DaveTN

They may get the Feds to drop the federal minimum age requirement for FFL’s; but states will still set the age. I joined the military at 17 during Vietnam; but I couldn’t legally buy a beer during my entire 4 year enlistment. That was 40 years ago and things are still the same. That really has nothing to do with this… but I don’t think it will change.

Doesn’t sound to me like anyone involved has an HCP. So yes, your friend is right; carrying that way could land you in jail.

I went through this with my best friend. Tennessee law is tougher than Federal law. His conviction was a drug conviction 25 years ago. He can get it expunged, but even if he does Tennessee will not restore his gun rights.

I feel sorry for the restaurant owners that have to deal with this from the whack jobs on both sides of this issue. But fortunately for them I don’t think either group can made a dimes worth of difference.

Didn’t Tennessee recently (last couple of years) impose stricter laws on “Felon in possession”; like mandatory prison time?

A straight up middle class neighborhood where it’s legal to get drunk and crank off a few rounds. Sherwood Forest sounds like a great place to live. Just when I think I have seen it all on this forum.

I would leave the Roni behind.

Format and clean install. It’s free and your computer will run like it did when it was new.

I’ve never found better pricing from reputable retailers than MidwayUSA. I have a C&R and that saved me $140 off a Leupold VX-III.

I saw this issue spiral out of control on another forum awhile back and really cause some hard feelings. The bottom line is that this is a private forum and you have no expectation of privacy. The owners here can read everything you write and can give that ability to Mods or whoever they choose. Do they? I guess only one person can answer that question.

Are we verifying for everyone else because you have already made your mind up? Not at all JayC. I know you would like to think that and you will probably find this hard to believe; but I had a job to do. I knew the law, I knew I was doing a lawful search and it was then the job of the States Attorney’s Office to keep it from getting kicked. Many searches are challenged prior to going to trial or making a plea agreement; it’s just part of the game. I asked for permission as part of simple conversation. Based on the situation I knew I had someone in possession of something illegal and I was about to find it. My conversation with them was to determine how things were going to go. Where they going to jail, were they getting a break, where being turned over to their parents, etc.

I see that continually on this forum. I also see that not only do they not know the law they can’t shoot either. I wasn’t a cop in Tennessee and I have never been stopped in Tennessee. The only interaction I have had had with Tennessee cops has either been personal, a gun sale, or one time when I was a witness to a burglary. But I find it hard to believe they are as inept as some here would lead us to believe. I was a cop on a 200+ Officer department in a city of 100,000. I worked with a good bunch of guys. They were knowledgeable and most of them did a great job. But sure, like any job every now and then we got guys that were lucky to be able to find their way to work. But they didn’t last long. We had some small towns around us that had some Officers with problems, and that may be the problem some are seeing here. When a town is paying low wages and doesn’t have a training budget that is what they get. Some of them grab the officers that can’t cut it on other departments so the town doesn’t have to pay to send them to the Police academy. I’m also curious when I see people that claim to know a lot about cops. How are you “running into†them? You know where I’m coming from because I’ve said I’m a former Police Officer, I’m just wondering where some of you are coming from. Do you work with them? If so, what do you do?

Savage has always been the lower priced option to the Remington 700. But this one is priced the same as the 700 VLS. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

JayC do you have kids? If so you really owe it to them to better understand the workings of search and seizure on the street. We don’t live in a courtroom and cops don’t drag a Judge around with them. If parents are going to interpret the law and the Constitution for their children they have the responsibility of knowing what they are talking about. Your child may someday be faced with a situation where they need to make an informed decision on what to do; a decision that could change their life and their career path. I know this because I have had this conversation with many young people. As I have said before, I have never asked for permission to search a vehicle that I didn’t already have probable cause to search. I have had kids go to jail for DUI or drug possession because their parents told them not to consent and not to say anything. If your kids are innocent of any wrongdoing they can afford to stand their ground. If they aren’t; they probably aren’t going to like the outcome. No cops are going to be getting sued for an illegal search… it just doesn’t happen. Your understandings are wrong. The stuff you are rattling on about ratios between searches ruled illegal and lawsuits which result in a settlement is silliness. I know that you see every search by the cops as an illegal search. But that just isn’t how it is; they know the law better than you. They know the law better than you because they are trained. You try to make it appear as something that is forced by insurance companies because of lawsuits… or some such silliness. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Certainly departments having training for their Officers. The law changes daily. You don’t appear to have any knowledge of Police Departments, how they train, the law, or civil suits. But you are entertaining and some of us can’t help but comment after you have taken the time to put your thoughts out here. Now…. Have a drink or whatever you need to do to get your blood pressure back down and enjoy the rest of the night.

I have owned many 1911’s. My last full size Kimber was a Custom TLE II. When I bought my S&W SW1911 Stainless Target; I sold the Kimber. They were about the same in accuracy and craftsmanship, I didn’t care for the finish on the Kimber. I’ve just carried S&W’s most of my life and they have always taken care of me if I had a question or problem. Therefore they get my business. My last compact Kimber was an SIS Ultra that was pretty cool but I just felt I had too much money in it for a 3†1911. So I sold it and bought two new handguns. I’m curious as to why you would want a 4†if you aren’t carrying it? I certainly would not pass on a good deal on a Kimber, but I’d prefer a Smith & Wesson. No matter what I buy it has to be made here by Americans; so that rules a few of them out.

Quote a case of a cop anywhere, ever, in any state, that has been charged for pulling a gun on someone in the line of duty. 1. You are a “Special Groupâ€. You have privileges that most citizens do not have. 2. The Police are a “Special Groupâ€. They have privileges that you don’t have. #1 doesn’t sit well with a lot of citizens, #2 doesn’t sit well with a lot of group #1. You guys crack me up.

Been drinking tonight have we?

Certainly they can; you don’t have the rights on school property that you have on the street. The SCOTUS has given special exception to schools. The Police or School Officials do not need “probable causeâ€; they only need “reasonable suspicion†when it involves the safety of the children. So far they (Officials) have been given a green light on every case I know of other than a strip search. The SCOTUS did rule that a strip search was going too far. However, they ruled that school officials could not be individually held liable, and left it up to the local courts if the school district could be held liable. So there is really no worry on the part of officials.

That doesn’t stop you from being arrested; it just gives your attorney reason to ask a Judge to decide on the legality of the search... Good luck with that. BTW… Thomas Jefferson would say don’t bring your guns to school if you don’t know the law.

What size bike inner tubes are you guys using?

I guess if you don’t understand or apply physics to anything; merely looking at diameter is one option. I doubt your instructor was trying to imply that a .380 and 10mm are close to being the same. If he was he is a simpleton.

Should I have read another thread somewhere before viewing this one?

Buy an M&P and you won’t need all that stuff.

Elect Sheriff Joe Arpaio Governor and ask him to fix the problem. He’ll do it and won’t ask for Federal troops to get the job done.

Ain’t that the truth. It already bad enough that they are like buying computers…. Use them three or four years and they aren’t worth anything.