TGO David

+1 for a very good post.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this yet or not... but night sights are generally just all around better than the sights most manufacturers put on their guns from the factory. Even if you use your weapon for 99.9999999% daytime shooting, they are a worthwhile investment. Take factory Glock sights for example. No, really... take them!

#1 - The cops and ATF are going to ask a private citizen where the gun they were in possession of came from also. #2 - The private citizen is also going to be out the money they paid for the gun if it is confiscated. And perhaps have their ass in the sling also. #3 - If you are incorporated, you as an employee or officer of the company are less liable than the corporation itself is. If you are not incorporated, then you are as culpable as Joe Citizen. Really it sounds to me like what you're saying is that what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Unless the gander is off the clock and buying/selling privately.

I laughed at this one. A lot. Shatner RULES.

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How would one go about this?

It's called "plausible deniability" and I like to have it when I transfer a firearm to a buyer. I want them to be able to prove who sold it to them [me] and I want to be able to prove who I sold it to [them]. You can also lie on BATFE form #4473 about those things. You will probably get caught by the TBI instant check, but you might luck out. The bottom line for me is that if you refuse to complete and sign that form, I'm going to refuse to sell the weapon to you.

Welcome, Brad. My wife has family in Spring Hill so we are over there quite a bit and hope to maybe move closer to that area sometime soon. Owl Hollow is a nice facility and I think that you'll enjoy your membership quite a bit. As for HCP classes... my wife just took hers from Todd & Dustin at "CIS" in Smyrna. She really enjoyed it and the information they gave went well beyond the basics that Tennessee requires. You can see my review here (click) and get more information about CIS here (click). Based on her reports and how well she did, I'll be recommending them to anyone within driving distance of Smyrna from now on.

People who refuse to use a FTF form or bill of sale make me think twice about selling to them. And there is no such thing as a gun that is "off the radar" unless it is one you built yourself. All guns have an owner and a history attached to them at some point, on some document, somewhere.

Everyone should read this reply and take heed... There is actually, ongoing at this moment, a situation involving a person that I am aware of who purchased a firearm from someone else in a face-to-face deal and did not receive a bill of sale. This transaction involves two people who came together as buyer and seller after a for-sale post on an Internet forum! The buyer ended up having to use the firearm in a self defense situation. When the police did the normal investigation that follows one of these events, they found that the firearm in question had been stolen. The seller denied ever having sold the firearm to the buyer. There was no bill of sale to back up the seller's claim, so the buyer could end up facing some serious jail time as the result of owning a stolen firearm. The assumption being that without evidence to prove otherwise, there is now reasonable suspicion that the buyer stole the firearm himself. So what would have been an otherwise justified use of force in self-defense has now turned into a legal nightmare for an innocent party. If that's the kind of thing you want to set yourself up for, then by all means you should do private, off the record transactions with people who refuse to sign the form that we've provided or refuse to provide you with a bill of sale. People like Kiwkrnu or The Rabbi who like things "off the radar".

Hahah... does that happen a lot in Turdville, TN?

**** happens? Literally?

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And by foul mood I would add that most GOP voters are going to stay home rather than cast a vote for McCain (RINO) or throw away their votes on a 3rd party.

Really? [ame] [/ame]Sounds like he is pretty hell bent on disarming America. It's no secret he'd like to do the same to you and I individually as he is already on record as wanting to forbid gun shops to exist within a 15 mile radius of any school. Think about that. 15 miles. You'd be out of work.

If you can stomach the "convenience fee" you can find them on eBay for about $75-100 over retail cost with immediate shipping. Or you may luck into one if you watch the For Sale areas on big forums like Glocktalk, 1911.org, etc.

Well, that's not until next month... so that gives me time.

I tried that angle. I should have given a Mother's Day present it seems.

But I'm seriously dropping some mega hints about what I want for my birthday.

You are absolutely right. I hadn't even thought about it, but these people are everywhere and inside every social circle. I used to deal with it all the time when I had an '03 Mach 1. I couldn't go to a parts store without some assclown telling me all about my car, and most of it was wrong. So, tell me about this civilian scuba diving. I read about it in a magazine once...

You know, Steve... we haven't been hanging out enough lately. Let me know when you get this range built and we'll catch up on old times. At your place.

You really don't have to possess a wealth of knowledge yourself. A lot of times BS can be ferreted out by using common sense or just gauging a person's demeanor. I think there is a law of inverse proportions at work in most gun shops. The people who are quiet or just making small talk are the ones who probably know the most. It's the guys who can't hold a gun without announcing to anyone within ear shot every minute specification about it per Handgun Digest that subconsciously make me start clenching my fists. I can't stand a lot of I.T. people for the same reason, which really sucks given the industry I'm in. We (myself excluded, I hope) often have diarrhea of the mouth when it comes to technical trivia. When people ask me what I do for work anymore, I just tell them I'm in the porn industry or deal crack. It's less embarrassing.

I have such a hard time separating the two.

Is it just me or do any of you also get the almost uncontrollable urge to punch people at gun shops, firing ranges, gun shows, forums, etc when they start in on the firearms knowledge "dick measuring" contests or otherwise talking complete and utter bullsqueeze about something they clearly know very little about? It used to entertain me. Now it just annoys the hell out of me. But it seems almost inevitable at any one of the venues listed above, I will be subjected to listening to some clown tell everything he knows about whatever firearm is being discussed. And usually everything he knows is whatever he read in a magazine or heard from a friend's sister's room mate's cousin's hair dresser's boyfriend who is a COP... because all cops are the ultimate authority on firearms and invoking a cop as your source of information instantly adds 10,0000pts of credibility to your stupid story. Sorry. I'm just on a bit of a rant this morning after butting heads with some Gun Magazine Ninja who swears to Jesus that his friend (a cop) already has a particular firearm that isn't due to be released for another few months. This guy got it because he's a cop. Just walked into a gun shop and said "I want XYZ gun and here are my cop credentials" and the store owner winked, nudged a stock boy and they coyly produced one of them from behind the counter where it had been secretly stored away. Riiiiiiight. I hate people sometimes. Well, no... most of the times. So, what are your funny stories like this? Joe, I bet you've got some real winners from working in the retail firearms industry. Too bad you probably can't tell them.