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People are getting arrested for online posts that are NOT threats. But they will have their day in court... only after going to jail, being marked as a terrorist, losing their jobs and reputation after cops get to blab to the media that they stopped a massacre, and give a judge enough to worry about to slap an insane bond on that person. Life over. Brandon Wagshol of CT posted an innocuous meme. Tell me what “threat” he made. Only after they busted down his door over a meme and confiscated everything, did they find he ordered some 30 round mags in a state he shouldn’t have them. He’s still locked up. Please provide me what specific threat he made. He’s being held on $250K bond for possession of four 30 round magazines. Still haven’t seen the threat or anything close. People with “Molon Labe” in their sigs have made worse threats than this kid. https://reclaimthenet.org/man-guns-confiscated-arrested-sharing-meme-red-flag-laws/ Spare me the BS that police are “just doing their jobs”. Heard it a thousand times. They insert themselves into situations they were not called to. The boot licking on this forum is ridiculous and it’s tragic how many traitors walk among us pretending to be patriots. Fudds, nothing more.

Law enforcement hasn’t seemed to care about scooping people up and ruining the lives of innocent people for red flag nonsense, real or not. They control the narrative and can label anyone a “domestic terrorist”. I’m not worried about Apaches or an insurgency. I’m worried about what’s already happening to people who post the wrong meme, say the wrong thing online, or just own too many of whatever they want to take.

By the way, all of the "no open carry" is more likely because of this moron's actions... https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html Add CVS, Walgreens, and Wegman's to the "no open carry" list. Open carry= cigarettes. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/business/walgreens-open-carry/index.html

This formula doesn’t seem to go down with age.

Woah, I actually did this and excluding BS blaster 22LR, that’s probably a reasonable amount for my age (35,840 at age 41). Sadly, I’m not reasonable. Not doing this exercise again for the second one. The “minus 1” was funny.

I just said this exact same thing on an Instagram post about this topic. It’s true. Open carry is definitely the new cigarette. Prepare to get unwanted attention open carrying in metro areas.

Never enough ammo. I still have Obama stash. When I moved here, I regrettably had to sell a ton of 5.56 and 9MM that I’ve been trying to replenish. Kroger also just went “no open carry”. Everyone will be hopping on this train while they think they have majority support and it’s popular. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kroger-asks-customers-quit-openly-225634196.html

Noticed the same thing with .223/5.56. Ammo is slightly on the rise. Grabbing a few more cases now.

Beto is crying and dropping F bombs on CNN right now about including a mandatory “buyback” with the AWB he would propose. I don’t recall the government ever owning my guns to “buyback”. All this polarizing rhetoric will only drive more red to the polls. I hope these candidates keep talking about guns until Election Day. It has never served them well. They say they don’t want to take our guns and in the next sentence, they literally say they want confiscation of certain guns. I don’t own any hunting rifles or shotguns, so yes, the government wants to take all of my guns.

This was kind of the point of this thread. Someone mentioned earlier that it’s already too late, but I’m not seeing it. Stocking up on what I need now, especially ammo and mags. Not buying stuff I don’t need like lowers, LPKs, etc, even though those will dry up also. I vividly remember what goes away during panics and am preparing. I also don’t want to ever feel guilty going shooting due to high cost of ammo.

With ATF’s eye on braces, the likely outcome is NFA regulation, which to many would defeat the purpose of a pistol brace. Wouldn’t you have to assume that the natural path would be a grace period and then a required tax stamp if you want to have one on a gun with a barrel less than 16”? Braces would be the last thing I would buy right now. I see them going the way of any other stock. Many of us have affiliations with industry people or folks in the know. I think we all know what is on the menu, but there is no clear path on how it gets done. In order of “lowest hanging fruit”...red flag, universal background checks, braces, body armor, AWB. The only hope for braces is that the original, documented reason they were created was to help a one armed vet shoot an AR. What could have been a valid American Disabilities Act case has been far overshadowed by millions using them for other purposes and just further muddying what a “pistol” is. Toss a mass shooting in the mix and it’s game over.

It's more of an accusation, but yes, absolutely, on both. You outright admitted it on page one. "It doesn't affect me, so I don't care..." I also indirectly called you the enemy if you didn't catch that.

Given the support of red flag laws by many members here, I'm certainly not going to post anything provocative, but I assure you I will not be in prison. I also would be careful with "it isn't going to happen", given the rapid pace at which many members are willing to drive us to the edge of the cliff, forfeiting every right that doesn't matter to them on the way. But hey, you have a sweet 401K, right?

There's a lot of "since it doesn't affect me, I don't care" going around. Our worst enemies are among us- large cohorts of the gun community telling the NRA and politicians that things like Red Flag laws, part bans, and AWB are okay, because it doesn't affect them. I personally would never own a bump stock and had one pistol brace I really didn't care for. I'm also not worried about red flag laws (until someone turns on me). That doesn't mean I would ever be passive about laws that infringe the rights and freedom of others.

So I assume you will be first in line at a mandatory gun buyback?

My suspicion is that those would be “Akins Accelerator’ed” and be outright banned. I don’t have a dog in the pistol brace fight and just sold the only AR pistol I own, so I will stick to mags and stuff I truly want. Almost everything on my shopping list is checked at this point. In unrelated SBR news, I had an eForm 1 come back approved with a stamp on less than a month and think it would have been quicker if I had gotten fingerprints done sooner than day 14.

I’ve been through more than one of these discos and see which way the wind is blowing. I admittedly went way overboard after the last one settled, which forced a mass sell off of ammo, mags, and rifles before moving here, as movers don’t touch ammo/guns and I couldn’t get a big enough trailer. Anyhow, I have a weird feeling this is “the big one”. I’ve put some projects on hold to start funding things that I would want in the future in case there is an AWB. I’m not buying stuff to resell like many do, but don’t want to have any regrets on what I wish I would have purchased when I had the opportunity. I currently have a bid on the rifle that got away from me a few years ago and if it doesn’t work out, I have a backup to get a different one for a bit more. I’ve been buying a good number of mags on a regular basis and bought a bunch more yesterday. And while ammo doesn’t seem to be currently at risk, I did scoop up a ton of it at a local sale knowing ammo spikes after these bans and takes forever to come back down to these levels. Drums are obviously going to be under attack, but I’m not buying any because I genuinely don’t like them. I used a Magpul D60 on one stage at one match that warranted it, but it’s been collecting dust since. I don’t get the sense anyone else has started truly “panic buying” yet, given that I just got a whole page of good ARs for $600-$800 from CDNN. Classifieds seem pretty quiet, too. That said, I remember empty gun shelf walls after Sandy Hook/Obama and don’t want to be the guy running across town to get a box of 22LR. Anyone else preparing for a potential storm? Or waiting it out?

TBI will find a way to deny. I had a misdemeanor disorderly conduct “fighting” in 2007 in a small town in AZ. TBI wouldn’t approve me until I spent months figuring out the reason and then more time tracking down the paperwork. The reason? It was clearly listed as a bar fight with no injuries BUT no victim was listed, who would have been the bouncer. Their reason for denial was that without a victim, it “could” have been domestic violence. Burden of proof was on me to find paperwork with the bouncer’s name and that he wasn’t related to me. Private party sales are your option until the NRA sells you up the river on universal background checks.

Most likely an MP5 or clone, as mentioned above.

I got a deal on the Springfield Elite RO Champion and I’ve been really pleased with it. Accurate as hell. It’s slim, but big. I’d rather carry a G19 though.

I didn't like the 43 either. My point of aim was different, it was snappy, and it was just a little too slim. Where are you having issues concealing? With Glocks, I go between the 19 and 26. I find the "bobtail" of the 19 is where I print the most (albeit rarely), so the Pearce +0 pinky extension gives me the same grip on a G26. I use a G-Code IWB holster. My EDC is a double stack Wilson Combat EDC X9. I also briefly tried carrying a commander 1911. I didn't see a major difference in width as far as concealment, but everyone is different. I'm actually carrying an EDC X9 and a G26 right now with a t-shirt and I'm not printing at all.

When that happened to me, the bullet would stick really close to the chamber and the next round wouldn't feed. But a HiPoint could have a looser tolerance. No way those rounds had much, if any, powder. The customer's complaint was "accuracy issues". He couldn't get on paper at any distance.

I'm mixing two topics in my last sentence. If we were shooting buddies, you would know I am a TN resident and well over the legal age. Although I JUST noticed my profile says Phoenix, AZ, so that looks suspicious and weird, especially given the subject matter. Fixed. I joined the forum 6 months before moving to TN to start getting a feel for ranges and laws and never changed it. Appreciate your insight. Not much more to add. This topic always turned into a closed thread on the forum I used to belong to due to personal attacks on the people who required BOS of any kind. I appreciate those of you who do put BOS required in your ad versus surprises. DaveTN's "basic BOS" probably wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but I can't say I have ever responded to a BOS ad. I have had them sprung on me during the transaction, and every single one of them was NOT a simple name and signature. One actually had "last 6 of SSN", but the ID grabbing attempts really pissed me off. Seeing BOS required far more frequently here, I will likely be more prone to not immediately exit the ad and maybe ask what information the seller wants before making an offer.

Zero argument on that, which is why I only ever required the “ID flash” when I would sell anything. Age hadn’t crossed my mind here, so good call out. In AZ, DL’s under the age of 21 were printed vertically to idiotproof ID checks for bartenders, so if you flashed me an AZ ID that is horizontal with your pic, you were good. Will look at DOB here with everything horizontal, but I have only done 1-2 transactions with guys my age or older. That said, can you help me understand how the BOS protects you from residency/age? It’s the ID check that gets what you need. I genuinely don’t see the correlation. What you describe about ID and what you capture are two different things. Not being snarky or disrespectful. And my point is you likely already have my name, number, car type from messages leading up to the deal. My other point is that your BOS isnt like most others I’ve seen, so “simple BOS” versus the guy that grabbed my license and tried to start writing everything down like I was getting a ticket should be called out in the ad. I see “BOS” and assume the latter. I would probably be fine with yours, again, since no one here knows me.

Established meaning on the forums, not legally. I have no feedback or buddies from the board to vouch for me. I have my TN license, a house, a job, and a TN carry permit. My point was that most of my trading buddies in AZ all knew me from matches or previous dealings. I was more “established” on the forums.