DaveTN

Oswald fired three shots at 60 to 90 yards and killed the President. Nothing more to it than that.

Thanks guys, it looks like The Model 70 Supergrade in .243 might be just what I’m looking for in a current production model. Looks like they switched manufacturing to Portugal about 4 years ago. I’ll have to see if I can find out what that did to the quality level. The X-Bolt is another option it’s also offered in .223; the Supergrade is not. I already have a .308 so I’m trying to decide between .223 and .243. I’m thinking the advantage of .223 is that and already have that caliber in other rifles and there are plenty of ammo options. I have never owned a .243 and it would be adding a new caliber. I don’t hunt these; are range toys. I’m really surprised Savage doesn’t have an offering. The 14/114 is close but it’s a matt blue. I guess either the EPA regulations or the fact that high gloss blue requires a polished finish is causing it to die out.

Do your comments apply to the Model 70 that appears now to be made in Portugal?

Good finds. It looks like the BDL and Model 70 Super Grade may be what I’m looking for. I guess I assumed since the CDL was a matte blue, they didn’t offer high gloss blue, but the BDL does say “Polished blue”. I would try a Savage, but all I saw was “Matte”. Around $1K for new is in my price range; $2K is not.

Are there any modern production rifles that meet these requirements? Bolt action Fancy walnut stock, no laminates. High gloss blue finish, no flat blue. .223, .243, .308

What is an "unusual high-powered weapons for hunting"?

I’ve never got a definitive answer for this, so I’ll ask again. I love the old school quality walnut stocks. I have a Remington VLS 308 with a heavy barrel and a laminate stock. If I found a walnut stock from a 700 SA would the HB fit in the stock channel? I don’t have a regular barrel 700 to determine if the barrel diameter where the stock ends is the same as the heavy barrel. Maybe someone with a 700 BDL or CDL with a regular barrel and a pair of calipers could give me a barrel diameter where the stock ends. My barrel is .880" diameter approx. 10.75” from where the barrel meets the receiver.

After being a cop I use to joke that I always carried bond money. But it really wasn’t completely a joke; I’ve seen too many people need it and not have it. Now I keep cash in case I run across a gun for sale; and can make the deal right on the spot. I also use a credit card for everything I can. Cash back. But I pay it off every month so I have no charges. No, the stores would just make that much more profit.

None of these government conspiracy theories have any credibility; not one. I feel for the Sherriff. He is trying to do what’s right by the public and the families of the victims. Maybe he should have followed the FBI’s example; called it an “ongoing investigation” and not said anything. Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.

Local gun store are already struggling to compete with the big boys online. Increasing their costs won’t help. There are things that could be done to help catch these guys. But because several Counties are involved it will require a group effort. Early morning hours with not much moving is risky; my guess is they are feeding a drug habit.

At one time you had to be a paid member to maintain original quality of photos on Google Drive. Has that changed?

Doug if all you want to do is backup some pictures as cheap as possible; I would bet a 64GB USB drive would do the trick. Office Depot or Walmart… here are a couple around $20. https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/562566/Lexar-JumpDrive-S75-USB-30-Flash/ https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/211809/PNY-USB-20-Flash-Drive-64GB/ If you want to spend $110 you can image your entire computer. Then if you have a hard drive crash, you simply replace the hard drive and restore from the image. No reloading of Windows and all your programs; it’s more expensive but it’s a total backup and a pretty simple restore in the case of a disaster. $50 for Acronis software, $60 for a 1TB external hard drive. It can be set-up to backup daily, weekly; whatever you want. There is free backup software; but its reliability is questionable. Acronis is a proven performer. https://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/buy-backup/ https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/754055/WD-My-Passport-Portable-External-Hard/ Just remember backup is also about redundancy. Hard drives fail; all types all price ranges. Everyone learns about backups. Some after a disaster they can’t recover from, some before.

Keeping emotion out of this I don’t foresee the courts, both state and Federal, having any problem finding that putting a bump stock on meets the definition of a machine gun. The problem with the ATF regulating them (As in Class 3) is that they don’t have anything to authorize them to okay a machine gun made after 1968 for private ownership. What we heard in the video, as a few here stated, was an automatic weapon. You can make all the arguments that you want about whether or not we should be able to have automatic weapons, but the argument that that those weapons weren’t automatic won’t stand. Thats just my opinion on the law. The ATF can say anything they like, but the courts can overrule them. I don’t believe the higher courts will support them on this. Now, as far as whether or not you should be able to own a machine gun; the intent of the 2nd amendment is not so that you can hunt, target shoot, or even protect yourself and your family. It’s to keep the people from being disarmed and not have the ability to stand against a tyrannical government. That is it’s only purpose. Common sense tells me that we would need fully automatic weapons to make that stand.

Buying a new barrel; or even a new gun.

I think it’s weird that he is even talking to the MSM.

You would need a lot of money that you would probably lose. You would need a SCOTUS ruling that everyone can strap on a gun (permit or not) and the state can’t do anything. Although not a ruling yet, the SCOTUS has indicated they believe states have the right to have reasonable restrictions on "Carry" in place. The SCOTUS just refuses to hear the cases. At that point you have to abide by whatever Federal District ruling is in place where you are. Buying a privilege from a state should never give a person any kind of Constitutional protection that all other citizens don't have.

Freedom of speech is alive and well. So are the consequences of that speech. A lesson many need to learn.

How did you explain the difference in the end result between a bump fire and a full auto?

Good to know. The wife got involved (Coupons, codes, points, you know the drill) and I ended up ordering these: https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-1177015/ja-henckels-international-forged-premio-17-pc-cutlery-set.jsp?prdPV=1

The card may well have been a ballistics chart. But that doesn’t mean anything. He didn’t need it and it would have meant little using a bump fire stock, or spray and pray. 400 yards might be tough if you are trying to shoot a bullseye at the range, but it is nothing when your target is a massive crowd of people. He didn’t even really need sights or optics; point and shoot (which is what I think he was doing) would do fine. I don’t understand why anyone thinks this clown had to have training. I also don’t understand why anyone thinks he had to have help. The thing that bothers me the most about this (besides the obvious senseless loss of life) is the reporters focusing on “why did he have so many guns and rounds of ammunition?” Many people have more than he had. I am lucky enough to have a lot. I don’t have a lot of the same gun, but my collection is application driven. I try to have a gun for each application. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with those that collect one particular type of gun. I don’t try to hide it, I don’t care if there are records of my purchases, and I register most new guns with the manufacturers for warranty purposes. I know that bothers many people; and that’s fine for them. If I thought anyone would ever been coming for my guns; I wouldn’t do that. But I don’t believe that will ever happen.

I’m just glad someone is going to check with me to see if I think bumpstocks are okay.

Galco and Bianchi both have them I haven’t used a shoulder holster in many years, but I have never been disappointed in leather from either of them.

Some states will flat out refuse. I don’t think it will pass muster with the SCOTUS unless they are ready to rule anyone has a 2nd amendment right to carry a gun without a permit. Otherwise it’s going to remove carry laws from the states and hand them to the Feds.

Thanks for the replies. Now I have to decide if I want need one or both.