deerslayer

I don't think there is an amendment that bars people from drunk driving, either. Of course they can still get guns, but I don't think it's a good idea to put the right to own and use a gun on a silver platter for convicted criminals. Why have laws at all if you feel that way? Maybe your family will be their next victim. Sorry, I just don't have sympathy for thugs.

[quote name=crotalus01;515798 Deerslayer - ALL of our Founding Fathers were criminals in the eyes of the British gov't. I do not believe that they intended for even "former" criminals should be denied their 2A rights. Let me clarify my position - if the justice system was truely Just' date=' i.e. criminals served the appropriate amount of time for their crime(s) and were deemed fit to re-enter society, then I believe they should have ALL their rights restored regardless of the nature of their crime. Note that in a truely JUST system murders, rapists and child molesters would be doing a rope dance...[/quote] Felons lose their rights, not only as punishment, but also as a means to protect society from an obviously flawed person when he gets to leave timeout. I have no problem with this. What would a "truly just" system do with one who was convicted of second degree attempted murder? What about robbery? Would these crimes qualify one for the "rope dance?" Would the thug who shot my father have all his rights restored after serving his sentence in this utopia you describe?

So who determines whether a criminal is in danger of "reoffending?" Does the thug who shot my father in his own driveway and was convicted of second degree attempted murder get a gun when he gets out? In his first parole hearing, he swore that he was reformed and that he'd found Jesus. What if some government idiot buys this crap? Are you ok with that? I truly hope anti-2Aers don't read this thread. Some people are bizarre.

So a convicted felon who helped sell heroin should be able to buy and carry a gun? Why do they call you "jughead?"

Right. Those poor drugusers have nothing to do with all the border violence that the demand for drugs is causing. To the OP: I have no sympathy for your friend. He knew the rules, the laws, and the possible consequences. He needs to be a man and face the music. If his judgment was so lousy that it allowed him to use heroine, I don't trust him with a gun in his hands.

Drug abuse is a victimless crime? Ask Deputy Louie Puroll: FOXNews.com - Ariz. Deputy Shot; Illegal Immigrants Suspected Ariz. Deputy Shot; Illegal Immigrants Suspected PHOENIX -- Law officers backed by helicopters hunted gunmen in Arizona's desert early Saturday after a sheriff's deputy was wounded by suspected illegal immigrants believed to be smuggling marijuana, officials said. The violent episode came amid nationwide debate over the state's tough new immigration law. Pinal County Deputy Louie Puroll was patrolling alone Friday afternoon in a rugged area near Interstate 8, about 50 miles south of Phoenix, when he came upon a band of suspected smugglers, authorities said. At least one of five suspects opened fire on the 53-year-old lawman, tearing a chunk of skin from just above his left kidney. The officer was found after a frantic hourlong search, Pinal County sheriff's Lt. Tamatha Villar said. The wound was not serious and Puroll was released Friday night from Casa Grande Regional Medical Center. State and federal law enforcement agencies deployed helicopters and scores of officers to search a 100 square-mile zone near the Interstate and Arizona 84 for the suspects. The Arizona Republic reported officials said more than one of the choppers came under fire during the manhunt. April 29: A a drop house is raided by state and federal agents, yielding nine suspected illegal immigrants, and three suspected human smugglers in Phoenix. The Pinal Sheriff's department told The Associated Press that the hunt into the early morning hours Saturday but no arrests had been made. The shooting was likely to add fuel to an already fiery national debate sparked last week when Gov. Jan Brewer signed a law cracking down on illegal immigration in the state. A backlash over the law has surged with civil rights activists, concerned it will lead to racial profiling, calling for protests and a boycott of the state. The new law's passage came amid increasing anger in Arizona about violence, drug smugglers, illegal immigration drop houses and other problems that some say are caused by poor border security. The issue gained focus a month ago when a southern Arizona rancher was shot and killed by a suspected illegal border crosser. Arizona politicians called Friday's shooting an outrage and urged the federal government to do more to secure the border with Mexico. "Regardless of the outcome of tonight's manhunt and investigation, Arizona is now confronted by some of the most vicious and dangerous narco-terror organizations the world has seen," Brewer said in a statement. Rep. Kirkpatrick, a Democrat whose district includes part of Pinal County, said the violence "should show the rest of the country what we Arizonans have known for too long -- the unsecured border poses a very real and very immediate danger." Puroll, a 15-year department veteran, had been carrying out smuggling interdiction work before finding the bales of marijuana and encountering the five suspected illegal immigrants, two armed with rifles. "He was out on his routine daily patrol in the area when he encountered a load of marijuana out in the desert. He obviously confronted the individuals and took fire," Villar told The AP. The Republic quoted Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu as saying about 30 bullets were fired at the deputy, who returned fire with a semi-automatic rifle and a handgun. The area is a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior. "(Puroll) is a search-and-rescue deputy, so its not uncommon for them to work those areas A) looking for drugs and looking for people who need assistance out there," Villar said.

My wife spent the night at her friend's house near Highland and Summer. She parked her Explorer on the street. She called and said the Explorer got flooded. I'll soon find out if she was exaggerating.

or that Sevigny guy...

Tell you what, Why don't you bring an ESP gun of your choice to an IDPA match and we'll see what you can do against me and my stock Glock 34.

Yep, MSSA. I shoot mostly IDPA there, but have shot USPSA, too. I shoot the once-a-month steel match about every other month. I'm shooting a 3-gun match there this weekend, unless it starts snowing flaming donkey turds. You should get a kick out of this: Now that I'm fooling around with this new EMP I picked up, and am planning to probably move to ESP with a 1911, my Glock 34 is already starting to point high. I though it would take a while before that happened, not only a few days!

And I sometimes wish more folks I compete against would shoot 1911s. That tap-rack-bang routine burns up time.

I find that the majority of 1911 bashers are ex-1911 shooters.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a Baer, but I've never seen a Brown, or Nighthawk that was 100% reliable. I don't recall ever shooting with anyone who had a Baer. All this talk of getting everything situated just so does not speak well of a 1911's ability to be 100% reliable. So far, my 3" EMP is the best-running 1911 I've owned, and that is sad.

Two drinks will easily get most people well over .02 BAC.

Fill up your carry gun with them, then. My Colt 1991A1 was a stock 5" gun. Like CK1, I've seen too many 1911s, whether a plain jane government or a $2500 Wilson, take a dump when somebody shoots the hell out of it. Glocks are simply more reliable--ball, hollow point, or whatever. None of my Glocks have ever blown up. However, FWIW, I'm in the process of breaking in a Springfield EMP, and have been pleasantly surprised--600 flawless rounds so far. If I decide that it's carry-worthy, I'll pick up a Trojan and move to ESP.

Bells and whistles like ambi safeties and beavertail grip safeties should not affect reliability. Super tight match chambers and tight slide-to-frame fit do, though. Earlier this week, a friend commented that he wanted to tighten up the slide-to-frame fit on his RIA. I told him he was nuts--the gun is already plenty accurate. Why not have the best of both worlds? What cracks me up is 1911 diehards who claim that mil-spec 1911s are unbeatable for reliability, then quietly add a disclaimer that they were not designed for hollow points. A gun that can't digest hollow points is nothing more than a safe queen or a competition-only gun in my book.

hollow points, FMJs, cast lead bullets--it didn't care much for any of them. CK1, I agree with everything you observe about 1911s when run hard. I've seen the same thing 1000 times, and 90% of the time, the guns that are pissing off their owners say "Kimber" on the slide. Having said that, it's likely that I'll end up with a 9mm Trojan sooner or later. I just can't leave well enough alone.

I had a Colt 1991A1, which I believe was Mil-Spec, and it left much to be desired in terms of reliability.

+1 Ever considered an IWB holster?

+1 I like outdoor shooting much better than indoor. More freedom to practice what you want, you can shoot 180 degrees, as opposed to all rounds going one direction, different types of targets (steel, etc), cleaner, not as loud, nobody's brass hitting you in the face, no one hassling you about drawing from a holster unless you've taken their tactical pistol ninja level 3 course. After the $400 initiation fee, MSSA is $20/month. You probably can't go to RUSA or Rangemaster twice a month for $20.

Hopefully, you never have to do that in a hurry.

During the four months that it was legal, there's not a doubt in my mind that someone drank and carried. And you're absolutely right, there's nothing to stop them from breaking the law right now. Fortunately, nothing that we know of happened. As for it never happening, I remember Steve McNair getting a weapons violation along with a DUI three or four years ago. Why did he get a weapons violation? He had a gun while drinking. Was he legally drunk? Who cares--the damage was done. Also, you're not from Memphis, so you may not know/remember, but there was a high profile shooting at an East Memphis bar involving an off-duty cop who had been drinking. I don't know if he had a permit, but many cops do. That's beside the point. A guy who was otherwise legal to carry a gun went to a bar and should have stayed home. If he had not been a cop, we would have been crucified to no end in the media. Here's the story: Officer charged in fatal shooting An off-duty Shelby County sheriff's sergeant has been charged with second-degree murder in a shooting early Friday at an East Memphis lounge. Sgt. Chris M. Jones, 39, the son of former Memphis City Council member E.C. Jones, was taken into custody at the scene. The Windjammer restaurant was the scene of a double shooting early this morning. Memphis police responded to the call at the Wind Jammer restaurant, 786 E. Brookhaven, at 12:50 a.m., where they found that two people had been shot. Wind Jammer's disc jockey, Donald Munsey, 42, was taken to the Regional Medical Center at Memphis, where he was pronounced dead, police said. A 22-year-old man remained in critical condition at The Med Friday evening. Police did not identify the second shooting victim. Jones, who was off duty at the time of the shooting, has also been charged with attempted second-degree murder. Police said the shootings stemmed from an argument in the parking lot between Jones and the 22-year-old man. After the pair moved into the restaurant, Munsey attempted to resolve the argument when a physical fight broke out. Jones shot both victims during the altercation, according to police investigators. Reached Friday morning by phone, E.C. Jones said he hadn't been able to talk with his son. "I was advised he'd been involved in an altercation ... why it happened, I don't know." "The Sheriff's Office is conducting an administrative investigation about the circumstances that led to Sgt. Jones' arrest. This has been a tragic event for the victims and their families," Shelby County Sheriff Mark H. Luttrell said in a statement. It's against the law for an off-duty officer to carry a gun into a bar, said Sheriff's Office spokesman Steve Shular, although deputies are allowed to carry their weapons elsewhere while off-duty. Jones, a member of the West Tennessee Drug Task Force, has been employed by the sheriff's department since 1991. He's been involved in a number of traffic stops that led to major drug busts, including one in 2007 that led to the seizure of more than a million dollars worth of marijuana. Jones' most recent performance review, dated June 2007, indicated that he "exceeds department expectations," although he received a written reprimand on April 18 for boxing-in a car during a traffic stop without the proper training. He was counseled to "improve supervisory effectiveness when anticipating and meeting unexpected situations." Earlier in his career, Jones took part in an arrest involving four deputies that led to a $3.5 million settlement against the county. Deputies hog-tied Bertram Brunson after a 1991 arrest on a DUI charge, cutting off oxygen to his brain and causing him to lapse into a coma. The deputies were suspended briefly but returned to active duty later that year. In 1992, a Shelby County grand jury declined to indict them in the incident. The Wind Jammer is on a formerly residential street just off Poplar in the shadow of Clark Tower. A sign on on the lounge informs customers that it's open from "4 p.m. till." - Hank Dudding: 529-2565 - Dakarai Aarons: 529-6515

I recently went through this process and got it resolved without going to court or calling a lawyer. First, try your local police precinct. Gather as much personal info about the checkwriter and the incident as you can and take it to the cops. They will probably have you file a police report and pass it on to the Economic Crimes Bureau, or whatever they call it where you live. ECB had me first send a certified letter to the checkwriter notifying him that he had 10 days to make good on the check before ECB got involved. He ignored it. ECB then paid him a visit and informed him that he had one hour to prove that he had sufficient funds on the date the check was written. If he couldn't he was going to 201. He paid me in cash two hours later.

Anything can happen anywhere, any time, but the Island is relatively safe. Getting to and from the Island, on the other hand...

So many mistakenly think that you can't get a DUI unless you blow a .08. BAC is merely one test that an officer can do. In TN, you can blow a .03 and still go to jail. Two beers will get many to .08, anyway. It doesn't matter if you are drunk or not. Maybe you'll win in court, maybe you won't. The state does not care if someone can handle their alcohol or not. That's where .08 comes in--it's an arbitrary limit for determining when someone is drunk, but officers get LOTS of discretion. Too many people have too lax an attitude when it comes to drinking and driving. I fear that these same people will have the same lax attitude when drinking and carrying. This is why I have no problem with a "no guns in places where you must be 21 to enter" law. If somebody gets a DUI, nobody is going to start a grassroots movement to ban people from driving. If someone with an HCP gets caught drinking and carrying, drunk or not, someone somewhere will use the event as ammunition for the argument that no one should have an HCP. And if an armed HCP holder is considering having a couple drinks while carrying, I don't think they should have one either. I'm not as worried about what they will do as a result of drinking as I am about the consequences of being caught drinking and carrying for non-drinking HCP holders.