TGO David

The victim should have stayed the hell in his car. Obviously he thought he was tough enough to go confront the guy who cut line. Obviously he was wrong. What if the guy who cut line had been strung out on coke and instead of beating the dude, he shot him in the face at point blank range? I bet pride gets more people killed than we'll ever know.

"Cell phone." "Pager." "Multi-tool." "Insulin pump." "Springfield Armory XD Series, 9mm, 16 rounds. Wanna go shoot sometime?"

Did the guy call 911? Did he try to intervene in any way? Or did he simply stand there and "collect evidence" in case the attacker beat the victim to death? The fact that he stayed in such close proximity tells me he wasn't exactly in fear for his own life.

How in the hell is that guy being called a Good Samaritan for video taping it? Jesus this stuff just makes me sick.

Here's the flip side to this coin... We don't always get to choose when we will have to fight. Sometimes that choice is made for us by the other person. When that happens, you will react... but how? Something to ponder.

It certainly narrows down the possibilities doesn't it?

As I told the other guy, I would have just kept my mouth shut. The thug was obviously being a bully and looking for a reason to flex his "muscle" ... so anything you said could have given him that reason. Mouth shut. Eyes and ears open. Mind on your surrounding and plan of action should you be forced into a situation where you had to defend yourself. No place in line at the store is worth going to jail over, even if you are ultimately cleared of any wrong doing. And if you mouth off to the guy in the store, who's to say he won't be waiting for you outside? Bad idea. Cooler heads prevail, so be the cooler head.

You may not have been snugging the rifle's buttstock up close enough to your shoulder if that happened. I've never had a rifle rattle me to that degree, but then again I always pull them up tight against me. Food for thought.

A guy on a car forum posted this question as a thread and asked for feedback. I thought it would be interesting to see what the members of TGO would have done (or not done) in his shoes. I told him he should have kept his mouth shut.

I've always assumed the check at the door was for anything you were bringing in to sell or trade. If they start patting you down or wanding you for your carry weapon, I would stop going entirely.

I've never done the unload thing. My carry weapon is my carry weapon. I just keep it concealed and go about my business.

Well done!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=812_1214310936 A peak into the future of America if we become lazy and complacent in defending our rights?

It definitely has potential.

Well I could help him out on the range fee for On Target. We have an annual membership so I'm allowed to bring a free guest every so often. The biggest problems I have had with that range is that sometimes the lanes are in various states of disrepair and the ventilation system doesn't always do a great job of keeping the smoke down.

Tower if my schedule and yours permit, I'd be happy to meet you and have you shoot at On Target (indoor range) in Murfreesboro while you are in town. It's about 30 miles southeast of Nashville proper. Also several of our members are also members of Owl Hollow and any of them could have you as a guest there. Cost for a guest to shoot is $5.

Reviving a thread from the boneyard... Last week I got around to installing the Volquartsen extractor and extra-power extractor spring, as well as a polymer buffer pin. These two things and a thorough cleaning of the rifle while I had it apart produced a 10/22 that runs like a sewing machine. No more jamming problems. Spent casings made a nice neat little pile on the ground next to me. Lots of fun, cheap, accurate shooting.

I agree with you there. Let me amend my previous statement since you definitely make a strong case for the Fobus as a "gun holder" both on your person at the range and in the house screwed to a wall, bed stand, etc. As a concealed carry holster, it's my opinion that you can (and should) do much better than choosing a Fobus. You have already invested a few hundred dollars into a firearm and a few hundred into obtaining your handgun carry permit. It makes no sense to suddenly skimp on a carry holster. If you're not carrying with it, then the Fobus is a good choice.

If you just want to practice your drawing and acquisition of target, I'd invest the $40 or so into an inert trainer like those available from Blue Guns. www.blueguns.com Also much less likely to be confused with the real thing, either by you or by your friendly local LEO who might happen to see you practicing with it outside or something. No one does that, right?

Fobus holsters are, with apologies to those who own them, garbage. The failure in the design is the rivets. Were it not for the rivets being easy to rip through the plastic and therefore easy to tear the holster off of the wearer's person, the holster would actually be a good bargain. Uncle Mikes and Blade Tech both make injection molded holsters of substantially better quality than the Fobus for not much more money. The Blackhawk SERPA is even better but carries a bit more of a price tag. Stepping up to quality Kydex (Comp-Tac, G-Code, Blade Tech, etc.) gains you quite a bit more structural integrity while reducing the "footprint" of the holster when you're trying to conceal it. That's the only reason I do not include the SERPA in this group. You do get what you pay for.

Len, I know of a guy up in Greenbrier who used to do pro automotive alarm installations and still does them on the side at his house. If you're interested in something like that, PM me and I will get you his contact information.

Anymore... Glock 19 in Comp-Tac MTAC IWB holster. Spare mag on weak side in Comp-Tac mag pouch. Sometimes add my S&W #442 j-frame in as a backup gun on my weak side in front pants pocket. Seldom, but occasionally, carry just the j-frame in my pants pocket. Depends on the circumstances.

5.) She has two kids named Trevor and Carson, frequents Starbucks, has an Obama '08 sticker on the back window of her Honda Element and is recently divorced from her husband who "just wasn't right for her at this point in her life". She loves The Indigo Girls, wears Crocs with socks and refuses to shave her legs or underarms as protest against the male dominated society in which she feels she lives.

In my opinion, carrying off the body in a bag is a horrible way to carry. Even if the bag is slung around your body (messenger style) it is still one of the first things that an attacker will likely grab for and use to manhandle you. I want my firearm tucked in as close to my body as possible so that the odds of anyone else being able to grab it away from me or keep me from reaching it are much, much less. My wife is relatively new to guns and very new to carrying one. When someone mentioned a concealed carry purse/bag to her, the immediate response from her was "That is a really dumb idea. That's the first thing they are going to grab." Just food for thought. Carrying a firearm for your personal safety is not always convenient or comfortable. We can strive to make it more so but eventually come to a point where comfort and convenience begin to sacrifice safety and retention.

Airsoft weenies. God love 'em.