mcurrier

I carry the PT145. <<<<<<< see pic at left

When I was a LEO back in the early 80's, we only had three precincts in Virginia Beach. We used to say, "meet me at the 4th Precinct", meaning Dunkin' Donuts. Kinda like the "19th hole". They ended up getting a fourth precinct just before 1990. Then we had to meet at the "fifth" precinct.

Dude, you got screwed! I'll give you $25 for all that stuff. Tell you what...I'll even drive out there, pick it up, AND take you to lunch.

Same here, on both counts.

It passed today. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/national-politics-legislation/21548-national-park-carry-passes.html

cooooooool. I want to try that!

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/national-politics-legislation/21543-credit-card-bill-forces-dems-take-vote-gun-rights.html#post281270 Obammy will sign on Friday.

And it passes and Obammy will sign it on Friday. Congress Approves Bill Restricting Credit Card Industry, Allowing Guns in Parks - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com I also agree with Truthsayer, I've never understood this b.s. of attaching something to a bill that has no relation whatsoever to it in any way. Vote on one bill at a time. One topic at a time. Alexander proves himself to be once again. We need to start grooming someone to replace that idiot. Alexander! You reading this? You'd better be.

Credit Card Bill Forces Dems to Take Vote on Gun Rights The Democrat-led Congress is intent on sending to President Obama's desk legislation that would impose sweeping restrictions on credit card companies in the name of consumer protection. But to do so without further delay, lawmakers have to take a vote against gun control. Credit Card Bill Forces Dems to Take Vote on Gun Rights - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com "But navigating around a gun amendment takes delicate legislative maneuvering, and anti-gun Democrats will have a chance to go on record against the amendment without torpedoing the overall bill. That's because the House will hold two votes: one for the credit card end of things, one for the firearms portion. This gives anti-gun members political cover by allowing them to vote against the guns amendment and then for the credit card bill. But the Coburn amendment showed that a surprising number of Democrats -- 27 on the Senate side -- are willing to back legislation expanding gun rights. Among those who voted "yes" was Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada..." "Spokesman Jim Manley said Reid is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, adding that the guns in parks issue was a major concern for many Nevadans."

They obviously don't know that you carry.

Interstate 90 closed for the next 2 weeks. News flash...... This just came across the wire ! ! ! Interstate 90 will be closed for the next 2 weeks to facilitate the delivery of a 200 ton chunk of coal to Mt. Rushmore.

I've had it with Alexander. It's time to send that pile home.

Served. Mapco and Kroger sell, but don't serve. O'Charley's and The Palm serve.

Let me demonstrate -

It's the only way to be sure.

Hey, no offense meant to anyone. Yes, we all can agree that the right person was not hired for the job, that's for darn sure. Hopefully someone can get him weened before he totally destroys this country.

That's the problem. He only has a little nerve.

Alex, I'm going to go with Race and Citizenship for $200.

True. However, having attended an actual school of law, my sarcastic comment in regard to the last three legal opinions was more in jest, but my dry sense of humor is often not perceived. I can say emphatically that only one of them was 100% correct, one 99% correct, the other one flat out incorrect. rab1961 - the issue is whether he is an American citizen, being born on American soil could be an element in defining that, but is not the sole definition. The issue is natural vs. naturalized vs. just plain illegal alien. slothful1 - is also correct, however I have seen and heard things that make me think that he wasn't born in Hawaii as claimed. Nevertheless, I don't think anyone will/can ever do anything about it, SCOTUS doesn't seem to care, and everyone is afraid it would bring a civil war. I say bring out the truth no matter what, but that's just me. BryanP - BryanP is correct in that one need not be born on American soil within the continental United States, Hawaii, Alaska or one of the many U.S. Territories. Also included as being U.S. soil would be any of the many military bases around the world (where John McCain was born to active duty parents) and any U.S. Consulates and Embassies. Regardless of those, any U.S. citizen female who gives birth while abroad gives birth to a U.S. Citizen, unless she has renounced her citizenship. If my already American-citizen wife and I are in Paris on vacation and she gives birth, our child is a U.S. Citizen, not French. The United States seems to be the only (stupid) country to allow anyone who plops out a kid on our sand to be called an 'american'. No other country would allow this. There are many other variations and complexities based on marriage where only one of the parents is a U.S. Citizen while a child is born outside of the U.S., the combinations are numerous. Obama seems to possibly fit into this category at the very best. At worst, he doesn't even make this one.

I didn't know that we had so many lawyers here. That will come in handy if I ever have to shoot someone.

Googled this and these were the first five links - 50 United States Preambles The Fifty States Reference God in their Constitutions-Truth! Preambles of State Constitutions Christian Connection Network > state preambles State Preambles Do you know the Preamble for your state? . .. The Fifty States Reference God in their Constitutions-Truth! Be sure to read the message at the bottom! Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.. Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land. Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution... Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government... California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom... Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe... Connecticut 1818, Preamble The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy. Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences... Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida , grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution... Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia , relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution... Hawaii 1959, Preamble We , the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution. Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings. Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors. Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government. Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the St ate of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution. Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution. Kentucky 1891, Preamble We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties.. Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy. Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity ... And imploring His aid and direction. Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty... Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction Michigan 1908, Preamble We, the people of the State of Michigan , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution. Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings: Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work. Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution... Montana 1889, Preamble We, the people of Montana , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ... Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish this Constitution. Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution... New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art.. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience. New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors. New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty.. New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings. North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those... North Dakota 1889, Preamble We , the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain... Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common. Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this... Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance.... Rhode Island 1842, Preamble We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing... South Carolina, 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution. South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ... Tennessee 1796, Art. XI..III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience... Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God. Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution. Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man ... Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ... Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility... Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution... After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong! If you found this to be 'Food for thought' send to as many as you think will be enlightened as I hope you were. (Please note that at no time is anyone told that they MUST worship God.)

60.5 yes 39.5 no

So I said to him, "Barack, I know Abe Lincoln, and you ain't no Abe Lincoln" You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. .....Abraham Lincoln