TGO David

I think appearing to be alert / vigilant could help, but I also think that sometimes people mistakenly assume that they should walk around with a scowl or other "hardass" look ... which invites trouble.

Wow. Just wow. Been reading through Horsely's blog for the past few minutes and have been sitting here just shaking my head in sad amazement.

Welcome!

He already got rid of the 1911?????

"Frankly, going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisy baggage behind." --Jed Babbin

Your cool points will drop by about 20,000 when you tuck that thing into the waistband of your pants and carry it Mexican style. Assuming your pants can hold the weight of it up.

Too cool.

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beUQBXI22CA[/ame] Pretty funny stuff.

Reposted from elsewhere... Friday, March 23, 2007 why the gun is civilization. Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender. There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act. Posted by Marko at 7:06 AM

Wow... after that diatribe I think I'm going to go hang myself with my own underwear unless someone sends me an FTD Pick Me Up Bouquet and does it stat. You're a ray of sunshine, Len.

By the way... back to the original topic of this thread. The guy in the mag change video is wicked fast. I can't see where having the speed and agility to reload like that could possibly be a bad thing even in a real life combat situation. Is it imperative that a person possess that ability in order to defend themself? Absolutely not. But you've gotta admit that once you have muscle memory like THAT programmed into your lizard brain, the odds of you fumble f###ing a reload under stress are significantly decreased. By the way, after shooting with a few really fast folks in a few USPSA matches, I can safely say that there are some "Gamers" (to use the term of distaste that I see thrown about so often) out there who I absolutely wouldn't want to get into a firefight with. The really good ones absolutely know how to shoot on the move, shoot from cover, and put a boatload of lead into a small space in a really short period of time. Sometimes I wonder if the people who sneer at "gaming" have ever really gone and watched mid and high level matches.

I don't have a pony in this show... but it seems to me that what defines a person as being a "warrior" is what they do with all of their fancy training combined with whatever innate reflexive willpower they have to overcome the adversary when the proverbial **** hits the fan. If they rise to the occasion, then that suggests to me that there is a warrior within them. If they shrink from confrontation (hide in a ditch, run like a girl in the opposite direction, etc.) then that tells me they're full of crap and should STFU. I don't think all warriors have been soldiers, but I do think that the best soldiers have been real warriors. Just my 2 cents.

In this thread, post your favorite gun related quotes. They can be from books, movies, authors, famous persons, history... whatever. Here's one I read earlier that made me think of starting this thread: A reporter in Iraq, asked a Soldier what he felt when he shot and killed the enemy. "Recoil" said the Soldier.

Welcome, Allen. As a Floridian gun owner, what is your opinion of that state's gun laws?

Welcome! I think you'll enjoy your Glock. I had a chance to fire one of the G36's a while back and found it to pack more than enough punch for the job.

Honestly I think most of these kids don't have much of a parental influence in their homes so they are raised by television, video games and/or the streets. If they are lucky they might have a single mom but many probably have no clue who their dad is and have had nothing but a string of unsteady male role models in their life. Color me a narrow minded bastard, but I'm starting to think that a qualification for being on welfare ought to be mandatory temporary chemical sterilization so that you can't procreate while on the government nickel. /puts on flame suit and waits for the replies

I swear, it's seriously the kids who scare me more than the adults these days. A lot of kids just don't have any moral "stops" in their character that tells them that some things shouldn't be done.

Man, I miss my Kimber... but I'm glad it went to someone who will put it to good use. Regarding the broken Kimbers, etc., I never had any problems out of my Tac Pro II at all. Ever. It fired everything I fed it and never complained, never jammed, never hiccuped. But recently I did notice a few posts over on the 1911.org forums regarding some problems folks were having with Kimber customer service. I can't help but hope that they are just isolated incidents rather than some new "norm" up at Kimber's New York HQ. One of these days I might own another.

Larry, we're equally glad to have you here with us. Make yourself at home!

Welcome!

Welcome! G&L is a great facility. I've had the pleasure of shooting there once and dealing with Dennis a few times now.

You guys are missing the humor in that cartoon.

... Combat Tupperware! I've owned both. I like both. I just don't happen to own a Glock right now but wouldn't kick a G23 out of the house if one happened to just show up.

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