TGO David

Are you sure you aren't a relativist? Because, frankly, who cares what the reason when the outcome is still just as frustrating and futile.

Smith & Wesson J-Frame.

Regarding bump-fire... Guys please be aware that Owl Hollow Gun Club has asked everyone to limit their rapid / auto firing sequences and to maintain strict control over their firearm when they are doing so. Bump firing is typically not something you can do while maintaining proper aim, and is something you may end up having a Range Safety Officer crack down on. The OHGC members who are acting as "sponsors" of TGO guests could be held accountable if someone complains, and ultimately it could lead to OHGC forbidding organized TGO meet and greets out there. By now I think we've all seen plenty of examples of bump firing and the novelty should be wearing off. From now on I'm requesting that TGO members not do this. If we don't police ourselves, we can expect OHGC to end up policing us. Thanks.

The problem is, the people who will vote for these morons don't care. They will elect them just because the aren't Republicans. The DNC could run a comatose chimpanzee and their target demographic would enthusiastically support them.

Tower, had I known this I would have doubled my effort to be there. As was we spent the morning running errands and cleaning up around the house. Both of which needed to be done pretty badly, but I would have loved to have put a face with a name, shaken hands and put some rounds down range together. Soon perhaps!

Well... it sure sounds like you were born under a bad sign or something, because you seem to have some pretty crappy luck. Hope you get your gun back soon.

Ok, one last remark... there ARE people here who really do know. That's why I said what I did. My information may be second hand, but it seems to be fairly accurate. It's not rumor, it's not speculation. It is what it is. The rest of your post teeters on the edge of absurdity, but it deserves a reply. The officer didn't steal the guy's handgun. He legally seized it since the guy was NOT supposed to be carrying in light of having an expired permit. He COULD have hauled the guy to jail but let him go. I'd say that the officer did him a FAVOR. It really seems that you're one of those guys who doesn't trust anyone in a position of authority so I'm choosing to end my side of this conversation now for real.

Pretty fast paced game in the first half, but entirely due to the large number of turnovers. The second half was just silly. It's as if the Titans were more interested in getting in hard hits and on-field scuffles than they were about putting points on the board or keeping the Falcons from scoring. They better get their acts together quick.

Good grief... whatever man. Subvert the dominant paradigm! I'm out.

The cops don't need me taking up for them. They're pretty capable of handling themselves. After all, who left with the gun in this case? Oh... right... not the kid who likes to wear kilts and get uppity with the guy behind the badge. Yeahhhhh.

Idiot Proof, Stupid Proof, Murphy Proof... all are pithy little terms that get thrown around to illustrate that care has been taken by the designers of a system to make sure that it is operable by the lowest common denominator. I can assure you that I wasn't calling anyone in particular stupid, but merely pointing out that we all are just essentially monkeys with a few evolutionary notches on our belts. The problem with monkeys is that sooner or later, one of them will figure out how to put a banana up it's ass despite the fact that the banana's designer didn't intend for it to go there. Same thing with Glocks and safeties. Verbal more or less stated it here... He just failed to invoke the monkey analogy. Far better men than I have been known to use that as a cardinal rule of handgun safety. Jeff Cooper comes to mind. Not saying that he ever walked on water, but I think he knew a thing or two about firearms. I can think of a half dozen examples of professionals operating in Iraq as hired guns who are carrying Glocks. This based on the photographs that I've seen of them with Glocks in their ready gear. Maybe they were issued to them by their contract employer. Regardless, they are carried. If HK were the end all be all of firearms, everyone who had a clue would own them right? I find it hard to believe that so many LEOs do own Glocks privately as well as carry the ones they are issued rather than choosing something "better". Not every cop is a gun enthusiast, but not every isn't either. There are a lot of cops on gun forums and a lot of them own Glocks. Maybe they just aren't as professional as the people you speak of. Or maybe the tool that fits your general scenerio of operation is best for that application, whereas the Glock (and others like it) are best for a different application. Frankly I haven't a clue if that's true or not. I'm just trying to give the benefit of the doubt here since obviously you know a metric ****-ton more about running and gunning in a jungle environment than I do. Well actually that may be the idea... but the way the population keeps exploding, Glock has been fortunate enough not to run out of customers just yet.

Yeah it's ugly as sin but it throws a hell of a boom down range.

Pfft. Name something serious that you've ever used Loctite on. Oh. Wait. Missiles. Yeah... missiles. Forgot about that one.

Wow... you know. For a moment there I almost forgot that most of us here are in the practice of carrying anywhere from six to nineteen rounds of pieces of explosives on our person day in and day out. Explosives designed to hurl tiny chunks of metal at hundreds of feet per second with the express purpose of punching holes through flesh and bone. And that for the sole sake of incapacitating a person who has taken it upon themselves to attack us and render bodily harm or death unto us. I mean... that's serious stuff! Almost as serious as keeping your ****ING FINGER OFF THE ****ING TRIGGER. Maybe we should carry something that wouldn't hurt us if we were negligent in some way. Like Nerf baseball bats.

I'd call over to CCA and give them a chance to make it right if they were at fault in any way. JWP seems to be very conscious of providing good customer service, as do all of our vendors.

I was bored this afternoon and decided to call the BATFE office in West Virginia and inquire. No harm in that. In fact, the representative that I spoke with was extremely friendly, polite and courteous. As I told her, it was my first Form 1 submission and she jokingly said "Oh those are the ones that take the longest. The first ones. The rest of them don't seem to take near as long." To date, I am in their system, my certified check was cashed back on July the 23rd and she told me to call back in about a month and she'd be happy to reference the serial number again and let me know where I was in the process. I'll probably give it another 6 weeks and just see what happens. I might actually be able to build my SBR before November if my luck holds out.

It's been common knowledge for a while that you did not need to assemble an AR for a friend from a parts kit because that put you squarely into the category of being a manufacturer. This just seems to be the BATFE stating it plainly in black and white, which is something that the community has actually needed for some time now. When things are black and white, it leaves less to the discretion of the individual Agent and lets us all know what the rules are. I just don't see this as being a bad thing. PS: It's still, and always has been, OK for you to help a buddy work on his own firearm. But not for money and not doing it all for him. Either of those two things make you a manufacturer, by definition.

It really is about personal preference. I hear so much anti-Glock diatribe (everywhere, not just here) and it's almost always backed up with a statement about some "safer" gun that the person ranting against Glocks owns himself. I carry my 1911 occasionally but not anywhere as frequently as I do my Glock. I don't feel any more confident that it won't go off inadvertently than I do that my Glock won't. The thumb and grip safeties do nothing to provide me any more peace of mind. Some people see the lack of a manual safety on the Glock as a downfall. I see it as a benefit on a fighting pistol. It's a streamlined system that has been fairly well idiot-proofed in the case of a high stress encounter with minimal reaction time afforded the Glock's operator. One less thing to forget. One less obstacle between pointing and shooting. One less part to stop working at the most inopportune moment. I'm not bashing XDs. I'm not bashing 1911s. I am bashing the prolific ignorance that says Glocks are bad because Glocks don't have grip safeties or thumb safeties.

Yeah but what about primers? Or powder? Huh? Huh? HUH?

I guess I didn't read it that way. Why do you interpret it as such?

You should probably sell it now before it goes off by itself and shoots you while you sleep. I own a 1911, M&P, J-Frame and Glock presently. I have owned a handgun from pretty much every popular make and model over the past 15 or so years. None of them have ever struck me as being any more or less safe than each other. The Glock included. Every time I see the argument about whether or not a Glock is any less save than another firearm, I remind myself that some people just aren't going to be swayed no matter how convincing the evidence is to the contrary. Some people just won't feel good about a gun unless it has a manual safety on it. And this is exactly why Springfield now produces an XD and Smith & Wesson now produces an M&P with manual safety levers. Not because they are any more "safe" but because it makes people feel safe. HanSolo, you need to trade your XD off for one of the new ones with the thumb safety. Gravity may increase exponentially without warning and cause your grip safety to be sucked into the frame thereby allowing an accidental discharge!

About 2,400 feet per second. And you can practically hear the cash register ka-ching every time you pull the trigger. About $19 for 20 rds in most places.

We've added a new flavor of gun lube. Salisbury Steak.

It's always good to meet a fan.