TGO David

Nah, it was a joke. Eddie decimated some bowling pins last weekend and I like bringing it up.

Here's what mine is showing on Help About:

How about five?

If my friends show up to our house not carrying and have a permit to do so, I stop them at the door and send them back home to get their weapons.

Seems my copy updated itself a few days ago. I remember reading somewhere that folks were already getting it via the automatic update and I recall it asking me if I wanted to restart to apply updates either Friday or Monday. Good stuff. Edit... Apparently it already updated me to 3 Final since I had been running 3 Release Candidate. Cool.

So far, so good. I managed not to do it under some pretty good "artificial stress" last weekend so maybe my run of good luck will continue.

Understood. Hey... I'll bring bowling pins!

Post #1 in this thread has been updated with info on who is bringing what so far. We still need a few volunteers for a few items. Condiments (ketchup, mustard, relish, etc.) Chips / Doritos Soft drinks

Seriously? What would you consider to be bashing of any profession or individual? It's really not that hard to extrapolate what we mean by "cop bashing" and I cannot help but wonder why a clear cut definition of the term is necessary. Are we trying to establish guidelines? How about: Be respectful of each other. Attack issues instead of individuals. Keep to the facts and don't allow discussions to become emotional, argumentative or inflammatory. Basically, refer to Rule #2.

Nah. I'm thinking about an M&P 9L or 9 Pro. The Glock is just fine as a utility item, but I'm not so enamored with it that I'm going to rush out and buy the long slide version just yet. Maybe one day, just not anytime real soon.

If it were a "gamer" gun I'd be all over the lighter trigger. Since it's my carry weapon, the heavier trigger is fine.

See #3.

It is according to the big three networks and the FCC.

Maybe Joe will chime in here, but I believe there are places locally that can engrave the necessary information for you. Any lower must be engraved once it is registered as an SBR. Owner information is included in the indicia.

You guys are giving me hope that S&W has worked the bugs out with the M&P automatics over the past year. Keep the good range reports coming in.

What... that we don't want him either?

It's not just here. It's on a lot of forums. But like one cop told me a while back... if he had wanted to be popular and have everyone love him, he would have become a fireman. It's probably also why a lot of officers don't feel very welcome on civilian oriented forums. Which is a real shame if you think about the mutual advantages that exist when civilians and police officers have a common understanding of things. My goal for TGO is for it to be a place that you can come and discuss firearms ownership issues regardless of which side of the badge you are on. That's why this latest rash of "cop bashing" really has me concerned.

I agree and would like to emphasize that this sentiment is exactly why we insist that members of TGO debate issues rather than attack individuals (or professions). A lot of "cop bashing" would be averted if people would just state facts, leave out emotion and avoid brash generalizations. It's one thing to say that a particular police officer was a complete dick when he pulled you over for a burned out headlight, beat you with his Maglite, kicked your dog and insulted your preference in whiskeys. It's another to say that all cops are dicks because of what that one guy did. And how DARE he insult your preference in whiskeys. How DARE he.

It ran fine. However the lack of a ambidextrous mag release is one of the Glock's flaws. We did several one-handed (injury simulation) drills in class and it was made very obvious that the Springfield XD and the Glock 21SF both have the advantage for weak-hand shooting because of their ambi design. The extended release can be manipulated with your one weak hand even if you have to physically lay the weapon down, mag release downward, and push it against a hard surface to eject the mag. YES, that is an extreme situation. But **** happens and usually at the worst possible moment. I already had difficulty manipulating the mag release with my strong hand because of a real bitch of a case of tennis elbow (tendonitis). I'm going to stack the deck in my favor any way I can. The recoil spring and guide rod are just improvements to help cut down my split times (faster follow up shots while retaining accuracy) and avert a known problem with the plastic Glock guiderods splitting and failing over time. BTW: I agree with your NRA instructor but there are cases where minor improvements make sense. These are two such cases.

Thanks. It's already a great gun. It just needs a great shooter behind it and that's the part I need to improve the most.

I know what you're saying. "Whoa there, buddy! That's crazy talk!" But I am going for it. I'm improving on perfection and have ordered a few new tweaks for my Glock 19 based on some things that I experienced and learned this past weekend in the defensive handgun class. First up, a Vicker's Extended Glock Mag Release. Not as short and stubby as what it was born with (aww... wookit at how cute it is) but not as long and cumbersome as the ninja commando mall warrior Glock Extended Mag Release that the Tactical & Practical models come with. No sir, just right. Big enough to get the job done, small enough you can still tuck it away without a ... um ... premature ... discharge? Next up, a reduced weight (15lb) recoil spring and steel guiderod. I got to shoot Todd@CIS's Glock 19 with this setup and the difference in splits between followup shots was surprising. Apparently Glock saves a little cash by using the same heavy recoil spring on the .40SW Glock 23 as they do on the 9mm Glock 19. You tell me... do you use the same shock absorbers on a Kenworth as you do on a Toyota Tundra? I. Don't. Think. So. After I do all of this, the only logical thing left to do is glue on some velcro so that it can be uber tactical. Thanks for the advice, Todd! Oh, and I was just kidding about the Velcro. Or was I?

Yes, it is the truth and you're not the only one to notice it. I've been noticing this disturbing trend more and more lately but haven't really been able to put together a coherent thought about it that wouldn't come across as a disciplinary rant. For some reason it seems to me that there is an unusually large percentage of RTKBA folks who really have a chip on their shoulder about the police. I think it has to do with the fact that a lot of RTKBA people are Libertarian to some degree and that they see cops as being "The Man" or at least henchmen of "The Man". Reference Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. for the fuel to their fire. The problem is, most cops aren't that way at all. I had the extreme pleasure of getting to shoot with and cut up with a few of them this weekend. GREAT guys, each of them. None of them wore jackboots and none of them wiped their muddy shoes off with my Constitutional rights. Unfortunately many citizens only get to interact with the police on the occasion that someone did something wrong and the cop had to do something about it in his or her professional capacity. Like getting pulled over for speeding. Sure there are some bad cops out there, but there are some bad doctors, bad dentists, bad school teachers, bad construction workers, bad priests, bad preachers, etc. We typically don't vilify those professions just because somewhere someone decided to be a jackass on the job. Walk a mile in a man's shoes and your opinion of that man might change. Some of our members would probably do well to remember that when they start in on the cop bashing.

Blah blah blah... I hear he also breathes air. I'm not going to give that up just because of association.

Perfection is evolutionary and St. Gaston is slow as hell to acknowledge that his babies need anything new. Sometimes the Kool Aid tastes a little bitter. If Glock would do away with the absurd hump on the backstrap and make it a modular design like the M&P or the HK P2000 / P30 / P2000 and others, they would really have something spectacular going on.