DaveTN

That’s only if your shooting has been ruled justified. There is no ruling if your case is not prosecuted. If someone sues you and it is then ruled you were justified; you can seek a judgment for attorney fees and costs; good luck with collecting.

I have been wanting to try out a Kahr Micro. They must be good because I haven’t had much luck finding any used ones that weren’t priced at new prices. I think I’ll be giving up and ordering new in the next couple of weeks. Did you get a good deal at the show?

No emotional response from Kerr, she was just quoting Maggi Duncan. A Police Chief or a Sheriff is not simply enforcing the laws; they are responsible for public safety. I still don’t see where you think they are making up any laws. Some of them have said they aren’t going to sell guns…. Period. I have read the law and as long as they aren’t defying a court order, it doesn’t appear to me they are required to sell. If I am wrong in that assessment a Judge needs to call them on it. Personally… If I was the Chief of Metro I would tell the legislature I am not selling any gun without a court order to do so (on each and every one) and even then someone better waltz their azz down from the capitol with an FFL in their hand. I know he can’t do that for fear of losing his job, but they are trying to bully him into doing something that is wrong. Was he specifically addressing the situation of the gun belonging to the victim of a burglary? Does Metro PD return stolen guns to their rightful owners when they have been recovered and not used in a murder? If they are evidence in a murder they could be needed if there was an appeal. Not if it isn't needed for evidence at trial. This whole thing is. If the Police Administrators want to sell guns; so be it. If they want to destroy them; that should be okay too as long as there is not a legal owner that was not involved in the crime.

I’m not suggesting that they destroy anything that has a lawful owner. A gun used in a murder is going to be tied up in evidence for a very long time, possibly until the offender dies. If the cops don’t know who the owner is; it gets destroyed. If they do know who the owner is; it gets returned to them. Not sold to you. Cars are only sold when they are seized from criminals. They don’t sell your car if they recover it after it has been stolen. The Police have been mentioned and people are overreacting like crazy. What laws do you think the Police are making up? I read the law; its doesn’t require that gun be sold unless there is a court order. Has there been a court order to sell a gun that the Police have refused to sell? Because then they would be in contempt of court. I still say cops selling guns is crazy at face value. Only a lunatic legislator would even propose forcing a Police Administrator to sell guns he doesn’t want to sell.

I meant are Police Departments destroying guns that were stolen from law abiding citizens just because they were used in a crime? Once the weapon is released by the DA from evidence; it goes back to the legal owner. The state can keep it as evidence as long as they see fit; but they damn sure can’t sell it.

I’m not familiar with this Gail Kerr but I don’t see anything “childlike†or “emotional†in the article. I agree with her; let the Administrators make those decisions. Why are guns getting special attention anyway? A lot of property and evidence is destroyed; who cares. Metro’s already said they aren’t selling guns. I applaud them for that; cops don’t belong in the gun business. Is anyone suggesting that? When a gun is released from evidence that was stolen; it goes back to the legal owner. The state can’t sell it; that’s theft.

Absolutely. If Tennessee were to become the fifth state (that’s right only four now) that recognizes both the right to own and the right to carry as an individual right, then the business owners would be in a tougher position. They could still legally ban firearms on their property, but they would have to do so knowing that all citizens have a Constitutional right to have a gun in their car. They would also probably be free of any civil action because of someone having a gun on their property. Now that all citizens would be allowed to carry because the state would be recognizing a right; they would be risking civil action if they had a ban unless they had an obvious safety issue.

If you believe that you can’t point a gun at someone without being justified in the use of deadly force, then you must believe that either the cops are exempt from those laws or they are breaking the law. Which is it? As a Police Officer if I saw someone breaking into a car, I would take him at gun point. I would order him to the ground and I would hold him at gun point until a second Officer arrived to cuff him. If I was making a felony vehicle stop the occupants are removed from the vehicle at gunpoint. Had those people ran I was not justified in killing them. I did that because they were committing a crime and I had no idea if they were armed or what they were going to do; therefore I was prepared to use deadly force if the situation escalated to that point. Could a Police Officer arrest me for pulling a gun on someone committing an auto burglary? Sure. Would it happen? Only here.

I don’t like an alloy frame on any 1911 unless that alloy is stainless steel.

No, but I predict you are getting ready to hear from a bunch of people that would have you believe they would rather die than give up their wallet. That or you just aren’t properly trained on how to take out a man that is pointing a gun at you.

Good for you. If you are going to buy cheap buy American made cheap.

I disagree, but before we start impressing everyone by swapping 39 dash whatever’s… What are you going to charge me with? Aggravated Assault?

Let us know what happens. Is this the guy? I've seen this guy around and he's kinda shady.

Sounds like you have two issues. Call whoever is on the letterhead and find out where to send it. If the court date has passed and it hasn’t taken care of the ticket you might want to find out if a warrant has been issued for Failure To Appear. I would start here… http://www.fayettetn.us/CountyDepts/CircuitCt.htm[TABLE=width: 98%] [TR] [TD]Court Clerk: [/TD] [TD]Connie Doyle [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Address: [/TD] [TD]705 Justice Drive Somerville, TN 38068 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Phone: [/TD] [TD]901-465-5205 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fax: [/TD] [TD]901-465-5215 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hours: [/TD] [TD]Monday to Friday 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Services: Tickets Arrest Warrants Judgments Protection Orders

I have owned more 1911’s than I can count. Kimber was my favorite until S&W jumped in the game. The Kimbers I owned had accuracy that I would put up against the guns with some guys name on the side, and exceptional reliability and quality. I haven’t had one made in the last ten years, the haters say their quality has dropped; I don’t know about that. I’d love to have a 1911 in 9mm, (cheap trigger time) but I really hate to pay as much as one in the real caliber.

I would guess he has to take it with him to court; but that’s just a WAG. What Police Department or County was it?

Then you have three choices and three choices only. Here they are… 1. You contact an attorney and you see what type of civil or possibly even criminal action you can bring against this guy. 2. You go to the Police Department and you talk with the Shift Commander (or someone he delegates) of the shift this happened on. You don’t call him on the phone, and when you talk to him you use the same respect you would want him to show you. You ask him what can be done, and you listen to what he says. 3. You can go to the DA’s office and do the same with them. Number 1 will be expensive, from what you said that’s not an option. I doubt the DA will do anything. Number 2 is your best bet to make anything happen, but you can’t force them to act if they don’t feel it is justified. Well you do have a fourth choice. You can forget about it and help your parents handle the mess they are in now. They took care of you all your life; it’s time for you to step up.

It’s not “someone†it’s a process server. You know that and you don’t want to answer the door because you don’t want your Mother to be served papers. If you are in fear; you don’t open the door. If he kicks the door in; shoot him.

That’s crazy talk. We all remeber Harold Fish.

You are an emotionally charge young man and it’s a good thing you didn’t have a gun. Nothing happened that elevated that situation to the level of deadly force.

The cops know who the guy was. But they are not required to give you that info. I assume you tried to make a complaint at the time and they refused to take it? You can go directly to the DA, but they usually won’t get involved in minor stuff like this. The Police or the DA can simply contact the people that your parents didn’t pay and find out who they are using for process server.

Breech face to the muzzle. On a single shot just open it and measure the length of the barrel.

Looking at new gadgets. Anyone have this? Logitech Alert

You can play “What if” using the “bad” Prosecutor all day long, and in any case. If I see a gun in the guy’s hand or him going for a gun; I’m shooting him. You are asking us to believe that there is a Prosecutor out there that would charge me for shooting an auto burglar that was armed with a gun and drew down on me.... If you believe that…. Don’t carry a gun. There is no absolute protection for you in a shooting. There is also always the possibility that your shoot is right as rain; only to find out you just shot an innocent bystander. Carrying a gun and making decisions about the use of deadly force is a heavy burden. I also don’t have a duty to retreat; even in a property crime.