DaveTN

You will never get pro-gun folks to agree to that. I would bet the number of shooters that can’t pass the LEO qualification for their area is through the roof. It would be seen as far left gun control. But that’s how I see the classes you teach being required by the government. It keeps the poor and those immediately needing guns because of domestic violence from legally carrying guns. You have a right to carry. Its black and white with no grey. Get on one side or the other. Now…having said that; our state does not agree with me and does not recognize an individual right to bear arms. Carrying a gun without buying the privilege from them is a criminal offense. BTW… If Constitutional carry was passed, and the training requirement was on the individual and not state mandated; I believe you might see your business increase. I say might because there are a lot of highly qualified people that don’t hold any paperwork saying they are state qualified. That would be your competition. However… any of our opinions really don’t matter. The legislature did what they wanted to do. Some day they may decide to change it again; who knows. But I suspect it will be awhile.

Terry Waldens range at Manchester has pistol Ranges, and 328 Yard Rifle ranges. It’s an unsupervised range and is 62 miles from Franklin. Whether you could make that in 45 minutes is an unknown.

Thanks for the heads-up, I might have to go; I haven’t been in a while. I bet I can find a “Cowboy Gun” there.

BTW… DBTN does a good job on these videos. We need to support him by subscribing to his you tube channel and giving him some likes.

My Zombie gun is an AR-10. Won’t that do?

Sorry man, that is bad. In 1975 I had 900cc of god-awful bad assery, but this is the form it took. I hated it when it was stolen.

Okay well, we just have to agree to disagree on the idea of government mandated training. I’m fully aware that a person needs training. But I don’t believe it needs to be a paid training class. But if we are going to require government training; why not do it right? How about we require the same training on the use of deadly force, with a written test, and the same range qualification, as required for Police Officers in our jurisdiction? See where this is headed?

I saw that, that's why I included you in that group. That’s why you get a big at a boy and a pat on the back, cause you done good.

That was my first thought, but I figured if I posted it, I would get scolded, along with a bunch of links to where cops had to reload a shotgun in a shootout. My experience was that while some folks wouldn’t comply or care if you were pointing a handgun at them, they couldn’t comply fast enough when an Officer with a shotgun or a Dog arrived. I only remember a shotgun being fired by anyone on our department once.

Common sense and training will prevail. Common sense says that brass down is the way to go. But if you don’t train often; you will be slow no matter where they are or what orientation they are in. If you do train; you will figure it out. Common sense also says if a round falls out on the ground, ever; you need a new or different type carrier. Beside the new recruit training, how often do your Officers train with a shotgun?

If you do a search, you will see that whether or not you have to put your kid on your policy depends on your policy and the state you are in. Tennessee law requires that the driver of a vehicle be insured. But that still doesn’t mean they have to be listed on your policy. You would need to check your policy to see who is covered, other than the named policy holder. Or simply call your agent and ask. I see my insurance agent as I do my financial advisor, my Doctor or my Lawyer; I have to trust what they tell me is correct, or I have to find a new one.

And you think those people would not have got that training without government intervention??

You and your BIL both will be legends around here if you pull that off.

Since this conversation has turned into insurance; I’ll add this. there are insurance state laws, but insurance companies have wide leeway in what they put in your contract. I’ve never read mine word for word all the way through and I bet most people don’t. When I worked traffic, most people were surprised when I told them the Police don’t determine fault; insurance companies, and in rare cases the Courts are who determine fault. The fact that a person did/did not get a ticket had very little bearing on what the insurance companies decided. People got really ticked when an accident report wasn’t required and we wouldn’t do one. They would be adamant that we take a report and ticket the other driver. Traffic was a terrible job. (For me)

There are going to be idiots that are the very last people any of us would want to see in front of a camera, and they will be the people the MSM seeks out. That will happen at a gun rally anywhere. You could have a bunch of well dressed articulate people present and the media would want to talk to the open carry guy, with his boots bloused and his wife beater tee shirt.

With a .22??? What is your BIL using?

Most anywhere in Nashville will have CCI Mini-Mag for around $8 a box of 100. That’s the only rimfire ammo I have found that will run all my .22’s with no issues. Unless you are prepared to buy a lot, shipping makes buying local a good deal. If you are going to buy a lot, Target Sports USA has 5000 round cases for $279. 50 with free shipping, +Tax +shipping insurance. About $310 to your door. https://www.targetsportsusa.com/cci-mini-mag-high-velocity-22-long-rifle-ammo-40-grain-copper-plated-round-nose-0030-p-892.aspx Good Luck finding what you want.

That Deputy makes the same argument I make. My right to bear arms does not come from the 2nd amendment; it comes from a higher power. I’m glad to see him stand up and say that. And because he did it in uniform I assume the Sheriff of that County is in agreement with him.

When I asked my State Farm Agent if someone else was covered if I let them drive my vehicle, he told me that if they had a wreck; their insurance would kick in first, if they didn’t have insurance, mine would cover it.

It’s one of three options. Have you been to a Tennessee HCP class? Did something happen in that class that made you safer to be around the rest of us? People can be held responsible for their actions without having to pay a government appointed trainer to put their stamp of approval them.

I have all my bases covered on carry and home defense guns (for now) and find myself buying range toys. What have you bought that serves no purpose other than something for you to play with at the range? Or even something you are buying as a collectable and will never shoot? I could never own something and not shoot it; but I know some folks do that. I just ordered a Ruger Mark IV Competition; it supposed to be here Tuesday. My next purchase will be to try to fill the spot of “Cowboy Gun”. I’’ post pics when I get them. The only other range toys I have is my 1911, Garand and my rimfires. Feel free to post pictures.

If for your first post on the forum, you feel strongly enough about a topic that you resurrect an 8 year old thread; you should give your opinion on the subject instead of trying to redirect traffic to another forum. Don't you think?

That is what keeps some folks from getting the HCP.

I’m not absolutely sure what that says, but you can still report it to PayPal. If you used a credit card on PayPal….dispute it. If you didn’t use PayPal and just sent some money to a Google account; disregard the above.

Both of you together don’t count as one. I gotta get back to live PD now...