mcurrier

well...alrighty then...

[quote name='gregintenn' timestamp='1353019952' post='846218'] I remember the world was going to end new year's 2000, when Bush was elected, etc. It isn't good, but this too will pass. [/quote] LOL. You're house can get termites and that will pass too. You won't have a house left if you do nothing, but, hey...it [i]will[/i] pass. Interestingly, I keep reading letters and emails from people who escaped [u]to[/u] the United States from countries like Cuba, Russia, Poland, Nazi Germany, etc. They say that what they see going on scares them to death and mirrors what went on in those countries when people were saying that it was no big deal. Those of us old enough to have lived history remember what happened, unlike many who can only read whitewashed versions of history. I fear for my country, but I guess I can know that I lived during the pinnacle of the United States and was personally there to witness her greatness. Glad I'm not very young and have to live 60-80 more years if people think everything will just fix itself. Have fun with that. I often fantasize what it would be like if you had a time machine and could go back to 1938 and warn people about Hitler, or any other pre-war era. I always come to the same conclusion that it wouldn't work. People back then tried to warn others, they were laughed to scorn, so why would they listen to the guy with the time machine? They wouldn't.

Is that on the 11th (last Sunday), or on the 18th (this coming Sunday - 3 days from now) ?

[quote name='leroy' timestamp='1353002891' post='846116'] 6.8 makes several good points in his post above (...#72..) here. My take on all this is that im a relatively old coot (...66...) and ive never seen as much divisiveness (...other than the vietnam thing...) and grousing about the sorryness of government than ive been hearing and seeing for the last four years. This current crop of idiots has managed to drive the wedge deeper and drag the issues further down the road quicker with their high handed tactics than ive ever seen before. They have re-opened wounds between the government, the people, and the individual states that were inflicted via the bayonet in the post civil war period. They shouldn't have done that. When these issues are re-visited; i predict that there will not be enough carpetbaggers and thugs to enforce much of what they dream of doing. Further, they dont have an army of occupation to enforce this stuff. I predict (...and sincerely hope and pray...) they will loose bad in court. Otherwise, there could be some trouble. When you have otherwise solid citizens talking succession and have third partys like the Tea Party(s) in various states talkin about the things they are talkin about; with bad words dricted toward both political parties and the government; those in those parties and the political operatives need to be concerned. RE: Violence directed toward those in government. The nobama regieme and its operatives dont need to worry about violent harm comming from the "Rs" and the various freedom loving groups. For the most part, those groups are law abiding citizens who work for a living, and are genuinely concerned about the direction the country is being taken in. The politicos need to be worried about their far left socialist bastard brothers and commie philistine harlot sisters who dont think that they are doin enough to bring the beautiful utopian socialist paradise to the good ole usa. Remember, Jared Loughner aint a right wing nut; he is a left wing nut. leroy [/quote] Exactly. I see any civil "unrest" in the likes of what is going on in Greece. It will occur when the economy completely melts down and the takers march out to "take" because they have not provided for themselves and the workers who have been providing for both themselves and for the takers simply can not continue to do it any longer. Virtually all of what I am reading and hearing of working people arming up is in anticipation of defense of themselves and their families pending any meltdown of the economy and impending lawlessness by takers who come out of their rat holes to take what the workers and actual contributors have left. That is all. As in this quote from an article titled - [b] Are Americans Preparing for a Revolution?[/b] "[color=#000000][font=Georgia, Palatino,]So why are so many people buying so many guns? Some say they are buying them now before the government forbids anymore sales. Yet others are saying that they are stocking up on weapons, ammunition and food in preparation of America’s collapse."[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Georgia, Palatino,]"I heard from one person who said they believe that America will fall under Obama and the country will go into complete chaos. Food and supplies will become scarce causing millions to riot and loot and steal from others. He said that he intends on protecting his family, his house and supplies from any and all intruders."[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Georgia, Palatino,]Read more: [url="http://godfatherpolitics.com/8056/are-americans-preparing-for-a-revolution/#ixzz2CKEfFDP3"]http://godfatherpoli.../#ixzz2CKEfFDP3[/url][/font][/color] [color=#000000]That man is NOT planning civil unrest, but planning on protecting himself and his family [i]from[/i] civil unrest (which is the point I've been trying to make on here for several days).[/color]

These things look AWESOME! [size=5][b] [background=transparent]Cammo Brothers Combat Ready Mag Loaders[/background][/b][/size] [url="http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/311008179/Combat+Ready+Knives+.223+Magazine+Loader"]http://www.budsgunsh...Magazine Loader[/url] [size=1][background=transparent][/background][/size]

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1352894286' post='845367']voted themselves a pay raise and free healthcare, with the rest of us paying for it. [/quote] Congress does that for themselves all the time!

[quote name='Glenn' timestamp='1352892599' post='845361'] While Obama seems to be the master of bad policy, he certainly didn't invent it. [/quote] Nope. Just perfected it.

The military has already received the biggest middle finger that is available. [img]http://www.gopusa.com/cartoons/files/2012/11/mr500_121114.jpg[/img]

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1352892641' post='845362'] Terrorists and traitors don’t get to be Republicans or Democrats; they are just terrorists and traitors. But most of the nut cases I see talking about taking up arms against other Americans claim to either be Republicans or some lame azz 3rd party. [/quote] Not seeing that, and not sure where you are seeing it. I don't see any Republicans talking about taking up arms against other Americans or against the Fed. Govt. I have seen a few people of whatever affiliation mention [i]defending[/i] themselves against attack if a revolt staged by the govt. teet takers were to occur, but none about anyone calling for or initiating armed revolt, certainly not by any Republicans.

[quote name='TMF' timestamp='1352847727' post='845057'] The answer to that is not to completely throw away our system of government, revolt and prop up an illegitimate power. [/quote]Not directing this at you, TMF, but to everyone in general... I have not seen one person on TGO advocating this. Or anyone else for that matter. The secession thing, if people want to go there in argument, will not happen, and is more of a symbolic gesture, so that is not a threat of revolt. Besides, there is a method of secession mentioned in the Constitution, so it's not that far out there, but it won't happen either way.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352852032' post='845090'] I'm not attempting to carry water, blow or piss in the wind. Republicans or democrats, whoever wants to raise hell because they do not get their way is just being childish. Stupidity has no party or color. [/quote]You have been implying that Republicans are wanting to "raise hell", but that is just not the case, there is not one shred of evidence pointing to that, it just doesn't exist. Trying to lump Republicans in with the like of Democrats who have actually called for violence just doesn't work. If you are going to defend the USA and the Constitution as you stated in the opening post, I can tell you now that you won't be defending them from Republicans.

[quote name='Glenn' timestamp='1352858814' post='845163'] Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers . [/quote]They have a t-shirt for that - [img]http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3200/90c91/products/2018/images/4191/LIBERALISM_SHIRT_FRONT__59757.1344516977.1280.1280.jpg[/img]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1352842054' post='845009'] It's a long read, but it might be educational to some around here. [url="http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf"]http://www.stephenha...cle-nazilaw.pdf[/url] History does tend to repeat itself. [/quote] Yet many will say, "it can never happen..."

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1352846471' post='845051'] None, but if you're going to claim this isn't a knee-jerk reaction to losing last week, you're going to have to come up with something. If it's not election butt-hurt and it's not legislation, then what is it? ETA: Y'all have fun with it, but unless / until you're willing to admit this is just a reaction to losing the election, most folks are just going to ignore it. If you really want change, you're going to have to be able to present something other than 'sore loser' as your reasoning. I'm out. [/quote] It is called [i]foresight[/i] of where this country is going, how far it's going to go, and how fast we arrive at the point of no return. We are already approaching alarmingly fast. Now, in a second so-called "lame-duck" term, the brakes have been removed from the vehicle and the accelerator jammed down at full throttle with a broom stick. This foresight is not based on a guess, or upon 'fear', it is based upon experience and the record of the driver for the past four years who is inebriated and out of control, yet no one will issue him a D.U.I. The driver got behind the wheel without any prior driving experience. Many tried to warn that this job was not conducive to on-the-job training.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352840624' post='844987'] I not choosing sides. The actions that have been mentioned would be just as stupid if Obama and his crew were the ones threatening them. [/quote] Then you [i]are[/i] saying that Republicans/Conservatives/TEA Partyists are the ones making such claims and threats as you perceive it. I would like to see where that is occurring. Au contraire my friend, but it was, and still is, liberals and blacks making serious and [url="http://twitchy.com/2012/11/02/as-election-day-nears-obama-supporters-step-up-riot-threats/"]well documented[/url] threats of riots, assassinations and other mayhem if Romney were to win and 0bama were to lose. They [url="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/multiple-twitter-users-threaten-to-assassinate-mitt-romney-shoot-him-dead/"]publicly posted[/url] these on Twitter and Facebook and other social media. I see NO SUCH THREATS from Republicans/Conservatives/TEA Partyists, nor have any riots taken place, nor any other mayhem. If you are basing your sole argument on symbolic petitions of secession, your blowing in the wind. The so-called victorious party is the violent and divisive one. Your argument holds no water. [b] Thousands Of Shocking Threats Of Violence By Obama Supporters On The Eve Of The Election[/b] http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/thousands-of-shocking-threats-of-violence-by-obama-supporters-on-the-eve-of-the-election (article was originally on MensNewsDaily.com but has now been scrubbed from the web)

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1352836799' post='844935'] Liberals believe that the end justifies the means. They have proven this time and time again. So why would we think they would not try to keep Obama in office through nefarious methods? [/quote] Not just proven it, but said as much. And...stated their admiration and affection for people like Trotsky, Marx, Castro, etc.

[quote name='TripleDigitRide' timestamp='1352839149' post='844968'] If this country wasn't so uptight about sex, this affair would be a non-issue. It's a shame this man's career is going to end because of some side tail. Lighten up, America! [/quote] Sex is not even the real issue or point. The media said about Bill Clinton, the highest military commander (in-chief!), that what a man does with his penis is his business as long as it's consensual. I thought all of that was a settled issue?!?!

[b] [size=4]A petition against the signers of the petitions for secession. Which group sounds more petty of the two?[/size][/b] [b] Libs Want To Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them[/b] https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone-who-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-them/ZbMjcwPf As I recall, Streisand and others promised to leave the U.S. if Bush won. Still waiting for her to leave. Lefty libs want their cake and eat it also.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352838328' post='844960']If we are already screwed, I see no reason why we can't try to rectify the situation in four years instead of talking about taking actions that would put us in a bigger stinking mess than we are already in and certainly last more than four years with greater repercussions.[/quote] I agree on trying to rectify things in 2 and in 4 years at the next cycle of elections. Hopefully we will have them. If so, we will attempt to change things again. That's what we mature and reasonable people do. [quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352839063' post='844964'] Well put. I agree that the government lost it's way long ago. I am not a fan of our government in it's current form, but I still hold out hope that it can be changed in a peaceful manner. [/quote] I am willing to wait the 4 years and give it a try. We will see if they (govt.) are willing to wait. If they make a move first, it will be on them.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352830299' post='844880'] Obamas admistration is bad. Worth civil unrest? No! [/quote] Not sure where you're coming from, I can only infer which group you are attempting to speak to, but... if Romney had won there would have already been riots in the streets, looting, violence perpetrated on caucasians and more. Already. It would be past tense or still be ongoing. Since 0bama "won", things are relatively calm and peaceful. That's because the group that "lost" is the more mature, reasonable, cautious group, the group that acts with honor and abides by the law, regardless of the circumstances. So I'm not sure which group you are saying that are "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wanting to destroy OUR country because you didn't get your way in a election is STUPID!" I don't hear anyone talking about that. The side that "won" will do a plenty good job of destroying the country as it is.[/font][/color]

[b] FBI Suppressed Petraeus Scandal to Protect President[/b] http://conservativebyte.com/2012/11/fbi-suppressed-petraeus-scandal-to-protect-president/ http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/petraeus-affair-fbi-investigation/2012/11/11/id/463697

[img]http://cdn.conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Stupid.jpg[/img] [img]http://politichicks.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/myans-300x300.jpg[/img]

[img]http://cdn.conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Stupid.jpg[/img] [img]http://politichicks.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/myans-300x300.jpg[/img]

[img]http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3200/90c91/products/2018/images/4191/LIBERALISM_SHIRT_FRONT__59757.1344516977.1280.1280.jpg[/img]-

[img]http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server3200/90c91/products/2018/images/4191/LIBERALISM_SHIRT_FRONT__59757.1344516977.1280.1280.jpg[/img]