.

Hell yeah! Especially NFA at the Federal level.

As the title asks, what is on your legislative wish list? For me, I think top of my list is preemption. I would like to see the State be the sole legislative authority for the State so as to prevent municipalities from making their own laws. That would apply to everything from prohibited locations to what is allowed for a private recreational shooting range.

From an officer I personally know, while he was working undercover he deployed his .380 with hollow points to shoot at a perp through a windshield. I do not remember the flavor of the ammunition. The rounds lodged in the windshield without fully penetrating. We later got a cracked windshield from Safelite Auto Glass to run our own tests. Although various hollow points had variable results with penetration, some going through the windshield from roughly 3-7 yards and others not penetrating, even in some cases rounds from the same box of ammo, ALL of the ball ammo penetrated the laminated glass and burst the plastic jug of water placed behind the glass. We also had some fun that day testing various rounds of ammunition on ballistic drywall we had gotten a scrap piece of from the construction of the local VA hospital. That ballistic drywall is amazing stuff. I'm not sure what it says though for the amount of money spent to do the entire lobby of the VA center with that drywall, yet I digress...

I read you're from Ft. Pierce...small world. I hope to escape from the Treasure Coast and join you up there in another 2.5 years. It'll certainly take me some time to get used to the differences regarding gun laws in TN versus FL. Some of those differences I feel are good, some not so much.

Welcome. I'm envious. I thoroughly enjoy hiking to see the waterfalls and other beautiful sights on the Cumberland Plateau. I've spent a fair amount of time in Spencer. I'm hoping to end up in Van Buren County or someplace close in another 2 years 5 months and 26 days.

I'm running a Vortex Venom 6 moa dot on my Tavor TS12 shotgun. I do not use the gun for hunting but that dot has worked well for CQB drills. I'm thinking a moderator may want to move this thread to the Long Gun section or the Gear & Accessories section.

I regularly shoot my Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor out to 1250 yards. When I purchased the first gen platform I was able to get it (two of them) for $900. They've come up in price since then but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more economical platform to get started with. $800 for a Burris XTR II 4-20x50 optic. Another $60 for the rings. $300 for an Atlas bi-pod. That's my platform. In addition I have the SiCo Omega suppressor, a rear bag, and I'm good with match grade Hornady or Winchester ammo. I also have a Sig 716 in .308 but I prefer the 6.5 Creedmoor RPR bolt gun. I'm hearing Savage is making a quality economical platform, but I have no first hand experience behind the gun.

I have a Gen 1 716 DMR. I like it very much. Especially the 4 settings for the gas piston, something that went to 2 settings (I think) on the second generation platform. I believe the first generation also has a barrel a couple of inches longer than the gen 2 model. Before getting this 716 I had cut my teeth on various AR-10 platforms trying to find a reliable host for my suppressor. Rock River Arms LAR was no good for me. The Adams Arms .308 had troubles. DPMS Super SASS was also far from flawless when suppressed. Although I cannot say that the 716 has not been 100% flawless suppressed, it has been darn close. I take it out to 600 yards regularly and 850 yards occasionally. It is a heavy beast. I always use if from a bench or prone. I can't imagine toting this gun around for long on a sling and shooting for long unsupported standing.

I've been a member for many years. I hope I never need their services though.

What did it run you to have the slide milled out? Anyone in particular you recommend to do the work?

Thank you for the suggestions and direction. I’m just starting to research my options. The Holosun HS407A3 caught my interest due to price point and the shake awake feature. I don’t want something like the Vortex Venom which requires it to be manually turned on through pressing a button.

I may very well do that. I was asking about the red dot optic simply because that will perhaps drive the next purchase choice as to whether or not to get a MOS model.

I have no experience with a red dot sight on a handgun. Can the sight be zeroed so as to have the dot elevated enough to work with a suppressor on the gun, in lieu of installing suppressor sights? Would it be manufacturer/sight specific?

I can relate on many of your points. I've been in Central East Coast Florida for the past 35 years. 2.75 years more than I can retire without penalty. I'm anxious to get up to the Cumberland Plateau area for good. Like you, I consider myself an introvert. I just want to be in the middle of nowhere, but with a few modern conveniences, and left alone. My work and hobbies often take me to South Florida. Often to Palm Beach County. A lot in Broward County. Davie in particular. Occasionally to Miami and Coral Gables. I feel like an outsider down there. I definitely do not speak the language down there. Not any of them. Interesting that my firearms insurance through East Coast Collectibles just barely covers my area. They told me that if I lived just a few miles south in St. Lucie County rather than Indian River County they would not cover me. When I asked why they simply told me "demographics and crime." They say it has been moving north for years and it's only a matter of time until they won't cover my zip code, too. I'm envious that you've been enjoying Tennessee for the past 12 years. I look forward to being there also sooner than later. Maybe we'll cross paths at a gun range or while enjoying a fermented beverage.