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Welcome Jimmy.

I was thinking about Shannon earlier today. RIP friend.

Tonight I ordered a Raven Concealment Systems "Phantom" outside the waistband (gasp!) holster for my M&P and the production delay looks to be about 40 days according to the status email they sent. I have been meaning to order a Phantom for a while now but finally got around to doing it. The Phantom is a pancake style holster but is made of Kydex instead of leather, and I'm a sucker for Kydex. The photos that I've seen indicate that the Phantom really pulls the firearm in close to your body rather than let it sort of flop around out there on your belt like a lot of outside carry holsters do. I've got a DeSantis Speed Scabbard for OWB use right now and like it well enough, but given my druthers I will almost always pick Kydex for speed of draw, positive retention and ease of reholstering. Don't worry... I'll be carrying concealed even though it's OWB. I'm not defecting to the Open Carry world. Here are some pictures of another guy's RCS Phantom:

I'll certainly look into it but I can't guarantee we'll add it. The more add-ons you plug into vBulletin, the less stable it can become.

Hey Don, glad you signed up! You and I spoke today at the shop while I was picking up some of our TGO hats.

Sounds like a fun day. I took the liberty of trying to break your post up into paragraphs just to make it a little easier to read, though.

I never could get a thumbs forward grip to work with my P2000. Kept hitting the slide release lever and causing it to lock back prematurely.

I think the secret signal ought to be scratching your left earlobe with your right hand.

It suddenly occurs to me that you and I may somehow be related. Thanks for the replies and I'm happy to hear that I didn't offend you. The ink cartridges jab got a good laugh out of me too. I've got to head to Staples today in fact; I may leave my BUG at home this once.

Nice! Be sure to check the gas key on the bolt carrier group and make sure that the screws are properly staked. That's an area that Bushmaster is notorious for slacking in. I'd also check and make sure that the buffer tube castle nut is properly staked while you're at it. Have seen several instances of neither being the case. Enjoy the new rifle.

I can see where if she pressed the release as if it were a button (with her finger tip) how she could have transitioned into stabbing the trigger also. Again, it can happen with any holster. The SERPA design is a pretty natural, instinctive one if you're used to indexing your finger properly as you draw. Back to the original topic, as someone else stated, the SERPA holster rides closer to your body when you use the belt mounting point rather than the paddle. The paddle definitely juts the holster out a bit.

The lady in question clearly got her finger into the trigger guard after it cleared the holster. You could do that with any holster if you don't keep your finger indexed on the slide and away from the trigger during draw or reholstering.

You should have known better than this since you're quite active over there. Frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of it. Thanks.

Nate, you know from being over at Rabbi's forum that John isn't very high on my list of favorite people. I'd appreciate that you not plug him on TGO. Thanks.

How many cameras were aimed at me???

My BUG is probably more concealed and yet easily accessible than my primary. I carry a S&W J-Frame revolver inside my front hip pocket.

I disagree.

"I don't condone what he did, but it's bringing to light the frustrations between the community and the police," said Uhuru Movement member Kihad Deen. "This gives people a chance to speak their minds." ... So basically this idiot is condoning what he did. Ah, the joys of relativism.

Why carry a firearm for self defense in the first place, then? Got a spare tire in your car or truck? When your firearm fails at the worst possible moment, you will quite literally have the rest of your life to worry about it. The problem is, the rest of your life at that time may only be measured in seconds.And where does that leave your wife / kids / family / friends who might now be left to fend for themselves against whoever just did you in? Your willingness to lay down in the dirt and die seems somewhat contradictory to some of the other statements you made in this post. God helps those who help themselves. If they live long enough to take advantage of it, of course. You're dead, so now your wife has to fend off the guy who just killed you. But he might decide to have a little fun with her first. And then your kids.Let me be clear; you might end up dying anyway in the effort to defend your family. But why not stack the deck in your favor and take the bastard down with you? This is all entirely your prerogative and I'll leave you alone about it after this post. I do think that it's a bit silly for you to even be carrying a gun. Maybe you should send your wife through a class and let her protect you instead.Edited to add: Listen, I realize that some of what I said in this post may be conceived as being a bit harsh, but let's be men here and talk about this frankly. We aren't discussing your golf handicap or the weather. We're talking about life and death. Not just yours, but the lives (and perhaps deaths) of your loved ones. We're talking about your decision to go armed to protect yourself and them against some really evil **** that stalks the unaware in this world. Having a realistic assessment of this fundamental truth and preparing yourself to deal with it should the situation arise is not being paranoid. It's called being prepared. You're halfway there since you have undertaken it to arm yourself. I encourage you... no, I implore you... to consider all of the angles before carelessly dismissing the use of a backup weapon as the domain of police officers and soldiers. That sort of thinking is what the Leftists use to argue against civilian gun ownership in the first place. So, if I've offended you in this post... good; that means I got your attention. That's all I am trying to do. I'm not trying to offend you for the sake of making a random stranger mad. I'm just trying to get you to reconsider some of the narrow-minded and completely contradictory statements that you made. Good luck and stay safe.

Again, those who say they see no need for a BUG really should consider taking at least one good instructor led defensive handgun class. Even barring an equipment failure, you may find that it is faster to resort to your BUG than reload; you may suffer a debilitating injury or find yourself in a position physically where accessing your primary weapon is impossible; or you may need to quickly arm a companion to help in the fight. There are plenty of reasons to carry a BUG.

Wow... looking at a few of those pictures I can see just how good the married life has been. I need to eat a damn salad!

Understood and thank you for the correction.

I hope everyone else here realizes that it is not a smart idea to confess to a criminal offense on the Internet like this. Carrying without a HCP can earn a person a serious amount of jail time and a mark on their record that very likely will not go away without a very expensive fight. Carrying without a permit is a sure fire way to forever lose your right to get a permit. Furthermore, we do have rules here and I suggest that the Original Poster read them again and pay particular attention to Rule #5 [link] where we strictly forbid discussion of illegal activities. This sort of thing is not kosher and it gives the law abiding HCP holding community a black eye. I am appalled and extremely embarrassed by the fact that it was admitted to by one of TGO's members, especially in this day and age when so many media outlets are salivating at the chance to destroy our 2nd Amendment Rights. Frankly, my first inclination is to permanently ban Mr. I Am Wood from TGO for having such careless disregard for the integrity of the TGO community. I'm going to have to discuss this some with the rest of the moderators to make sure that I'm not off track.

Excellent! I can't tell you how much better life is when your spouse enjoys the things you enjoy and vice versa. Having a wife that likes to go shooting with me is just one of the many ways that I feel blessed.

All it took was attending a good defensive handgun class for me to see why thinking like that could get me killed. I'd recommend you do the same.