DaveTN

The rest of us? According to the state of Tennessee you do not have a right to bear arms; so no rights are involved. We are both special groups with special privileges. Are you really going to make the argument that one special group shouldn’t have more privileges than the other special group? The average citizen has the right to complain; special groups have none. </O:p

It’s an equipment violation. The cop can stop you and inspect it. Just like loud pipes, lift kits, bald tires, etc. The state offers proof that it is not DOT approved or they drop the ticket. I have no personal knowledge of how to determine if a helmet is DOT approved, but if it’s a violation of state law someone does.

I didn’t read through this whole thread… Is it DOT approved? Did he recognize it as a fake? I would guess he could tow your vehicle if you couldn’t legally drive it off… but that’s just a WAG based on law from another state.

Quality wise we don’t know yet. But if it’s manufactured here; the quality will be better and the money I spend stays here to help our economy. If it’s just a bunch of foreign junk shipped in here and bolted together; it may not be any better than your RIA. Smith & Wesson rocked the market with an American made (all parts) high quality Tupperware gun and held the price line of the bottom feeders. Maybe Remington is going to do the same thing with the 1911. We can dream can’t we.

You see them all the time in great shape for $300-$400 in 30-30. I couldn’t find a .357mag when I was looking, so they might go a little higher.

Out of stock, but $578 at Buds. Made in America and a low price. Depending on performance it looks like a pretty good deal.

I had the same problem you had; mags made no difference. I disassembled and thoroughly cleaned the bolt and it took care of the problem. I did it without a Bolt tool; but I won’t try that again. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/gunsmithing-troubleshooting/13154-does-anyone-have-m1-carbine-bolt-tool.html Here are some excellent links if you have not found them yet. Collecting and Shooting the U.S. M1 .30 Caliber Carbine - Bolt Disassembly and Reassembly Collecting and Shooting the U.S. M1 .30 Caliber Carbine - Disassembly and Reassembly

Have you completely disassembled the bolt and soaked it in cleaner?

Fill us in. What is “proper posting†and why did it cost you a grand? I don’t know. All we know is that a gun with a slash through it is not enough according to an AG opinion. So can someone be charged (or cited) if the sign is a gun with a circle through it? Certainly… because the AG’s opinion is just that; an opinion. A Judge may have a different opinion. But the bottom line is that we have kicked this around many times on the forum and so far no one has been arrested or cited for carrying past a sign of any kind. So…. It seems that folks are worrying about something that has not happened. If you are worried about being arrested or cited; don’t carry past a sign of any kind. If you want to test the system there is a guy over in Franklin… As a cop the problem we generally had with trespassing was that like most laws it required intent. If the said they didn’t see the signs, we have them verbal warning and they went on their way. If they were caught again they were arrested for criminal trespass. However…. If we were called because someone was trespassing on private property there was a pretty good chance Drugs, Liquor, Guns, theft or drivers license violations were involved; very few trespassers walked away when we had a complainant.

I wasn’t saying that it happened. I was talking about those arguing that they had a right to stop for a couple after work and that if they weren’t at .08 (legal presumption of intoxication) everything was good. I guess they think .07 is okay. You would have to search for the threads from that time period and read them. If you could take your kids in for a family dinner ….. You just might be in a restaurant. If you try to take your kids in for a family dinner and you are stopped at the door because it is an age restricted venue… You just might be in a bar.

I’m not a business owner, I don’t know. But the next time I find myself standing in a bar; I will ask. Are you telling me you don’t know the difference in a bar and a restaurant when you are in them? I can assure you that I don’t know the legal difference. But I can also assure you that I can take you to a bar for a beer in Murfreesboro and you will agree with me that we are in a bar and not a restaurant.

I’m not a fan of the 9mm, but it isn't the round. It is the gun. I am a big fan of Smith & Wesson; they are and will always be #1 in handguns. But in 150 years of making guns you are bound to get a lemon; the Sigma is S&W’s black eye. The trigger is pathetic. However… don’t turn your back on the top maker because of that dog. Check out the M&P. Not only is it better quality than the others; but it is made here not in Croatia. (I don’t know if that matters to you; but it does to me.)

No. Keep the 642 for carry and get a 2 ½” OR 4” S&W K-frame .357 for riding. It really depends on the distance you might be shooting. As far as quality goes… What is your life worth?

It was not a big deal until the “Drunks with Guns†decided that not only did they have a right to carry in a bar; they had a right to have a “drink or two†while they were doing it. As so is the argument that Tennessee doesn’t have bars. I know a bar when I am standing in it and I will be happy to show you bars in Murfreesboro and even buy you a beer while we discuss it. Drinking and driving is a crime; they don’t have to assume that everyone that is drinking is driving. And Metro and many others cities have all kind of methods for busting drunk drivers. Metro has the DUI task force in the downtown area and road blocks outside that area. Good for them. A bar is still a bar. It’s not about safety; it’s about liability. If you want the state to force a business owner to expose himself to a civil suit then you get the state to exempt them first. But of course that won’t happen because most lawmakers are lawyers and they won’t do anything to limit a payday. I am not against HCP holders being able to carry in bars as long as they can’t drink. If they drink; they lose their HCP. I also will not support any law that takes away the business owners authority to post unless the law also gives him total immunity from civil action of any kind based on the acts of a HCP holder.

Ultimate Equipment

Ahh… it obviously not simple enough for a caveman to understand it. But thanks for the constructive discussion.

Did you go to the Sheriff’s Office? Since this is pretty common I would guess the secretaries in the Sherriff’s Office would know more about this than Deputies that have absolutely nothing to do with it…. Wouldn’t you? I doubt that you would need to talk to the Sherriff himself, would you?

The term “LEO†is used fast and loose in many cases. I will use Illinois as an example and maybe someone can fill us in on Tennessee. In Illinois if you are a Police Officer you are certified by the state… period. If you do not have that certification you are not a Police Officer. If you do have that certification you have Police powers anywhere in the state. Probation Officers may or may not be Police Officers. Some Counties send them to the Police Academy and they have full Police powers and some do not. State Corrections Officers are not Police Officers. Some are licensed by the state to carry; most are not. In order to be covered by LEOSA and exempt from state firearm carry laws the Officer has requirements under the act that he or his agency must meet. If the Officer doesn’t know if he is covered; there is a good chance he is not. A phone call to his supervisor should answer any questions he has.

It’s obviously about money; so I doubt the DOS cares. When you look at some of the responses posted by HCP instructors on this and other forum in response to questions about firearms or the law; it’s kinda hard to believe anyone is really taking this seriously. It’s up to the individual to make sure they get proper training; it is their life, the lives of their family members and their financial well being that are at risk. All day vs. half day in a BS “training class†where everyone passes no matter what won’t change that.

It’s not a class to teaching shooting; it’s a handgun carry permit class. I would say that most people already shoot and they are there to learn the laws as they pertain to HCP. I hate to be cold but I don’t really want to stand around waiting while someone that doesn’t know which end of the barrel a bullet comes out takes ups the classes’ time. It’s their responsibility to learn that prior to an HCP class. As soon as the classroom was over I just wanted to shoot and hit the road. I’m glad ours was only half a day; that’s why I picked it. I wish they had some legal experts involved in the training.

Loaded and immediately accessible. If you maintain it properly; it really doesn’t matter how you store it. Kimber, Chip McCormick, Wilson.

If what she is telling you is true; TBI can’t clear it up without changing their policy. If you have a misdemeanor assault conviction the information is coming from the Feds. TBI can’t retain information on you that they got from a background check. So if they claim they are going to deny anyone with an assault conviction; you will continue to be denied. However… I would be suspect of what a clerk at the TBI tells you. I was refused twice because of a gun possession charge in Illinois that was dismissed. Both times I appealed and the purchase went through. Both times the clerk told me it was because the charge in Illinois could possibly be a felony in Tennessee, even though it was clearly marked as a misdemeanor. She just clearly didn’t have a clue of what she was talking about or why I was denied. The gun charge was 20 years old and was dismissed. I got tired of messing with the TBI and decided to spend the $30 for my C&R license and figured that would show what was truly going on. That worked. ATF sent me a letter explaining that the charge was not the issue. The issue was that the FBI records did not show a disposition. So even though it was a misdemeanor charge; nothing could be approved without a disposition. I followed their instructions of how to take care of the problem; got my C&R, and haven’t had a problem since.

Yes it is. And that will be the down fall of it. Just because you don’t have a legal name for bars in this state; they still exist. We did this. The anti gun people had nothing to do with it. We had a restaurant carry bill on-track to go through that would not allow carry in bars. The age limits and hour limits were removed and it became guns in bars. If you support guns in bars; say so. But don’t whine about the media calling it “Guns in bars†that’s exactly what it is.