DaveTN

Nevermind.

He was right.

Two shots ain't very "tacticool"

We would all like to have a blueprint of what the law requires in any given situation to determine if we can legally use deadly force. We don’t have that. The closest we have is this… Deadly force is justified if a reasonable person believes deadly force is required to prevent death or great bodily harm.”. There are many variations on that wording. We have these discussions/arguments/bickering all the time here. And that’s a good thing. People need to understand all the ins and outs. Two of the most misunderstood terms I see in these discussions is usually “Castle Doctrine” and “Duty to Retreat”. The Castle Doctrine does not create a free fire zone; you can still be charged. And Tennessee doesn’t need to tell you that you don’t have a duty to retreat because as best I can tell; they never had had that as a requirement. Those laws are generally in states that at one time had a duty to retreat. “Reasonable Person” is a Judge or jury, if you go to trial. They will decide if what you did was “reasonable”. What you did will be judged by strangers that will make decisions that could alter your life and the lives of your family. The responding Officers, The investigators, The DA, and ultimately a Judge or Jury, that have hours or even months to decide what you had to decide in seconds will determine your fate. Every case is different. Times are changing. In the past when a criminal got killed committing a violent act; no one really cared. Nowadays if it’s a cop doing the killing; the left wants them charged even when they were clearly in danger. And we have seen that happen when it shouldn’t have. They will certainly apply that same standard to armed citizens killing criminals. “It’s better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6” is a stupid statement. It’s better to not be charged, period. If you are charged with murder you will get exactly the amount of justice you can afford. That would financially destroy most of us.

How in the world did how to handle burglars turn into a rehashing of the North Vs. the South??

When I started as a Police Officer; we had those laws. Tennessee v. Garner ended that.

What is RBM?

Obviously you can’t. But is sure does look like that Florida law can be used to convict you of a felony if you use them to increase the rate of fire of your firearm.

Flipping off a cop is stupid. A cop thinking he can stop a car with no probable cause is stupid. But teach your kids that it probably won’t work out as well for them as it did for that woman.

I remember in the 80’s when people in Miami were disconnecting their car horns because people were being shot for honking at others in traffic. Crazy people are everywhere.

I disagree, my opinion is that attempting to break his window and forcibly entering his vehicle, justified the use of deadly force. But…. that’s just my opinion. Good thing he didn’t have to find out.

What is the rate of fire using a rubber band? Can it mimic 13 rounds a second. JM can do 5 rounds a second with an AR.

Absolutely! But I would bet it cost you a lot to get Jerry Miculek for your expert witness.

I don’t know how fast you can fire using a rubber band, but if this statement applied… It could be.

I feel the same way about the Tennessean, but both them and the AP are saying they have documents. So I’m guessing they may have the Police reports.

The Tennessean is running the same story, claiming they have obtained documents.

According to him it will be a busy day. Personally I think after all the inauguration festivities; he’ll go back and nap the rest of the day and not do anything. But as you say, we shall see.

Exactly. And that’s why Bernie Sanders would do a 180 degree spin so fast it would make your head spin if he was ever the nominee. His gun control ideas would be as outlandish as all the rest of his Socialist ideas.

I don’t know, but I suspect that will be in proposed legislation soon. Will it pass? Who knows. But I suspect it will be worded so broadly as to cover most any aftermarket trigger. I didn’t know Florida passed a law like that. Do you have a link to the specifics?

Ha, ha, ha I appreciate it when vendors have the option of picking “Show in stock only” and everything disappears so you don’t have to waste your time looking. They do have a lot of .223 though; if you want to pay nearly a buck a round or more.

In 1978 my new S&W Model 19 cost $175. That’s $726 in todays dollars, or about what a 686 cost pre-CRB.

So if you are the seller for a gun part on GB for $50 and someone in Tennessee buys it, and you have to charge state sales tax, is there some dollar limit on how much you have to have before you have to file? Do you have to file if $3.50 is all you collected? What if you just didn’t bill the buyer in Tennessee sales tax? Seems to me I thought I saw someone that there was a dollar limit for buyers when sales tax hadn’t been collected before they had to submit taxes?

I absolutely think you did the right thing. From your description, you were justified in using deadly force, but you didn’t because you didn’t need to. You then reported it to the Police. I don’t know how anyone could second guess that, and I wouldn’t care if they did. Good for you, you survived it without taking a life or having to go through an investigation.

No

.38 Special has been killing people for a long time. I don’t know how humane of a kill it would be, but I see no reason it wouldn't take down a deer.