TGO David

You're gonna shoot your ass off! </A Glock Christmas Story>

I congratulate you on having a good M&P. We'll own another one soon; I just don't anticipate carrying it.

The Decision... After a lot of thought I have decided to retire the HK P2000 and move to the Glock 19. The reasons for this are exactly as I stated previously. To summarize the more important details: I shoot better with the Glock than I do the HK I am more accurate with it My follow-up shots are faster and more precise The trigger reset on the Glock is more to my taste [*]I can afford to practice more often with the 9mm than .40SW [*]Glock mags, holsters, etc. are plentiful [*]Glock armorers are plentiful I just so happen to own a Glock armorers course DVD The HK is a fantastic weapon. It's also not for me. That's the beauty of there being so many different makes and models to choose from; you don't have to stick with just one platform that may not be right for you. I gave the HK a year and improved with it quite a bit, but at the end of the day it just wasn't the firearm for me. Your mileage might vary. I don't have the Glock yet but will be picking one up soon. Commence flaming me.

Congrats! The hardest part now awaits... Mailbox Guard Duty.

I'm just not much of a gamer.

Thought this was funny.

Heh... Joe @ Hero Gear demo'd a neat-ass 10/22 rifle for me once with supressor and buffer in the bolt assembly. The only thing you could hear was the subsonic round smacking the plastic 5-gallon bucket a few yards away.

My Smith #442 is not a Airweight but she's welcome to try it. It's virtually the same gun but with a steel frame. The Airweights are scandium frame gus and the light weight makes the recoil quite a handful.

It sounds like you have their CTAC or other full-kydex holster. The MTAC that I recommended is a leather / kydex hybrid and does away with the need for molehair on the kydex.

My sarcasm meter just exploded.

I had an XD 9mm SC in the past. Hated it.

There's a pink Millennium on Gunbroker right now for $155 with no reserve. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=98902831

I never had a problem with my M&P 40 but my 40c dropped mags a lot and the 9c locked back prematurely just about every other magazine put through it. Sometimes more than once per mag. Neither were problems you want to have with a carry gun.

I bet you typed that on a PC assembled in America made from parts manufactured in China, Korea and Japan. Glock and HK both have presence in the continental United States. It's hard to buy a product strictly based on geographical point of origin. That said, however, I am still really rooting for S&W to get good traction with the M&P line and get past the nagging little issues that tormented quite a few of the early adopters. There are times that I miss my M&Ps. I had three of them, you know.

The M&P is good but Smith and Wesson had quit a few flubs with their freshman year outing on those guns that have kept me from having total confidence in them just yet. Slides locking back prematurely, magazines dropping free at random (reportedly a fixed issue now but I've read varying reports on just how fixed it is) and more than a few instances of the Melonite finish not holding up very well and the gun corroding quite heavily as a result. Would I own one? YES. I really like them and I want to own the 9-Pro or 9-L once the become available. It will be my next "gamer" gun and the XD Tactical will go on the auction block. But I won't carry one daily again until I see proof with my own eyes that the aforementioned problems are resolved. Furthermore, I found that the 4" service models were slightly too big for carry and that the 3" compact models were slightly undersized for me to want to shoot them for extended periods of time at the range. The Glock 19/23 and the HK P2000 are the ideal size for me to want to carry and practice with. If my wife were thinking about carrying the M&P she wants, I'd steer her a different direction also. It's going to be her range toy, so I'm not too worried if jams up or drops a mag since S&W has a lifetime warranty with free shipping to and from. It's just that a carry gun does you no good if it's hosing up or is away at the factory.

Sounds kind of like a Glock 19 is in my future doesn't it?

Funny fact... I had the .40SW LEM first. I even did the spring swap on it. I was even worse of a shot with that gun than I am the V3. I hated it.

Hmmm. May have to bring my .30-06 just to keep it from rusting.

One of the first things I do for any handgun that I might ever conceivably carry is order a holster from Comp-Tac. The ship time is usually sub one week. Even if I end up buying a more expensive holster later, the fact that Comp-Tac can get them to me so quickly is a huge selling point.

I was explaining to my wife just a few minutes ago that I had always been of the mentality that carrying a .40SW meant carrying a better defensive round (compared to the 9mm) and that it allowed me more capacity (than my 1911s). If I wanted to shoot cheap, I'd shoot my 9mm at the range. The problems with that way of thinking have been: 1. She hogs my 9mm right now because she doesn't have one of her own, thus forcing me to shoot the guns with more expensive ammo 2. I'm practicing way more with guns that I *don't* carry than with the ones that I do when I shoot the 1911s and forsake the .40SW HK (because I don't enjoy shooting it as much). If the P2000 was the 9mm V3, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. I'd force myself to adjust to it's characteristic quirks and be happily shooting cheaper ammo for practice and carrying Gold Dots for self-defense, but in the same gun. Really not feeling the argument that 9mm will get taxed out the ceiling with a change at the White House just because it's popular. I think we'll see all ammo get taxed heavily if Clinton or Obama win, along with other sweeping anti-gun changes. 9mm NATO will always be plentiful. Decisions, decisions.

Guys the problem pretty much centers around increased spam sensitivity with many ISPs and the fact that our SMTP outgoing mail server is "virtualized" rather than having an IP address that points directly back to mail.tngunowners.com. I am going to work toward fixing this problem in the next week or two. I've known what the problem was since the outset but have been looking and hoping for an easier fix. None of the easy things have worked so it's time for me to build a dedicated mail host on our web server. Not a big deal, just wasn't the answer I was hoping for. That's life. I'll get it fixed because it's annoying to all of us; me included.

Huge fan of the Comp-Tac MTAC holsters here.

Did someone say they wanted those pictures? He had to model like that in order to become a moderator.

You read it right. I am having a bit of trouble deciding which way to go here. So let me state the facts right off the bat so that you can help me make the right decision. HK P2000 .40SW DA/SA Same size as the Glock 19 Has a heavy DA trigger which makes it "safer" Typical Germanic over-engineering for durability Adjustable grip swells, but I stick with Medium anyway so that's moot I'm not as good of a shot with it as I am the Glock I hate the long reset of the P2000 trigger. It is not intuitive for me at all. My grip style tends to make my strong thumb ride the slide release, preventing slide lock back on empty. .40SW target ammo is about $10 more per 100rds than 9mm target Glock 19 9mm Same size as the HK P2000 Striker-fired means the trigger pull is the same all the time Trigger safety is arguably not much of a safety at all (see: Glock Leg) Simplicity of design makes it rugged as hell also Grip is non adjustable but fits me perfectly I shoot 10x better with the Glock than I do the HK. Trigger reset is perfect to me. Very fast, controlled, accurate follow-up shots. I can buy three boxes of 9mm target ammo for every two boxes I buy of .40SW target ammo I really don't buy into the idea that .40SW is more effective than 9mm for the vast majority of self defense shootings Parts for the Glock are plentiful and cheap. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Glock armorer. Basically it amounts to this: If I get the Glock I am not going to keep the HK. I just don't see having one solitary .40SW handgun in the mix when I would likely never carry or shoot it, favoring the Glock instead for both. But admittedly the "Gun Snob" in me says that the HK is the "better" firearm even though that goes against conventional wisdom that says the better firearm is the one you shoot the most and shoot the most accurately. For me, that would be the Glock. Thoughts? PS: I'm loving my MacBook too.

I'd wait and look at the new M&P 45c (compact) as suggested by others in this thread. The 4-inch M&P 45 is nice but it's still a tad large for concealment in my opinion.