TGO David

Invision Power released a new version of the software and then quickly deprecated one of the components that every IPBoard forum running the previous version used to "call home". When they did this, it started throwing that template error. I've upgraded us to the latest version of the software to fix that and take advantage of a myriad of other fixes and tweaks.

Really one of the sillier laws, but I suspect the intended application of the law was to keep kids from bringing knives to school for nefarious purposes. As we know, Lady Justice is supposed to be blind and apply the law equally to all, so you got the brunt end of it even as a responsible adult. Of course... none of this stops kids from bringing knives, guns, or any other contraband to schools as we've all well seen.

This year's conference has been... interesting. I will post more of my thoughts about the organizational developments tonight or tomorrow after we return home. Any opinion pieces that you read right now, including my own, are subject to information on-hand at the instant they are written. The NRA's organizational environment has been tremendously dynamic since Wednesday and watching it transpire has been like watching a very sordid tennis match. Lots of looking to the left, looking to the right, looking back to the left, etc. The exhibit floor has been a ton of fun, though. Hosting the Shooters Nation Podcast (link) for the past year has given me the good fortune to get to know quite a few people inside of the industry and opened the door to get to know many more at NRAAM this week. I'm really looking forward to sitting down with numerous movers and shakers in the firearms world in the weeks ahead and sharing those conversations with you all. Much fun! Also, I've blown up Shooters Nation's Instagram feed with photos of new and cool stuff from the show. Check it out here: https://instagram.com/shootersnationradio I'm going over to the show one last time this morning to see anything that I missed, then heading home.

Also to add, I posted quite a bit on the TGO Facebook page yesterday.

You guys are only seeing the pieces of it making it out to the media this weekend. I think almost all of it will eventually see the light of day, but what's happening in the meetings and hallways here at the NRA Annual Meeting is exponentially more electric than what you're seeing on the news outlets. Follow Rob Pincus on social media. He's doing a really good job of keeping the folks not in Indianapolis informed. I'll post my own thoughts later tonight or tomorrow. We're prepping for a few final hours at NRAAM before packing the family back up in the truck and heading home for Tennessee this afternoon.

I will be but I doubt they’re going to talk any about it. I’d like to get in touch with Jeff Knox and have him on the podcast soon.

Just FYI... NRAAM 2020 is back in Nashville!

It's been a minute since I've seen you. I'm not sure I'd recognize you!

Yeah that's a no-win situation!

I'll be at the NRA Annual Meeting (NRAAM) this Friday and Saturday. Who else is going? If you're not going, what would you like to see photos and/or video of?

I stand corrected about the Romeo-1 not having anything to co-witness with. I apparently didn't search hard enough for a rear image of the sight. That said, I am still told that the front sight that comes with the X-Compact is not tall enough to accurately cowitness against the notch in the rear sight. At 3-5 yards, is anyone really aiming and why would you need a red dot for that?

I was initially somewhat interested in the X-Compact until I realized that you eliminate the rear iron sights when you put the Romeo red-dot optic on it. Why in the world they designed it this way is beyond me. FN manages to keep the rear iron sight with the 509 Tactical and everyone under the sun can mill a Glock 19 or M&P slide to accept an RMR and still use a thinner rear iron sight. Also worth noting is that the front irons don't co-witness with anything on the Romeo when you install it, so if your red dot goes down you are going to have to improvise. Swapping it for a taller sight does nothing for you since, again, there is no rear iron or anything to align it with on the Romeo. Lastly, I am not a fan of the Romeo-1 optic. I'd rather install a Trijicon RMR or Leupold Delta Point Pro. Reportedly the Romeo-1 shares the same footprint as the Leupold DPP but the DPP is a hair longer in front of the mounting screws which means it won't fit on the Sig X-Compact or X-Carry. This is a serious "WTF Sig?" moment for me. You could have the optic's pocket milled slightly longer to allow the DPP to fit, but it sucks to have to do that. They came REALLY close to building a gun I'd want to have with the Sig X-Compact, but then fumbled the ball on such simple yet critical features.

Words fail at times like this. I'm very sorry. My prayers will be with you and your family.

Let me state first that I am not picking on you here. You simply made some statements that are a good segue into something we all need to talk about. That said, I think you are entirely correct that people aren't wholesale rushing to turn them in or destroy them. Perhaps that's because there are still some lawsuits against the government pending that haven't been decided upon yet and owners of these devices are reluctant to destroy something today that, while illegal, might be taken back off of the prohibited items list tomorrow. Or perhaps it really is just an act of civil disobedience and the folks that own these are silently giving the government a defiant middle finger. And, you know, our nation was founded on that principle so I can't fault anyone who's operating under that mindset. It's in our DNA and resonates with me pretty deeply. BUT... the fact remains that bump stocks are, currently at least, lumped into the same category as a machinegun and there was no provision granted to grandfather them in, or allow citizens to register them as NFA-regulated devices and legitimize them with a tax stamp. They are, therefore, illegal to own and discovery of ownership carries hefty fines and potentially imprisonment. Now, does that mean that the BATFE is going to go door to door looking for bump stocks? Highly unlikely. But what it does mean is that a citizen's bump stock could be discovered by coincidence during a search or seizure for another crime, and now that citizen would very likely be charged with a Federal firearms crime that carries heavy penalties. Even if the original reason for the search or seizure was a misdemeanor crime. Say, like getting pulled over for running a stop sign and the officer feels that there's reason to search your vehicle for contraband and finds a bump stock you forgot about in the trunk of your car. Or, if you really want to make it realistic, say your spouse or significant other accuses you of domestic violence -- whether founded or not -- and the police come to your home to investigate. Suppose in the course of that they find your secret stash of bump stocks. Now you're facing the same sort of penalties that former Nashville-area KIA hockster Christopher Bostick was hit with back in 2015 and finally sentenced for just last year. Bostick was investigated for a domestic issue originally, but the police found two "sub machineguns", neither of which were properly registered to him under NFA laws. Instant felony charges. You can read about that here: https://www.wsmv.com/news/former-nashville-kia-dealer-sentenced-on-gun-charges/article_2ecbc3e6-3e2a-5666-9f79-db4d438ca394.html So, the bottom line here is that anyone who continues to own a bump stock needs to engage in a serious soul-searching exercise. While I think that the current power-grab by the Trump administration regarding these devices is egregious, unconstitutional, abhorrent, and hopefully will be struck down by the Supreme Court, I am also a realist and suspect it won't be and these devices will never again see legal ownership in the United States. Keeping one around as a middle finger at the government is a personal choice. Some of our founding fathers likely would approve of it too. But they also had to do some soul-searching when they stood up to the King of England, and many of them paid terribly high prices for it even though it earned the rest of us freedom and a new country. I question whether modern Americans are really patriot-enough to risk everything the way that those men did.

I seriously didn't realize you could do it between threads. Nice!

I am working on a feature that will allow our members to contribute to a database of Gun Shops, FFL Transfer Agents, Gunsmiths, Shooting Ranges, and Training Providers. You may see bits and pieces of it "leak" ahead of time but you generally won't have access to any of them until it's 100% ready. I hope to finalize it this weekend.

I cannot confirm this. In fact, I confirmed that I was able to multi-quote across several pages. What browser are you using? https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/107515-font-size-changed/?do=findComment&comment=1527102

@Oh Shoot This was a multi-quote using posts from two different pages.

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Check. How crazy are you about the new PVD finish on the Gen 5? I think it's too slick. I've toyed with the idea of sending my slide off to have front cocking serrations added and either carbon black Cerakote or black nitrided finish put on it instead.

They're everywhere, man. Everywhere.

Does the ambidextrous slide stop interfere somehow with your grip while shooting? I'm curious as to why you'd want to remove it as, aesthetically, it would leave a hole in the other side of the frame. I assume you are right handed?

A federal ban on bump stocks has gone into effect today, Tuesday, March 26, 2019. Issued by the United States Justice Department in December, the rule decided that existing prohibitions against fully automatic weapons also covered bump stocks. Those in possession of the attachments were given 90 days to turn them in or destroy them. That period ended yesterday, March 25th. If you are now found in possession of a bump stock you may face the same penalties as anyone found illegally in possession of a non-registered, non-transferable machine gun. Namely, you can be punished by fines and up to ten (10) years in prison per count. Unlike transferable machine guns sold to civilians prior to May 19, 1986, which may still legally be bought and sold by private individuals on the secondary market so long as all National Firearms Act rules are followed and the requisite Federal taxes paid (aka Tax Stamps), bump stocks owned prior to March 26, 2019, are not being grandfathered in. Private individuals may not continue to possess them and are required to have previously surrendered them to the BATFE or permanently destroy them according to guidelines provided by the BATFE. Those guidelines can be found at the following link, and an attachment of the document (current as of 03/26/2019) is also attached to this post. https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/bump-stocks/how-to-destroy We here at TGO HQ are, of course, dismayed by the way that this has developed and hope that rational, calmer minds prevail and that the US Supreme Court will strike down this ruling as the gross overreach of power that it is. Until that happens, continuing to possess one of these items is of course done at your own risk. If you have further information that you feel should be included in this thread, send me a Private Message and I will add it - subject to review. bump_fire_stocks_and_devices_destruction_diagram_12-27-18.pdf

Yep but I feel like we need to pack the first post with a bunch of pertinent information. Maybe we can create a new thread specifically for that and then banner it.

I was wondering if anyone read those status updates as the day progressed.