DaveTN

“HELP US” That’s going to be tough for us and the U.N. to walk away from.

FTFY

As I said I don’t know how things work here, but according to you legislation is for sale and the price you have put on acknowledging the right to bear arms is 32 million dollars. So if someone wrote a check to John Harris for 32 mil what would happen then? (That can’t happen now that the legislation is on the table) I apologize if that sounds harsh but this is the legislation that pro carry folks want. It is within arm’s reach. If you want to blame this on us because we haven’t sent in enough money I would think you might want to bounce that off John Harris first. I’m done with this before I get in trouble. I’m on a pro-gun forum arguing with a representative of the TFA about why legislation to have us takes our place as a Constitutional Carry state can’t pass after it has been proposed. Unbelievable.

The story says he was contacted and asked to come in over two weeks ago; he refused. So much for the timing. He doesn’t want to discuss what the allegations are; so how we to believe there is some great conspiracy at work here? Can the NJ State Police issue an arrest warrant?

I have that ability right now, and it’s perfectly legal. However, if I do it for you it’s a crime and I go to prison.

I want to see the dash cam video and here the exchange that took place. I want to see the cane. Was this a case of the guy getting out on a traffic stop and grabbing his cane to walk, or was this a case of a pizzed of motorist grabbing a weapon from the back of his trunk and then calling it a cane? If that is not obvious; it needs to be answered by a jury.

So were the Muslims the attackers or the victims?

If they can get bail, and they probably will; there won’t be a trial. They will go back to Mexico and the cartels will replace them with someone else.

I don’t think the moon landing was faked; I was being facetious. If you would pay attention to what I am posting instead of being so focused on making personal attacks you would catch those things. I’m not a rocket scientist, but then you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure out whether or not the government or anyone else was involved in a cover up at Sandy Hook. As you can see I’m not the only one that thinks it’s ridiculous, why you getting all butt hurt over my comment?

You are in a thread questioning if Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy of some kind. How serious do you want me to be?

I don’t have a plan. I don’t know any politicians here and have no idea on what will happen with this bill. You are the one with TFA as a forum photo. I do not for the life of me understand why when you have the legislation you claim to want on the table; you are here explaining why it won’t pass. Of course it won’t pass if neither side is for it. No one in this state has the horsepower to make something happen on a 2nd amendment proposal when it’s already on the table?

The landing on the moon could have been faked…. Sandy Hook could not have been.

Negotiate is all they can do. Neither fears the other because they don’t need to. Putin is going to take Crimea and Obama is going to stand by and watch.

Well it won't be with Russia or China.

So you are saying this call for seizures and arrests are coming from some crackpot writers at the paper or some legitimate law enforcement official’s?

Okay, so what are you skeptical of… the 28 dead?     So you don’t believe there were any bodies in there?  

I’m not saying that you or anyone here specifically is calling for a shootout. But let’s face it; that’s what many of these threads are about. Will someone that dies in a shootout with Police that have a warrant to take their guns be seen as hero? I’m sure they will be by some. Will it change anything? You never know; it might…or it might not. What’s happening now in Connecticut? Is the law being challenged in the court? Are the politicians standing behind this law publicly?

Imagine that… The Feds had already targeted Bitcoin; so stick a fork in it.

I’m confused Are you saying that you believe Sandy Hook didn’t happen?

If you want to stoke the fires of a gun fight over this law; go ahead. Why are we so concerned with what is going on in Connecticut when we have legislation of the table that would allow all Tennessee residents to carry? A shootout will not change this law. It will leave families to bury dead gun owners that died as criminals. If cops die they will get a hero’s burial and their families will get death benefits and a pension. I don’t believe this is a majority rule issue. It’s a state issue. The SCOTUS has ruled we have a right to keep arms. They have implied that the State will determine when and where they will be carried and has also left some leeway for the state to limit some weapons. We will have to see if this law is upheld as it works it was through the courts. As far as the respect statement, I respect the opinions of all who post when we are discussing the issues. I’m not pizzed off; I’m just stating facts as I believe them to be or giving my opinion. So until someone lowers themselves to the level of a personal attack on me for something we are discussing; they have my respect even if I don’t agree with them.

If you want to play “What if” let’s look at something close to reality. Carrying a loaded gun in Tennessee is a crime. What about the Officers enforcing that? We have a bill right now to remove that unconditional law from our state. But what do we do? We write letters and we listen to the forum members tell us why this bill can’t pass; politics and usual. We accept that and do nothing. Yet we want to whine and cry like babies because the state can’t force gun rights down the throats of businesses. They can’t do it because they are rights you do not have. We have a Constitutional Carry bill submitted. But apparently we will stand by quietly and watch it die. So we don’t get to judge the people in Connecticut.

We have yet to see if this is what the people of the state of Connecticut want. We will know in the next election if they leave them in office. Lt. Vance is not elected and is not there to make political statements about made up scenarios. I don’t expect him or anyone else to make a statement that would get him fired. As I said before, I doubt very much they actively go looking for guns, they will make the decisions as they run across them. If cops just ignore the law; I doubt we will hear about it. If cops refuse to execute a warrant on someone who is only suspected of having AR’s; we might. If cops refuse to enforce these laws they could be fired immediately. That would be a pretty tough pill to swallow while the legislators would still have their jobs. The cops aren’t the problem here, but some are more than willing to ask them to take the hit.

I'm sure we know. If by "nobody" they mean the press; I doubt that also.

Lt. Paul Vance Handled the call from that nutcase as well as could be expected. If anything he talked to her too long. When he didn’t go along with her idiotic games she reduced the conversations to saying she was the master and he was a servant and talking about black people. He told her the truth; he didn’t have a good answer at this time and that decisions had not been made on this yet. And the title of this thread is just wrong; at no time did he say that.

Nancy Grace is a lunatic. But off the top of my head I can’t think of anyone more deserving of her wrath than Zimmerman. So all is good.