TGO David

The LaRue 7.0 has been right up there at the top of my list for a while now. I doubt either you or me are going to be kicking in any doors with our rifles unless your kids lock you out of the house.

I'm getting close to ordering my rail for the rifle and have started comparing the LaRue Tactical to rails from Daniel Defense. I like the ovoid profile of the DD Omega rails as it's pretty similar to the profile of the standard M4 forearm. I have used YHM in the past and while I found them to be very well made, they lacked any sort of T-marks (not a huge issue) and I'd really just prefer something different this time around. Suggestions are welcome at this point.

From the TFA mailing list, for those here who do not subscribe... Tennessee Firearms Association, Inc. Legislative Action Committee <hr> Tennesseans deserve honesty, integrity and truthfulness in elected officials.... This past spring, Speaker Jimmy Naifeh, exercised a power, one which he is willing to abuse, to kill several widely popular "Second Amendment" bills in the Tennessee General Assembly. This conduct comes as no surprise to constitutionalists and Second Amendment supporters who watched as Jimmy Naifeh ruled on legislation unilaterally like a tyrant rather than to allow all 99 House members to have a representative vote on these bills. For reasons yet unexplained satisfactorily, the Jimmy Naifeh cannot articulate why the elected representatives of all citizens of the state of Tennessee should be routinely denied the opportunity to vote on legislation which Speaker Naifeh disfavors. Such power is not representative government by tyranny. Speaker Naifeh explained his action in the following press release: <table width="90%" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr> <td>Jimmy Naifeh wrote:</td></tr> <tr> <td> Reason and Balance Key to Protection of Rights April 11, 2008 Speaker Jimmy Naifeh “In a healthy nation there is a kind of dramatic balance between the will of the people and the government, which prevents its degeneration into tyranny.” - Albert Einstein As many of you may or may not know, the Speaker of the Tennessee House of Representatives has the right to cast a vote in any committee or subcommittee meeting. In my nearly twenty years as Speaker, I have made it a point to use this privilege sparingly and save it for times when I feel such intervention is needed. This year the House of Representatives has been faced with a number of bills dealing with the topic of guns. As a gun owner myself and someone who supports the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, the issue of gun ownership is a personal one. While I have and will continue to defend a Tennessean’s right to bear arms, I also recognize that with that right comes the need for responsibility. That need for responsibility led me to cast my vote against these bills. There are some who have said these votes were “anti-gun” votes, trying to paint me and those who support my efforts as anti- Second Amendment. That could not be farther from the truth. In addition to owning sixteen different firearms, a few weeks ago I became one of the over 190,000 to earn a concealed weapons permit. The aim of these bills was not to protect or defend the Second Amendment of this country, but rather an attempt by an extreme few to pervert our right to bear arms into a law that only recognizes a select few. Allowing people to carry concealed weapons in bars and restaurants does nothing to improve safety, but rather opens the door to much larger problems. Restricting and criminalizing access to the over 190,000 concealed weapons permit holders records does nothing for the protection of Tennessee’s 6.5 million residents. And so I voted these bills down. The Jackson Sun Editorial Board praised my actions, not once but twice, saying “there's no doubt that Naifeh made the right decision in helping defeat these bills, not just because his constituents were opposed to them, but because killing the legislation will help keep Tennesseans safe.” Most gun owners that I have talked to understand why this legislation was not acceptable, and recognize that here in Tennessee we have it pretty good. They, along with most Tennesseans, realize that the balance between those that own firearms and those who do not must be respected. But you cannot please everyone all the time, and so there are a couple of radicals out there claiming an anti-gun agenda ruled the day. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again and will continue to say it. As long as I am Speaker, we will never have to worry about our Second Amendment right being infringed upon. http://wdef.com/news/tennessee<wbr>_house_speaker_explains_his<wbr>_deciding_vote_against_gun<wbr>_legislation_this_session/04<wbr>/2008</td></tr></tbody></table> Now, let's take a few looks at what Speaker Naifeh says. 1) Jimmy Naifeh (or someone who writes for him) quotes Einstein on tyranny. That is ironic. Note that the quote was a reference that the balance being addressed was the will of the people restraining government from declining into tyranny. While the quote is appropriate, it is not a quote supportive of Jimmy Naifeh's own tyrannical actions. 2) The "right" of the Speaker of the House of Representatives to vote in committee is not a constitutional right in Tennessee, its instead a privilege created under the House Rules. Just because it exists does not make it a "right" nor does it elevate the role of Speaker to some sort of superior moral gatekeeper for all legislation passing through the House. Here, it is simply a tool used by Speaker Naifeh to give his single vote far more importance than was ever intended in a representative form of government. 3) While the Speaker may in fact be a gun owner, so are many criminals. Hitler was a gun owner. Stalin was a gun owner. John Dillinger was a gun owner. So was Alvin York. The fact that Jimmy Naifeh is a gun owner alone provides no material evidence that he supports or protects or for that matter even comprehends the Second Amendment. It is also noteworthy that he, as a state legislator, makes no reference whatsoever to the Tennessee Constitutional guarantee in Article 1, Section 26, which protects the rights of Tennesseans at a higher level than the Second Amendment. But then again, constitutionally protected rights may mean nothing to a Speaker with a special voting power and a perception that his special powers exist to balance what is right and to exterminate unwise and unbalanced legislation that almost all other elected legislators actually support. 4) Jimmy Naifeh then says "In addition to owning sixteen different firearms, a few weeks ago I became one of the over 190,000 to earn a concealed weapons permit." First, let us note that Jimmy Naifeh does not even really understand the law that was passed almost 15 years ago which establishes a permitting system in Tennessee. Despite what he thinks, Tennessee is not and never has issued "concealed weapons permit". There is no concealment requirement. There is no "weapons" permit. It is a civilian handgun permit under which open carry is allowed. Second, note that Jimmy Naifeh tries to align himself with the citizens who elect to obtain civilian handgun permits by asserting that he "earn"ed his permit. Again, the civilian handgun permit in Tennessee is a right. You do not "earn" it like a boy scout badge. Of course, if Jimmy Naifeh thinks it is something that the citizens have to "earn" then apparently its easier to infringe the earnings path with obstacles. 5) Also note that Jimmy Naifeh claims he "earned" his "concealed weapons permit" "a few weeks ago" referencing some point in time prior to April 11, 2008. Now, its almost ironic that one of the bills that Jimmy Naifeh found it necessary to suppress was one that would have made handgun permit records confidential. Since he felt that this law was unwise, TFA decided to submit a Freedom of Information Act Request to obtain Jimmy Naifeh's handgun permit application records. [Where is Phil Williams when there is investigating reporting that needs to be done?] It turns out that when Jimmy Naifeh told the citizens of this state that he had "earned" his "concealed weapons permit" he was wrong or he just simply lied. Either way, it was not the truth. When he made that press release, Jimmy Naifeh had not even applied for the civilian handgun permit. Maybe that is because he did not understand Tennessee law that you have to apply to the Department of Safety after you take the handgun class (assuming you actually took the class.). Whatever the reason, what Jimmy Naifeh said was false. According to records obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, Jimmy Naifeh's chronology is this: - March 29, 2008, Jimmy Naifeh took a handgun certification class at Brighton Arms with Smith and Wesson Model 8906 9mm semi-automatic pistol. Well, he at least got a certificate that said he did. Maybe we will have some people who did take the class help us with this fact. - Jimmy Naifeh issued a press release on or about April 11, 2008, claiming he had earned his concealed weapons permit "several weeks ago" - April 21, 2008 almost 11 days after the TFA's Freedom of Information Act Request was submitted, Jimmy Naifeh applied for Tennessee civilian handgun permit with the Tennessee Department of Safety (perhaps someone at the Department of Safety alerted the Speaker's office to this oversight on his part?). - April 22, 2008, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation completes background check on Jimmy Naifeh (WOW! They CAN do it in one day!!!) - May 12, 2008, Tipton County Sheriff complete local background check http://www.tfaonline.org<wbr>/downloads/naifehtdos.pdf What can the average citizen draw from this? Many things.... Jimmy Naifeh did not tell the truth when he said he "earned" his concealed weapons permit. He may have intentionally lied on this point but really would that surprise anyone? For all we know, someone else wrote the article for him and that person shows even more recklessness for the truth than we should be entitled to expect from a "super" legislator. Jimmy Naifeh does not understand that there is no concealment requirement. Jimmy Naifeh does not understand that it is a handgun and not a "weapons" permit. Jimmy Naifeh was able to get a TBI background check in less than 24 hours whereas most Tennesseans are waiting literally months for renewal permits to be issued. Of course, Jimmy Naifeh has an armed Highway Patrol Officer to protect him while the Tennessee Department of Safety processes his civilian handgun permit application so there should have been no urgency. Jimmy Naifeh just does not get it. The Second Amendment and the Tennessee Constitutional guarantees protect fundamental rights of citizens from government infringement and abuses from tyrants, well, like Jimmy Naifeh. Jimmy Naifeh is likely not going to loose his campaign for re-election. Yet he can still be the issue in this election year. The issue with Jimmy Naifeh is not his re-election as a legislator but his re-election as the Speaker. Tennesseans across the state can impact the appointment of the next House Speaker by demanding that all candidates pledge in writing that they will not support Jimmy Naifeh as Speaker when the Legislature re-convenes in January. That should be relatively easy to do with Republicans and Independents. With Democrats it will be necessary to get their pledges - in writing - that they will not vote for Jimmy Naifeh - at any time - as Speaker. It really does not matter who they vote for as long as it is not Jimmy Naifeh. Its time for Tennessee's constitutionalists and Second Amendment supporters (the real ones) to make an issue of Jimmy Naifeh.

There's no answer for "It Depends". If I am outside at home, yes. If I am inside, sometimes. But there is always one nearby. Always.

Keystone in Nashville sells their stuff.

I see that Eddie is carrying the mug o' doom!

You might contact the people at Spike's Tactical and see what they might offer.

Yes it makes a difference. You want a faster twist rate for heavier projectiles. If you're going to shoot 55gr then 1 in 9 (slower) works fine. If you're going to shoot heavy loads like 69gr and up, you're going to want a 1 in 7 (faster) twist rate. Edit... more info here: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7900&highlight=twist+rate

We're waiting for my wife's permit to come in. She filed for it about 4 weeks ago.

Grow a pair? My opinion in this thread has nothing to do with my personal liability. What it does have to do with is that I know a little more about this exact, specific situation than you do. I was put on notice a while back that the ATF was looking at some of the personal transactions being conducted via this site. Maybe you'll recall that about a month ago we really tightened down on who could post ads and such. Those changes happened for a reason. They happened to protect members from themselves and from people who were here simply to conduct what the government was at least concerned might have constituted shady dealings in respect to the law. This is not to say that the original poster was doing any of those things. I'm just stating the fact that TGO was being looked at and probably will continue to be monitored so long as civilians trade among themselves here. The original poster had very good reason to be concerned and had very good reason to follow procedure and investigate obtaining a Federal Firearms License given what I know about that particular situation. Thanks for your input.

Happened to me somewhere the other day, but I can't recall where or for what. I usually don't write many checks. Maybe it was at Guns & Leather?

Joe and Dan stay pretty busy at the shop. The best way to get a quick reply on something is to call down to Hero Gear by phone and ask whatever it is that you want to ask about.

Werd.

I'm just going slow. I had a lot of these parts set aside already so the progress may look more impressive than it really is. The parts I lack now (upper, optic, suppressor, etc.) are the more expensive ones so the remainder of my build will probably take quite a bit longer to finalize.

Interesting. My brother (Gerbil Kint) is planning on Duracoating his. I'm probably going to stay plain jane black and tan on this one. At least for a little while. Until I get bored.

What web browser are you using?

All of the furniture is going to be dark flat earth. What have you got in mind?

Gas piston designs really shine when you get below 11" of bbl length. Beyond that they are pretty heavy and there is a lot of evidence that they really don't add many advantages to the rifle. The "myth" is that the gas tube design of the M16/AR15 platform isn't as reliable because of fouling. There are members here with a lot more knowledge of and experience with the rifle in honest to god battle situations that have come out pretty strongly against that. Gas piston is cool, but not necessary in this application.

It was her idea. Wait til you see the 5.11 onesies.

Maybe he has one of these...

My gun money is getting transitioned into diaper money. But a suppressor will be good for the baby's ears.

Meh... some folks say shoot it first with a regular carbine buffer and see how it feels. Buffers are cheap. If it needs a heavy buffer, I'll add one later. It's also going to depend a little on how it cycles with the suppressor attached.

Every day you delay buying or building your own, is a day that Obama touches himself and thinks about you. Seriously.

The photos in that thread (re: CMT BCG with sheared screws) looks like the screws were at fault and not the other hard parts. Someone may have taken it apart for some reason and then re-used the original screws rather than replace them like you're supposed to. I'll just see about an LMT or BMC group instead if that thread shows up significant evidence that CMT blows goats. Everyone produces a lemon every once in a while.

Going to use this thread to track my progress building an SBR (short barrel rifle) AR15 based loosely off of the MK18 used by the US Navy SEALS. I wanted something a little different so this is the route I decided to take. I've accumulated most of the parts and am submitting my paperwork for the beloved BATFE tax stamp so that I can assemble them into a functioning short barrel rifle. A few parts still remain but should be in place by the time the tax stamp comes back. Red highlight indicates items I lack. LMT 10.5" upper receiver CMT bolt carrier group Spike's Tactical lower receiver - NFA engravings Magpul MIAD - dark flat earth Magpul aluminum enlarged trigger guard Magpul CTR milspec - dark flat earth LMT milspec 6 position buffer tube Carbine weight main action spring Carbine weight buffer YHM ambi hook endplate LaRue 7.0 quad rail forend LaRue quick release EOTech riser LMT tactical rear sight (re: MK18) DPMS lower parts kit DPMS ambidextrous fire control lever KNS anti rotation pins EOTech 512 AA optic Vickers Tactical combat application sling - coyote brown Tango Down stubby vertica fore grip - dark flat earth Magpul XT rail covers - dark flat earth YHM Phantom flash hider for suppressor YHM Phantom Stainless 5.56 suppressor I decided to skip the SOPMOD stock in favor of the CTR. I had a CTR on my old rifle and really liked it. I did opt to go with the milspec buffer tube and CTR this time, however. I also decided to skip the Aimpoint optic in favor of the EOTech. Personal preference. Before someone notes that I opted for a dual point sling and mentioned using an ambi-hook end plate more commonly reserved for a single point sling, I'm giving myself the option of running a single point sling with HK claw attachment later if I want. No sense having to bust the buffer tube's castle nut loose after it's torqued and staked just to install another end plate later. I hope to pick up the LMT upper during the second half of July and maybe the LaRule rail and EOTech in August. Since my wife and I are expecting our first child in January, this will be my last big hurrah until after the baby expenses are over. Maybe.