DaveTN

Well it had to. It started off with an old guy being pizzed off, a bunch of old retired happy guys jumped in, and some youngsters are mad that they can’t retire and afraid we are going to spend all their money. So it really had no reservation to wander off of.

No. It just means you will do less prison time when you are convicted of running over others if they are innocent bystanders. Yes, Tennessee expanded the Castle Doctrine to your car. But that only means you have a presumption of innocence against the bad actors. It is a legal presumption and a DA can challenge it. It doesn’t create a free fire zone.

Oh I agree. Should people that are overweight because of their lifestyle draw disability. No, they should have to go to rehab. But I guess in this time of equality; that won’t happen. But it won’t matter if the wrong people (Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, the crew, and the likes) get to call the shots. AOC and her crew thinks everyone should get paid whether they work or not. And if you do work, they want to slap your employer with 12 weeks a year paid vacation. They have no idea how things (money) work. Biden says anyone that can mine coal can program. So why not put some of these people drawing disability in a soft chair and let them program. I’m joking of course; he’s an idiot.

It’s not right Erik. When I was your age it was a non-issue. Most Companies had paid insurance. Industry was paying the bills. But as “A Global Economy” became the buzz word of the times, and our jobs were shipped overseas, American manufacturers had to cut costs; that was an area where they did it. Then Obama came along with his plan and assured everyone they would be able to keep their own plans; they would be unaffected. We all knew he was lying when he said it. It drove private employers costs through the roof; many working people lost their plans. Everyone is looking at a way to have affordable health care. With tax cuts for business and jobs coming back that could possibly happen. Biden has said he will renew the taxes that Trump cut for business. That means less jobs and lower wages to pay the health care bill. Working stiffs like you can afford health care insurance. You just don’t want to pay the exorbitant rates, because the impact would be so great it would mean less of a house, lower priced vehicles, and fewer vacations. But you will pay it because you know the consequences if you don’t. Poor people who can’t pay it won’t pay it, and they won’t lose everything they have because they don’t have anything. Illegals won’t pay their medical bills either; most can’t. So they are going to need you to pay for them as well as yourself. That’s fair isn’t it? Well I guess that depends on whether you believe in a hand up or a handout. Now….I know you won’t agree with any of this. Or agree that your generation got you in the jamb you find yourself it. But history will judge you harshly on what you have done. I don’t have to worry about one of my Grandkids asking “Grandpa, how could you have done this to us?” Can you say the same? (That’s rhetorical )

Yes, they are Police Officers. Two were fired immediately and three are on desk duty pending investigation. Apparently, an Officer yelled “He’s got a gun!” There was no gun. The Officers engaged with the occupants acted recklessly. With someone yelling gun, these people are lucky to be alive.

I would guess if there is video; it will come out. If I was investigating that incident, I would have the phone of the guy that was hit. And I would ask any witnesses to voluntarily give me their phones for inspection. If they refused I would hold them and try to get a warrant. However, I would be trying to find out what really happened. We can only hope the Police and DA are doing that. As far as his job goes…he is a realtor. If he tried to stay with that he would be a pretty easy target. If he was legally justified in what he did; he still will have a tough way to go. This incident is a good example of what we can expect in these times. I’m not saying he was justified, I have no idea, and the only video I’ve seen doesn’t change that.

Not that I have seen.

There already is. They aren't being enforced.

That’s why I posted it, thanks for the info. As I suspected in the prior post, there is good video of him plowing over people, one story even said the dog managed to escape injury, along with claiming the person hit was a “photographer” instead of a protestor. But so far, none of what took place, or what the protestors were doing on his side of the vehicle. I have no idea if he was justified or not, but he’s arrested, charged, and his employer has cut ties. Luckily they allowed him to bond out quickly, that may have not happened somewhere else. Him and his family are in for a world of grief.

Well... here we go in this very situation in Tennessee..... His employer didn’t waste any time in cutting ties with him.

This question has come up before. Often the answer is often “drive away”. Well, that’s common sense, so I assume people are asking about when you can’t drive away, without running over people. Every situation will be different. The bottom line is, would a reasonable person believe you were in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm. Surrounding your car and yelling at you, would not meet that criteria. Someone approaching your car with a gun in their hand, someone threatening you while carrying a rifle or someone breaching your vehicle and trying to grab you, would. However keep in mind that in these situation, even if you are obviously justified, if you happen to get one of these liberal far left DA’s on the case, the chances are very good you are going to trial. There will probably be very little, if any, video of what happened prior, but there will be plenty of video of you running over people. We are now living in a time where in some areas of the country, to some politicians, protecting violent criminal thugs is more important than protecting innocent citizens. I would think that one of the biggest factors to a jury in a questionable case would be “why were you there?” Sure, there could be a situation where you would have to drive through a riot. That shouldn’t be a factor in applying the deadly force laws; but I suspect it would be. Getting a conviction would be hard for a DA that has run amuck in a case like this. You only need one juror to believe you were justified. But that doesn’t mean that DA won’t use his office to financially destroy you.

Well dang Erik…Thank You! Here I thought the 50 years I worked and paid in, and the American Manufacturing industry that I worked in was paying. But it makes me smile to know that I was wrong, and you are carrying me. BTW… I predict that the health care won’t be an issue by the time you retire. But you probably will have to sell your house because you won’t be able to pay the property taxes that are going to be going out of sight.

Violent offenders should go to prison….period. Violent offenders that use deadly weapons should not get out. Once you pick up a gun and decide to point it at another human being during the commission of a crime; there should be no coming back from that. Rehabilitate a person like that? You have got to be kidding me. We need much bigger jails and far more prisons. More people will probably be coming to that realization in the coming years.

I don’t know, but I suspect if you search Nonfeasance, Misfeasance and Malfeasance for those states you might find something. U.S. Marshals or the F.B.I. under the direction of the United States Attorney General could make the arrests. But they shouldn’t try to use troops when they don’t need them. May 4th 1970, Kent State University. 4 dead, 9 wounded, unarmed protestors.

Give the cops a green light. Going nuclear is not necessary. These are punk azz criminals mixed in with some armed rich kids that probably learned last year which end of the barrel the bullet comes out. The fact that they can pull a trigger in a crowd or ambush cops sitting in a car, doesn’t make them military operators. I’m not suggesting that cops underestimate the enemy; I’m saying that when faced with overwhelming force, those that aren’t arrested will retreat like the cowards they are. Most states have criminally laws against politicians failing to act. Especially when innocent citizens die because of it. Those laws need to be enforced. They only thing politicians fear more that not being elected; is going to prison. They don’t think that will happen. They need to be shown they are wrong.

They can’t do their jobs if they don’t get the information from the dispatchers. They aren’t being sent. Should they try it with their coms and other support shut down? Of course not, that would be suicide.

Trump and Barr both need to quit making threats they aren’t prepared to back-up; it shows they are weak. These places don’t need military action; they need their local Police to be uncuffed. Those who ordered them to stand down; need to be charged criminally.

If you have a “conditional proceed” the TBI has made their decision and left it up to the FFL. Unless he is using his discretion to refuse you, and you have submitted more info. Was your son denied? If not, and the FFL stopped the transaction without submitting it; there isn’t anything you can do.

Like you, I don’t expect the election to be decided right away. But I expect it to be decided shortly after January 3rd when the new congress is seated. I don’t see any way it can’t be. I also expect the mail in voting to be corrupt. But I suspect if that is proven it would also just send it to the Congress. I never thought we would be where we are now in my lifetime. I’m as prepared as I can be to protect my family and property. But not prepared for a lack of food. I doubt though the violence would last that long. Mother Nature could cause me to leave my property; but I’ll not leave due to civil unrest. Financially I’m Okay, but if Biden is elected and the economy takes a big hit, which I'm sure would happen; that could change. But to answer your question about being concerned. I’m very concerned that law enforcement is failing to act. And I blame them for that. And I never thought I would see that either.

Looks like the gray handled one might be a 1970 MARK II COMBAT. The black handled one appears to be a Guardian II made after 82 as a R.W Loveless knife.

They look like Gerber MKII’s. But its tough to tell anything about them without being able to read all the markings. I downloaded the pic to try to blow it up, but the resolution is too low.

I have tried an AR Pistol, twice. I found the same thing with them. For me, without a stock its pretty much useless as a rifle, and there are way better choices in handguns. It would probably be good for short range CQC, but that wasn’t my application.

I couldn’t find any .45 Colt range ammo. Saw a couple of boxes of $2.00 a round SD ammo. I doubt many people are stocking up on .45 Colt for SD, so I assume the ammo MFG’s are cranking out more common SD and range rounds.

Moving back? So… they moved their entire operation to the rented facility here? It would be really interesting to know what the incentive to move back to Florida is. Of course, we probably will never find that out.

If Biden gets elected, I doubt there will be a box of ammo anywhere at Thanksgiving, probably not many guns either. Not that he will be able to do anything with ammo, but there will be plenty of overreaction.