deerslayer

Hmmm...although I spend most of my ammo allowance on 9mm, my first love is bolt action rifles. I spend most of my shooting free time shooting or practicing for IDPA, which is the polar opposite of shooting a bolt action. One is fast and furious and "close enough" is often great if it's quick. The other is slow and precise. IDPA is a blast; rifle shooting is not exactly fun, but highly satisfying on a good day. Good thing I have two trigger fingers.

I know where you're going with this and I basically agree, but technically, a Glock w/one in the pipe is condition 2, because a Glock is not cocked until the trigger is partially pulled. Back in the day, the ATF classified the Glock as a double action for this reason. Otherwise, the Glock probably never would have been imported. Just imagine, had it not been for the ATF, Mars would have at all nothing to bitch about!

.45 will work well, but ammonia in a bottle will be more practical. Save the hand cannon for the two-legged critters.

Hmmm...this is news to me. Why didn't you introduce yourself? I haven't been up there on Tuesday night in a while. That work thing takes up so much free time...

Another "Evan had too much free time" thread. Another job well done. Wish I had your talent.

Reading back through the posts...I don't think it was a "Glockster" who originated the comparison.

Hmmm...Dave Sevigny, Randi Rogers, Massad Ayoob, and Tom Givens all shoot Glocks quite well. At least some Glocks are for serious shooters. My apologies--I didn't mean to knock your Sigma. If you can rip off three quick, accurate shots, then more power to ya. It's all about what YOU shoot the best, not what others say about your preferred gun. Now you know how it feels to be a Glock shooter.

How quickly can you do this?

I didn't mean the gun would malfunction; I meant that it's unlikely someone will have time to fire 10 shots. And as far as 10 hits go, I'm calling "hits" good breadbasket hits--arms, hands, legs, outer perimeter torso shots, headshots not near the eyes, I'm calling "misses." What, you say? Headshots don't always count? See the 1986 Miami massacre. Also, I'll never assume that a painful bullet wound will always stop a pissed off maniac determined to kill me.

good grief.

Assuming you will get to fire 10 times, much less get 10 hits, is probably not realistic.

Only the model 7 will...

An even better bet is to wait a year or two and get the second generation LCP, which will hopefully be free of all the inevitable bugs of the first generation. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think it's wise to run out and get a new design until it's been out a while and is apparently bug-free.

Ghostdog, your attitude sucks--why do you always have to be hatin' on the resident ninja know-it-all? You know Mars is smarter than the rest of us put together! His "professional experience" is an asset to us all, and you should kiss his ass every day, the same way some on this forum do. Now go buy a nice, safe 15 pound double action with a padlock over both manual safeties so you can safely point it at all your friends or squeeze the trigger before it clears your holster.

Anyone who excuses the lousy Sigma trigger as "not an issue" is probably not a very serious shooter.

I think that's just about every company.

I'm a Glock guy, but if you want a SIG, this sounds like a pretty good deal. Make sure to shoot it or one like it first.

Sunburned Glocks? I've heard it all.

When was this?

That's the first time I've ever heard it put that way, and it makes sense. I guess it's no coincidence, then, that I also own a UJM (2000 Kawasaki ZR-7).

Same here--I used to despise Glocks, but I've come around over the past few years. For my purposes, they simply work better than anything else. I'm with ya--no manual safety is an asset for me, but a liability for others. It all depends on what you like. Downside? If you are careless with guns, the Glock is not for you. If you like to pull the trigger before you get it unholstered, go get something with a manual safety and a heavy trigger, perhaps even a Master lock. Also, the sights are an industry worst. I don't care one way or the other, because whatever brand I shoot will have a set of Ameriglo sights on it (narrow tritium front/wide black rear). And when will they ever dovetail the front? As for the "Glock Nation," no group is as irrational and unreasonable as 1911 owners. Their guns jam and they buy new magazines and tinker with their extractors and change recoil springs and curse when they still jam, but then swear that their guns are unbeatable. The Glock and SIG guys just laugh at them.

I don't think he's ever shot with us.

I was 10 down on stage 3 the last time I shot a classifier.

Simple, proven design, ultra reliable, highly accurate, great trigger (light enough to shoot accurately, heavy enough to be safe), lightweight, huge aftermarket. For the price of a decent lunch, a monkey can turn a Glock into a 3 pound trigger target pistol or a 12 pound trigger lawyer-proof service weapon in less than ten minutes. They are definitely not perfect, but I've never shot anything better, and I've shot just about everything. Older Glocks had larger chambers which led to blown up guns, but the newer ones have chamber support that is similar to many current designs.