TGO David

It cuts the velocity a bit with a standard A2 brake. You pick some of it back up with a suppressor and with certain brake designs (like the Noveske KX3) but never enough to really get back to where you'd want to use a SBR to engage a target out at 300yds. When you shorten the barrel beneath 16-inches, you're effectively relegating that rifle to closer quarters use.

I didn't build my rifle to be an investment and could care less if it goes up in value, as I have no intention of selling it. I built it to be a practical defensive carbine for my own enjoyment. You're missing the point of enjoying a firearm if you constantly hamstring yourself with thoughts about how much it's going to be worth when you decide to flip it. As for professional, I didn't realize we were engaging in business here. I thought we were having a conversation.

I'm just doing my part to cut through misinformation. If my attacking the flawed points your making bothers you, stop making flawed points.

I lied... I'm not done with you yet. #1. It's not a silencer, it's a suppressor. ergo, my next point... #2. Unless you're shooting subsonic rounds or shooting a wet suppressor, it's not THAT much quieter and your neighbors are still going to hear it. #3. Given the choice between having another half pound of metal hanging off the end of a front heavy 16-inch carbine or a more balanced short barreled rifle, I'm going to go with the shorter barrel. WHICH, coincidentally enough, is the reason why most of the people who know about this **** because they get paid to prance around in the 5.11 tacti-cool pants in places where the targets shoot back, choose to have a short barrel rifle to begin with. But what do I know.

Your ignorance on the matter is astounding, but I don't have the patience or the interest to rehash the benefits of a SBR with someone who apparently knows way more than I do about it. We'll just pretend that I have no experience with the ergonomics or benefits of a shorter barreled AR15 and I will defer to what you've gleaned from reading **** on the Internet. Cliffs Notes: You win, because I don't care. EDIT: I forgot to mention that your argument about the lack of practicality of a civilian owning an SBR unless they just want to look cool prancing around their house in 5.11 gear pretty much MURDERS your reason for wanting to own a "bullet hose" (your words) for which the practical applications are undoubtedly limitless. Am I right? Because if a guy with a SBR looks cool to the geeks at the shooting range, then a guy with a fully is going to be a mother****ing GOD among men. I get it now. You're just wanting the biggest gun-dick that you can afford.

Do you realize that you are trying to make a case against a $200 tax stamp to own a short barrel rifle which are cheap and plentiful by making a case for a $200 tax stamp to own a transferrable full auto weapon which are neither cheap nor plentiful? It would take someone in the used car business to use logic like that. Oh, wait...

I have no idea. Key words, perhaps. I'm getting ready to upgrade our forum software, so it may even be a bug. We're still in Beta phase with the 3.8 version.

Emails of any sort coming out of the TGO server are going to be subject to the same crap we've been fighting with for months now. A lot of ISPs block our emails incorrectly as "spam".

The costs involved are... $200. You're right. It seems super prohibitive when you look at it that way. As for the actual gains, that falls into the category if "If you have to explain it..."

And... happy Wednesday to everyone else.

Two three-day TEMPORARY bans issued to Canadien Mike and Double Tap for stirring up a fight. They can use this vacation to cool down. Closing this thread.

Stick to attacking the issue and not each other, please.

Check and mate.

This thread is going well.

Moving to general Off-Topic. The events and gatherings forum is for physical get togethers of TGO members.

Poor XS, they probably don't realize the stigma that comes with that particular Camden, TN endorsement. That being said, I have shot a few handguns with XS sights and thought they worked pretty good. If you like them, give them a spin. Don't see how you could go wrong with them

Upon further review of this odd leather-lined kydex mutant, I have come to the conclusion that this is a perfect example of a solution looking for a problem.

Nah, haven't had a chance to soil the barrel any yet. Maybe this upcoming weekend.

Being that he's a small, one man shop, I think I'm just going to stick to paying his full asking price. I'd feel better not asking him to cut his profit margin.

Thanks for reminding me of the Aholster fellow. I couldn't remember the name and have been wanting to order one for my 442.

No, it was an anti man-on-man fellatio remark. FWIW, the Dicks price is cheaper than what I gave, but you have to find a store that has them. I'm not saying how much cheaper or anything more than that. It's just funny that you can tell people here where to find a smoking deal on anything, and the usual suspects arrive on scene with a better source or a better price or whatever. Which is pretty much why I don't care to say exactly what I paid or where I got it. Congrats! How do you like the 642? They make sweet little pocket guns don't they?

Thanks. I'm thinking... CIS Defensive Shotgun class, 2009.

You are 13 posts shy of having the 31st post and your opinion counting.

I'm happy to say that I supported a small business with my purchase and didn't have to "bob for dreidles" to get a good price.

I'm sure they could. I merely presented a source that reportedly has some very good pricing on the 930 SPX when it is in stock. I was surprised to see this one on the wall of the shop from which I bought it. Even more surprised by the price point.