TGO David

This morning, I had a reply from the acting VP of OHGC regarding my inquiry. I shall repost it here for the benefit of all.

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Just as an aside... I carried my Wilson Combat 1911 in my Milt Sparks VM2 on Saturday. It was comfortable but I found myself wishing that I had carried it in my MTAC instead every time I went to re-holster the weapon. The Kydex shell on the MTAC makes it far easier to reholster the weapon than the all-leather VM2 does.

If you've been fingerprinted and paid your fee at the Dept of Safety and been photographed at the DOS, you're now in the infamous holding pattern. Just sit back and try to wait it out for the next two months.

I'm not surprised. The media would have been all over the USAF for dropping a GBU into the middle of an Obama '08 campaign HQ.

Glad to hear it worked out well for you. I've always been pleased with his stuff.

Sorry, I mistyped. What I meant to say is that they lose about 90% of their muzzle velocity when fired straight up and return straight down, according to the Myth Busters report. Again, that's assuming a 90* trajectory for both launch and return.

Tower, I'll be upset if I don't see a pumpkin post-impact from a tower fall.

Bring that girl to the range someone, man. WWOD (What Would Oprah Do?) isn't the sort of thing she needs to be thinking about.

Replace whatever parts may be worn internally to make it a safely operable firearm again. Wipe it down with oil to a light sheen, then shadow-box it.

Dude... uncool. Telling a man you fondled his new firearm before he bought it is like saying you slept with his wife before he started dating her.

Mark, the reason he gave me was "perception". He stated that it looked as though I was carrying my firearm, ready to shoot someone. Those were his exact words. When I challenged him on the lack of safety in carrying the rifle muzzle-skyward, he said it boiled down to perception. When I asked who's perception we were talking about, he stated that it was "mine" (his). I wish I was making this up but sadly it's the complete truth.

Looks really good!

RPGs, man. RPGs. All the rave these days for celebratory fire. But they leave a heck of a mess when they come back down.

Copy that. At one point I was one of those "muzzle in the air" guys too but along the way someone showed me a better way so I've been using it ever since. I'll tell you, one of the worst parts about having a short barrel carbine and being told to sling it over your shoulder is that the sling position and length of the barrel combine to result in either the muzzle being pointed at the base of your own neck or at anyone / everyone behind and to the sides of you. REALLY not a smart idea. I of course refused to comply with such an asinine command and attempted to explain the fallacy of the command to the RO in a very calm, very genuine manner. Suffice it to say that it didn't go very well from that point forward. I would have rather been ejected from the range myself than be forced to transport my rifle in a manner unsafe to others present. Somehow we just left it as a mutual disagreement and nothing else came of that, but the tone for the rest of the day was set.

Can you guarantee that a rifle being held with the muzzle straight into the sky will be held at precisely a 90 degree angle to flat ground and that the trajectory will not deviate into the "10 degrees above the horizon" realm that you threw out? I can't. I can, however, guarantee that the muzzle will remain pointed at the ground within a safe arc immediately in front of me if I carry it in such a manner. The margin for disaster is significantly reduced. Are you debating that or are you just debating that an aerial shot carries much risk for those on the ground?

Since I'm reading what you have written on the Internet, can I likewise discard it as being erroneous? Dismissing information because of how it was found is a pretty silly way to argue a point.

Apparently Myth Busters did a segment on shooting into the air a while back. They found that bullets typically return to earth at about 90% of their muzzle velocity. Still enough to hurt someone or dent a car. Of course there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to the effect that people can be or are killed by aerial shooting. Either way, anyone shooting into the air either intentionally or unintentionally has no control over where the round is going to come down. It's no wonder, then, that many agencies and private trainers teach muzzle-down as a way to control where an errant round might go. Simple logic dictates that the latter affords a higher degree of predictability.

http://www.iansa.org/regions/aerial-gunfire.htm First hit on a Google search.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he might have spent some time over there given the inclusion of "Iraqi Freedom" in the signature image.

I ordered them from ZombieTargets.net

Some calibers just don't feel right in a plastic handgun. 10mm is one of them.

That gentleman is spot-on regarding the political nature of self defense shootings. The best thing to do is keep your statement simple and to the point (as has already been covered) and then keep your mouth shut until you get to speak to your attorney. A few hours spent detained by the police is better than a few years spent incarcerated by the State. Zip your mouth and wait for your attorney. What you don't say can't be held against you! But what you do, can!

SPP is on the radar as becoming the next recognized hate crime.