DaveTN

I haven’t heard of anyone yet. It would require someone that is prepared to do prison time. That’s not me; I have stuff to do.

The costs for his case won’t be high. The state has already recognized him as a nut case and stripped him of his HCP. The only action he has left is his threat to sue the Officers that stopped him. That won’t go anywhere if it even makes it to court.

Whether he did anything illegal or not, If Florida is handing out carry permits to people that have had theirs revoked in another state they are putting their reciprocity in danger. If this gets out the Brady Bunch will be all over it. This nut case seems to seek out any crack in the system; even if it’s in another state.

Well I predict Voldemort won’t have a Florida permit much longer either. This guy is going to end up in jail.

It’s one of those issues that I was talking about earlier where an individual needs to do whatever they are ready to take responsibility for. I believe Federal Law requires you to notify the shipper when shipping a firearm; I could be wrong. At the very least UPS policy requires it. Therefore, I will do that and if they decline to ship… so be it. I just don’t care enough to be a test case. Someone on this board got caught intentionally mismarking a gun shipment by UPS. If I remember correctly UPS didn’t notify any LE agency, but maybe they can chime in and say what UPS had to say.

This has been brought up before. More than one statute says you have to notify the shipper. This is a case where many disagree. I believe the intent of the law has nothing to do with making sure the wrong person doesn't get a gun, and has everything to do with letting the shipper know that they have weapons on-board so they can make proper arrangements. I was not allowed to ship a gun that I was legally shipping at the Murfreesboro UPS terminal. I was pizzed, but not enough to lie about it or not report it. I may be wrong, but I’m not going to court over it.

From someone that worked on a Sub Tender (USS Holland AS-32)… The advantage of a nuke boat is not stealth; Diesel boats could be quieter. A Navy sub couldn’t launch a missile accidently 30 years ago; I doubt that has changed. For those that think the Chinese or the North Koreans launched a missile… what do you think their intent was? I haven’t looked at the links here but I saw some of the stories when it happened. Private Citizens have the ability to launch a missile. Here is a picture of Mike Melvill (First private Citizen Astronaut) taking SpaceShipOne into space.

Are Springfield’s made in Brazil? I thought just the frames of some of the lower priced models were?

It’s like any other law Bubba; intent of the person is an element of the law. You could have the State Attorney General give you an interpretation of the law and that doesn’t bind a judge to anything. As a cop I saw attorneys (on the same side) disagree many times on the meaning and application of a law. The only person that can give you an interpretation of the law or how it is applied to a specific case; is the Judge. At least he is the only one that matters if the charge has progressed through the cops, DA, and is now in a courtroom. The cops can choose not to arrest, the DA can choose not to prosecute, but that doesn’t give any meaningful interpretation of a law. We have these good discussions here because we have such a cross section of background. Some try to interpret the laws the way they think they were intended, some try to interpret the laws the way they want them to be, some try to interpret the laws based on something that has no bearing on the case (like the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> amendment) and some are totally clueless about what’s going on most of the time they just want to argue. You can read the AFT FAQ’s just like the rest of us. At the bottom of each of those FAQ’s they reference the section of the United States Code they are about. Don’t kid yourself that you need to be a lawyer to understand what it is saying. And if you do want to ask a lawyer you need to ask a lawyer that specializes in criminal law and knows the gun laws. But the bottom line is that it’s on you. Whether it is gun laws, DUI, or search and seizure on a traffic stop; it’s up to you to know what is going on. Lawyers step in and try to fix things generally after you have screwed up.

This will have to be a 1911 thread; because Springfield doesn’t make XD’s. They do however make some good 1911’s.

That is true but many dealers won’t sell to an out of state buyer because they are responsible to know the laws of both the state they are in and the buyer’s state. We are talking about transferring to another person; and that must go through an FFL even on a long gun.

You are thinking like a cop. The intent may well be to commit a felony by circumventing the legal transfer, but the letter of the law allows it. (I assume the letter of the law allows it; those are merely ATF FAQ’s that are being quoted. I have not looked at the written law.) I think you are adding something that is not there. If that was the intent it would say within their own state. Temporary use is not defined. The family member could be using it for IDPA over a long period of time. However, who would want to run the risk of a felony conviction or even court costs when they can just do the transfer? Many things could be argued in court; but who in their right mind wants to play that game?

That’s just over two weeks including the mail time. Someone in government has done something that very rarely happens and I think they need to be recognized for it. They have cut a major portion of the bureaucracy out of this. Either that or they just hired a bunch more people and added to the bureaucracy.

Thanks. How did it handle? As far as controllability? I know you said you shot a good group, but was it hard to bring it back on target? And for you guys that have this gun in .40S&W… what do you think? It’s only about 25% lighter than my M&P40 Compact so I wouldn’t think there would be a lot of difference.

If I die without a will is it safe to assume that everything will go to my wife? I’m not talking about any legalities about firearms and such; just general stuff. The state won’t try to step in or take anything will they?

For a big gun (1911, full-size M&P, etc.) 4 to 5 o’clock with the grips laying flat against my body instead of sticking out. For a J-frame I like it at 11 o’clock in the front for a cross draw.

Did they happen to have the PM40? And if so was it the same physical size? I just can’t do pocket carry; do any of you guys that have them have any decent IWB holsters?

Are you Gary Brommeland?

While I have some pretty nice semi-autos; an S&W Model 686 occupies the headboard of my bed. I do not carry it; it just stands guard in the same place all the time. It is simplistic in its operation and its reliability is second to none. I do not own another handgun that I feel more secure with.

As stated above. But it appears to me (after over 40 years of owning them) that they do everything possible to keep from charging you; especially if it’s a safety issue. It just depends on what you need. I’ve only had to send one gun back for repair, but I’ve called them countless times, sometimes just for info. I wish other company’s had the kind of customer service I have received from Smith & Wesson over the years.

I thought about…. And laughed about and forgot about it. They only person you will need to show it to is an ATF agent. I doubt he will be impressed. The paper books will soon be history and they (like everything else) will be electronic. I downloaded the free one; hole punched it and called it a day.

I sure don’t want to start using Canada as an example of gun laws. What do you want that you can’t get?

And that’s how it should be. Trust me, you don’t want dispatchers deciding if you really need help or not. If there is nothing to it; the Officers will determine that when they get there. Most people don’t know the motor vehicle laws, and they all drive them. What makes anyone think they would know gun laws when they don’t have any? I carry concealed. Mainly for security and tactical reasons, but also because I don’t want to deal with the drama. If I decided to open carry I would expect that at some time I would be stopped.

You are right…. A gay guy that is pissed off about being gay in the military decides to release a few thousand classified documents as retaliation. What could my freaking narrow, homophobic mind possibly have been thinking when I made the connection between that and gays in the military? Please forgive me. Psych!! You must be kidding right?

How did this work out?