DaveTN

Try @echo off (at the beginning of the file) and CLS prior to the EXIT command

Technicalities are what we are discussing. The OP didn’t ask for our opinion on if we thought he would get caught, or if any of us have done it; he asked if what took place was legal. As far as what you do at gun shows; state law allows for your private sale at a gun show with certain restrictions (age/eligibility). Under state law you must know the person is of age, period. How you determine that is up to you; I request ID (unless the guy looks as old as me; then I’ll risk it). That is the law and your responsibility; if you violate it for any reason, you may be arrested. Federal and State law outlaws the selling to an ineligible person. Since you can’t do a background check, it is only a crime if you knew the person was ineligible. I require a bill of sale. It may not stop me from being arrested; but it might help. Especially if the person says they told me they were a convicted felon or didn’t know if they could pass a background check. If they are being arrested; they are going to say anything they think will help them. Selling to someone from out of state on the other hand is a Federal offense. If while at the gun show you sell to an out of state person, and that becomes an issue; you might be arrested. There are a bunch of ways that could happen. There have been stings at gun shows. Based on the current political climate I suspect they will become common place. Several years ago on this forum I had a gun for sale. I guy sent me a PM saying that he wanted the gun and was from AL, but was up here often and wanted to know if we could meet for him to get the gun. An innocent error on his part, or a sting by law enforcement to arrest me? Who knows, but I wasn’t about to find out.

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Manufacturing today is far beyond any capabilities we had in the past. I am absolutely sure of that because I have been in it most all my life. If you are on top on the game, you don’t need “Hand fitting” you only need assembly. If you are making guns to sell at the lowest price possible; you won’t be as concerned about, or judged on, your quality. Folks are happy to buy bottom feeder guns if they are cheap. But that will be very different if you are claiming a comeback of one of the most iconic revolvers in the firearms market. I expect to see plenty of whining and crying about this gun regardless of the quality. I wish the new snake luck. You get what you pay for and that hasn’t changed fully yet; but it’s on its way. Look at the Ruger Wrangler. From most everyone’s first impressions (That I have seen), the finish is Cerakote and nothing to brag about, but the quality and accuracy is far beyond any of those other cheap revolvers out there. And its under $200.

My understanding is it’s not a skill problem; they all have the skill, including a guy here that did one for me; it’s an OSHA problem. The bright blue comes out as good as the polish job prior to the bluing. The better the polish job; the better the finish. The extra work, coupled with the high cost of OSHA disposal of chemicals, apparently puts the cost high enough Colt & S&W don’t think buyers will want it. They also can't do it to stainless, so unless Colt offers that gun in steel; no polished blue. There are refinishers that will do steel; but they ain’t cheap.

I agree. And being a former Police Officer; I’ve said that about cops in the past. I know you will have those that think the cops will like this; they won’t. I can’t see Chiefs and Sheriffs sending their Officers/Deputies door to door to confiscate guns. Now, if a state outlaws some gun and it is found on a traffic stop or a call to the home; that’s a whole other story and would depend a lot on the Officer, the discretion he has, and how the gun became an issue. We will have a big problem if our state ever decides to go that route. I don’t think that would ever happen. EDIT: I take that back. I don’t think it will happen soon. Memphis, Nashville, Chattanooga and Knoxville are growing. Our state will be blue at some point. But I never thought I would see Congress attempt to impeach a President because they didn’t like the outcome of the election. If Democrats take over the state; it could happen here.

You would have to check with your (or various) FFL’s. I say that because FFL’s are not ever required to do a transfer. The facts in this case may/may not bother them. They will also tell you if they need the FIL’s info or not, and if they need him present (I doubt they need that) For example, it is legal for an out of state resident to buy a long gun here. When by BIL was here, the dealer would not do it, because they are responsible for not only complying with Federal laws, but they must comply with the laws of both states. He said you may find a dealer that would do it; but not him. Your case became unusual when a GA FFL did a handgun transfer to a TN resident; in GA. Unusual? Yes. Illegal? I believe so, but I don’t know that for sure. I would guess he did a background on the FIL, never checked anything on your wife, and called it a day. But that’s just a WAG.

No. It is legal as long as it is loaned; you can't "gift" a handgun to a resident of another state without a transfer. Call your local dealer, tell him this story. See if he will do the transfer. He should not need the Father in Law here; but it is up to him, what he wants or if he wants to do it. It sounds to me like, based on your description, Federal law was violated in GA at the time of the purchase; but I'm not positive about that. As I understand the law the transfer should have stopped as soon as your wife presented a TN ID.

Yes, I would say further action is required to be legal. However, you need to find out from an attorney if you can gift a handgun to a family member in another state. My opinion, which is worth exactly what you are paying for it, is that the gun dealer violated the law. I could be wrong though; it has happened before. But I’m not aware of a way handgun ownership can be transferred either by selling or gifting between non-licensees in different states, without a transfer through an FFL in the new owners state. This is a case where you probably shouldn’t go by what you read on an internet forum. Other than the call an attorney part.

The only way that handgun was legally transferred to her, was if she handed the guy a GA ID. The facts don't add up here. You need to either talk to an attorney or go ask your local gun dealer if he will do a transfer. Until that gun is legally transferred; its legal for him to loan it to his daughter. As long as no money changed hands.

Since you didn’t get judicial diversion; you are a convicted felon unless you have a complete expungement that restores your rights. This is answered in the other thread you started about it.

He is a resident of GA, you are a resident of TN, it is a handgun. He can loan it to you, but to transfer ownership; it must go through a transfer at an FFL.

It wouldn't apply to them . They aren’t claiming to be licensed guards. They are just citizens with HCP’s.

From your “judicial diversion” description, it sounds to me like your charges were dismissed; not expunged. That’s means you have never been convicted. But you would have to ask a Tennessee attorney that.

Yea, that’s what I think. Because its different, the original Python will hold value. Also, most younger shooters have never shot a Python and when they do; I would guess they will want to also own an original. I owned three in the late 70’s early 80’s. They were beautiful guns; but I shot a S&W more accurately. (I was shooting mostly double action) But it was me, and what I was used to; not the gun. Wish I had them back today. (Simply for the value) Would I pay the price of two 686’s for the new model? No, but I suspect plenty of people will. EDIT: Too bad they aren’t offering the blue. It was really beautiful, and what I would want if I were buying one.

Big shoes to fill. I’m sure the owners of the original Python are glad this is a “redesign”. This will certainly cause a lot of discussion.

I would guess your service contract just paid for itself.

I am no longer in that group, and surprising I didn’t feel left out when I read that.

Been there done that, and still have the T-shirt. And I wouldn’t gain anything by spending those thousands to upgrade. Glad you found an answer.

Words to live by.

If you are trying to run it in windows 7 or later; maybe this will help. https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000785.htm

I’ve never used either one of those apps. But I’ve often wondered how much longer taxi’s can survive. (Should I ever need one)

Lots of new stuff coming out lately.

I love them, but I don’t carry one anymore; although a lot of folks do. A good one in .45ACP is an excellent example of high quality all metal guns. The weight vs. round count just doesn’t compare to a Tupperware gun. Their application, for me, is they are excellent target guns and range toys. I’ve never owned one in 9mm based on all the folks I see that have problems with the 9mm being able to operate the heavier gun. Of course, some don’t have problems. As far as holsters go; I’m all leather, all the time. But of course, they cost more.