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Its molding flash. The pic really makes it look worse than it is. Worse on that side. One of the downsides to not being $2300. There are a couple other things that showed its lower cost origins. Overall the finish is great. But they drop parts or toss them around in bins. The outer edge of the muzzle crown shows couple mm indents from barrels smacking one another or something. And the rear sight had a ding that rolled into the notch . I called springfield and they sent me a new cover plate so they are good about the service side.

Yesterday I took my 4.25" Prodigy out for the first time to do a limited function test before swapping over to the optic and sighting it in. Wasn't thinking range report having only planned a quick 50 rounds on top of the (very shameful) fact that I haven't fired a pistol since last October. I ended up at 75 rounds and very taken with how it did. The short of it: This gun just plain shoots and as cliche as it is, it makes anyone look good. It ran flawlessly over the rounds fired. I found it well balanced and surprisingly soft shooting. It is beyond easy to shoot, and shoot well. Out of the box, the gun has great fit. There is no perceptible play in the slide to rail fit, the bull barrel lock-up is tight. Even with that, it quite slick. Slowing cycling the slide there are no rough points, consistently smooth all the way to the lock. The trigger. I had the option to handle 3 different Prodigy's the day I bought mine. They had some variation. One in particular had over twice the reset travel of the other 2 and a higher pull weight. It was out. The other 2 were closer. Very similar overall fit and feel, but one had a tick less creep. It was out. On getting home, I dry fired it a bit. If you are being a trigger snob and slowly break the trigger over 2 to 3 seconds, you notice the creep as the sear takes its sweet time riding over what must be some pretty high hammer hooks. Safety first. On my digital (after range), trigger breaks @ 3.5lbs averaged over 6 pulls. In live fire normal trigger use, the creep is not noticeable. Pretty nice for a factory setup. No plans to modify for now. The first 50 rounds were shot a full size steels @ 50 yards. The factory optic cover plate has a higher sight compared to the one on the optic mounting plate. Over the first couple mags I found it shoots relatively high. Ended up finding a hold at the bottom of plate was needed, netting consistently higher torso hits. While I was watching for berm strikes to walk it in, it struck me how little the muzzle was rising and how quickly it dropped back on target though I wasn't necessarily trying. I credit the inherent 1911 goodness, platforms balance, and the modern 2011 grip's improved (for me) ergos. I realize the grip is polarizing for many, but for me the extra girth fit my hands well and I like its more aggressive texture. I plinked the next couple mags at the steels to wrap up. I played around with support hand hold being a new grip for me. Small errors are limited by how controllable this gun is and the amount of feedback it provides. Even with a 5 month break introducing some consistency problems, its was relatively forgiving and gave good repeatability. Felt really happy with how it performed. Got back to my truck, I looked at the board under the backseat. OK, got to do it. I walked my board out to 15 yds. This was my second target that had 13 rounds fired at it. I am pleased how great this gun shoots. It is accurate, beyond my ability. No doubt more skilled practiced hands would give very impressive results. Very curious to see how it does with the optic.

Heads up for anyone heading to a dealer today intent on buying a gun. TICS is hosed. So call ahead Dealers have been getting emails since last night it was spotty. As of 11am fully down. No info as to when or if it’ll be back today at this point.

2A wins anywhere, no matter how brief are good for all gun owners across the US. They affirm the tests and legal standards. In highly oppressive states, they may even be more important given the politics and far outnumbered gun owners are there. Not taking the win in the spirit it was taken under might be a miss on the bigger picture or it's significance. In CA, there were 2 prior runs made at throwing out the roster. Both failed due to the standard at the time. This new CA judgement was fully supported under the new standard set in Bruen. SCOTUS changed the precedent and its opening doors. Interesting side note. A couple years ago Newsom passed a little hedging amendment for the roster in the event guns do get added. For every gun that is added, 3 must be taken off. How is that for transparency!

Exactly right. Then they are certified to the roster. The other piece of ‘all that needs to be done’ that precedes the certification is that the AG and his anti gun admin need to give up and not appeal or fight the ruling. That minor like detail could be a problem.

If a Californian waited for them to be legal before importing they aren’t the problem. But gun grabbers will never concede that the law abiding aren’t the problem with laws only affecting that group, nor that mass murders are insane / mentally ill. Freedom week is the model this current ray of hope will follow unfortunately, though no window will ever be realized this time to allow for importing our outrageously unsafe guns into the state before the stay / holds are put in place. The ruling gave them two weeks to kill it. I did see some CA guys getting excited by the headlines and talking about placing orders like freedom week, but they didn’t actually read the ruling. It drops the BS microstamping, but they still need to get DOJ cert. The safe act and list isn’t dead, it just got more realistic with potential to expand.

There is zero doubt that the AG will be dropping an immediate appeal. They have done this with every win, and continued to escalate until the single judge’s or lower appeals decision could be stayed or reversed. None the less, the wins are still encouraging even if temporary as initially noted. The big difference is there are wins which never happened in years passed. Maybe not a trend, but we have to applaud Judges who appropriately weigh the legal argument. It’s something we need more of. Everywhere!

I like any and every 2A win, even if they are limited or temporary. Judge issues an injunction declaring the dubious parts of the CA Roster unconstitutional. https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/03/20/federal-judge-issues-injunction-against-ca-microstamping-requirement-and-other-aspects-of-unsafe-handguns-act-n68616 What's the roster you ask (short version): 22 years ago the gun grabbers took the long play approach toward a defacto ban by preventing any newly made guns from entering CA by adding unreasonable requirements to be 'safe'. This left only older legacy models 'certified', with them counting on the manufactures sunseting models in-favor of newer 'unsafe' (in the eyes of gun grabbers) designs. They did not count on makers knowing where their bread gets buttered, keeping lines of legacy guns available for sale in CA. One of the reasons why Gen 3 Glocks are still made among other things.

I bought the G33 to pair with a 558 originally but found my eyes don't do holographic sights. Never mounted the optic to its mount much less to a rifle as shown by lack of witness marks. SOLD

hush puppies yes, cornbread not so much I can see one would think it should since hush puppies are kinda fried cornbread balls.

Its great that you gentlemen have such a variety of skills to share. This is one of my favorite posts of all time. The flourless recipes have inspired me to pull out our skillet to see just what trouble I can manage. While I have loved traditional cornbread forever, years ago I found one my wife would eat (she doesn't like traditional) at Trader Joe's. It combined another thing I love, Pumpkin. Hopefully not considered sacrilege since its a squash, it definitely aligns to a dessert option not all would enjoy. I'll give one of the standard flourless' a try first to gauge texture and moisture for additions. LIke I needed an excuse Appreciate the inspiration!

After riding in CA for 35+ years before moving here, I miss that aspect the most. It mitigates traffic, but you nailed the main opposition. You could see the cagers fuming when you looked back in your mirrors at lights, some even yelling at their windshields. The biggest danger I see would be those that had no idea of it becoming legal (if by miracle it passed), then feel its their duty as a traffic vigilante to do something about it. Even in CA you'd get the occasional chucklehead who didn't know who would swerve over at you or jump out of his car to scream at you. Too true. Riders are all stereotyped as 'bikers', no help from the media who likes to propagate the stereotype. I see it very similar to how gun owners are perceived by non gun owning people who are easily made to support anti-gunners. Gun owner and a rider? Man, what bad seeds are we.

I’ll throw in a glock specific thing to look for on top of all the ideas presented related to the mark on your thumb. If you’re gripping high into the tang, it’s possible that the slide is grazing that knuckle as it cycles. A right off passage with Glocks, the infamous Glock bite. Most of the time it’s presents a bit differently, more of a long tear in the skin, but its the right spot and can vary depending on how high into the tang you’re getting and where your hold places the thumb. If you’re borderline high without the skin folding over much, you would get more of a small contact spot like that instead of the larger bite. Glocks don’t have a beaver tail to prevent it, and the rear ledge is easy enough to over ride if you’re choking up trying to control it. Simple to see by using your normal grip and pressure. As you present, see where that knuckle is relative to the plane of the underside of the side. If its close, good bet the slide is giving you a love tap once in a while.

All due respect. Spinning failures into successes is an obvious play to hide impotence resulting from failure to act in a timely manner. Its pointless to ask what possible intel was gleaned when they proved this was not the mission when they destroyed the evidence. They won this game of chicken. Shooting it down after the fact is simply trying to save face. Its the equivalent of throwing up some new gun legislation to appease the massing screaming 'do something' because its the new media darling. As @gregintenn said earlier, the truth will not be had here. Not that a reasonable person could not see what that is

So true! Somewhat lucky in that here the selection is kinda meh, so it’s easy to pass. Like a salad bar Up there, the selection and wanting to make that drive worth it, I should be glad that’s all I ended up. I’d have been in real trouble if they had everything on my short list.

Couple weeks ago I handled a Prodigy @ GT, liked it quite a bit. But none available. Last week a few landed at SMGA, so I treked up there to pick one up. Just the one.... Well, this happened: Its been a minute since I smelled new guns. Still sorting out how this happened.

I really hope you do because that link got me thinking about it too, lol If you happen into a P64 at a reasonable price, you should pick one up as well. I won the Classic condition lottery on a pair I got several years ago, almost new looking. Folks describe the experience well, but I had good results with moving to an 18lb hammer spring and heavier recoil spring, noticeable difference. I pretty much new nothing with that kind of grip would be a 'fun' range toy, bought it as a pocket / center console gun and its great at that. Reminds me a bit of my LC9 ....ish

That is a great one, and it carries that positive messaging about power of love the xmas diehards (see what I did there?) want, but with all the boozing, philandering, etc that keeps the jaded types well entertained. Something for everyone!

The Grinch?

I didn’t see this mentioned, did you check the bill for a change in the kw/hr billing rate or surcharges from prior months to see how much if any of your total increase may be due to raised rates opposed? Or you rule that out seeing just increased useage? That’s a crazy full house! surprised you’d ever find the time to be on the forum.

Welcome back! Hope to hear that lots of positive distractions gets you back to where you want to be

^^^ Sorry about your situation. Pretty much Gun show sounds like your best route. It will give best return on time for money with little more effort than running them to some one what to sell. Like grayfox said, you need to do your homework in pretty much every scenario unless 50 cents on the dollar is ok. Usually those wanting to sell in one lot are either unrealistic or have to be willing to accept greatly reduced value. While many are curious to know what you have in the hopes of finding a gem or some undervalued items, selling anything online is 90% about pictures and curated wording. Huge time suck for what are typically bargain hunters. Exception being things that are rare or in demand, but expect to be asked to sell separately. Good luck

Under or overclocking of barrels is unfortunately not unusual in modern manufacturing. It can be addressed by a warranty, but like I said earlier, Smith does not seem to address it if it still goes bang. But Ruger will. My Single 10 was overclocked and they got it pretty much dead on. Best to avoid them if you are buying at a retail store to avoid the hassle. Online you take your chances. I personally will not buy a revolver online anymore. The build quality just isnt there.

You'll see the SP/P10X vs 686 be at the top of everyone list, subject to individual preferences. The Ruger crowd will talk about how overbuilt and more durable it is overemphasizing ceased up locks on Smiths. The Smith guys will taught smoother actions and feel. End of the day both are good and the detractors have their own reasons for how they see it. I'm sure you plan to get hands on. But dont go in with a preconceived notion based on the interwebs or opinions. First thing I'd say is pick your barrel length based on which you find balances well for you and preferences. IMO barrel length / lug design. Then find the comparable models in that length to see what you think. Both will shoot great, no worries on longevity or accuracy. With regard to S&W. The old timers who bought them when they were pre-lock arent wrong. Any older smith is better than a modern, lock or no. But I personally wouldn't pay the extra premium for the bragging rights of a pre-locker over an older post lock. The lock can easily be removed and blocked. The main downside with modern S&W wheel guns is their build quality is all over the place and they no longer support them to the factory spec. Overclocked barrels and asymmetric forcing cone (or out of spec) gaps happen now more than they use to. They are most likely to tell you to pound sand versus fix it, even with pics of feeler gauges in the gaps. So inspecting long and close is required with them. Ruger has superior CS from my limited experience. I even had one of their gunsmiths call me! I've shot them back to back in my preferred 4" length. I ended up keeping the 686-7. My own subjective reasons, but the main thing was I simply shot it better than the Ruger.