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This won't be a problem. She has the permit and has control of the firearm. Think about it this way: Is your brother-in-law supposed to know what random strangers he passes in Wal-mart are carrying? He likely comes into close proximity with countless firearms and never realizes it. What the parole officer was warning is that he should not be caught in possession of a firearm. The PO just exaggerated quite a bit for impact, I'm sure. People do it all the time. People acting in official capacity are expected not to.

Copied from Shooting Wire Tip From Tiger: SURPRISE By Tiger McKee The main reason some people attack other people - barring mental instability - is because they think they can get away with it. As Clint Smith says, "if you look like food, you'll get eaten." We volunteer to be food by not being aware of our surroundings, and telling predators through nonverbal communication, body language, that are an easy victim. To avoid being a 'target' we present body language that says we're confident and prepared, plus maintain awareness, using our senses to monitor our environment. If forced to fight we counterattack using speed and aggressive actions. We win the fight by forcing our opponent(s) to decide that we're not the victims they expected, or by gaining compliance through gunfire, inflicting enough physical damage that they can't continue to fight. Body language is critical to not appearing as food. Keep your spine erect, shoulders back, eyes up, and walk with confidence. Shuffling along with your head down, shoulders drooping, and feet scuffing the ground, tells predators you are already beaten, you're just looking for someone to finish you off. When it comes to body language, speak confidently. Use your senses to maintain awareness of your environment. Keep your eyes up, constantly scanning. While scanning, don't look to make sure everything is alright. This will cause you to miss something important. Get into the habit looking for something out of place, a sign that something is not right. I see possible trouble, and begin formulating my response in advance. Pay attention to your other senses as well. Being visually oriented creatures, we sometimes fail to pay attention to our other senses. You're walking in a parking lot at night when you hear someone running behind you. Look to see who it is and what they are doing. Don't let yourself be surprised you something you should have noticed. When forced to fight, we immediately respond with aggressive actions. Remember, the attacker isn't expecting you to fight back. Speed, aggression, and surprise are important tactics. "I knew this could happen," you say to yourself, "and I have the skills to solve this problem." There is no time to freeze up or hesitate, and submitting is not an option. By fighting back you may be injured, but we know from recent events that curling up in the fetal position and hoping nothing happens doesn't work out well. A couple words of advice: Don't overestimate your abilities, and never underestimate your threat(s). These two things will put you in the hurt locker quickly. Practice and improve your skills, planning for the worst case scenario. Stay alert. Judge people on what their capabilities may be, not what you think their intentions are. When it's time to fight, think, and make a decision, and respond immediately with aggressive actions. Make the threat(s) respond to your actions, instead of constantly responding to what's being done to you. Think about it this way - once the fight starts, you become the predator. Surprise! --Tiger McKee Tiger is director of Shootrite Firearms Academy, located in northern Alabama, author of The Book of Two Guns (Book of Two Guns) , a staff member of several firearms/tactical publications, and an adjunct instructor for the F.B.I. You can reach Tiger at (256) 582-4777 or learn more about his outstanding instruction at Shootrite Firearms Academy.

Yes, but depending on who you get your email through you may not ever see the notifications. Some ISPs block them as spam. Google Gmail doesn't, so I recommend that people use it.

Sure you can ship anything in-state. Is the Savage stock wood or poly?

Jennings... it seems like you're trying to run your post count up. You might want to review the Announcements forum if you're trying to hit 50 posts so that you can sell something in the Trading Post. The Trading Post is now a Benefactor perk. The 50-posts thing isn't relevant anymore.

Why does it matter where someone does or doesn't want you to buy your ammo? This thread really seems like it exists to do nothing more than slam someone who isn't here to defend themselves. The originator of this thread has made their point so I'm closing it rather than allow it to devolve. It sounds to me as though the moral of the story is to buy your ammo at Wal-Mart before gun shop owners do.

And TGO members are on more gun forums than just this one. TFA and TGO have the same goals, we just go about them differently. I'm sorry if my comments ruffled feathers but the truth hurts sometimes. We are a much more active community here because not everyone who is interested in firearms is initially interested in politics. The more people on TGO learn about the issues surrounding the hobby we love, the more they become willing to think about the political aspects. I'm not saying that the TFA isn't instrumental. They are. I'm just not buying for a single second that TGO isn't more effective at reaching out to the people who wouldn't normally give the TFA a second thought, educating them on the issues, and getting them interested in making a difference. Make no mistake; I'm not trying to toot my own horn. The credit is due to the members of TGO. They make up the site. They keep it active. I just sweep the floors and try to keep the place running smoothly.

Guys, don't worry about offending me with replies to the thread. I'm just trying to provoke thought on the issue and see what people believe we are accomplishing with these edicts. I was baptized Lutheran so I'm all for disgruntled folks nailing a 10th Amendment Thesis on the door of the Supreme Court if that's what it comes down to. My question essentially revolves around the mettle of the people these days and whether we as a society have the same stuff in us that our forefathers did. The stuff that makes common men and women lay aside the luxuries of life and risk everything to throw off the chains of tyranny. My fear is that the majority don't. People have grown fat and lazy, content to suck at the Government tit for all their needs. Somewhere along the line, the status quo shifted and people forgot that a government big enough to do everything for you is big enough to do anything to you. Our great-great-grandkids are so screwed.

Lots of good info there. Thanks! I've been accumulating lumber for the past few days and have just about everything I need to tackle it this weekend. My new Lyman 2500 tumbler is due in soon also, so I guess I'll start getting my brass cleaned up before the press ever arrives.

I mean no disrespect to John, but the TFA forum is pretty void of activity. Way back in TGO's infancy, there were some comments made to the effect that we should join forces with the TFA and revitalize their forum. I thought it over and decided that there was no benefit to TGO for doing so since even in that early stage we had already blown past the TFA forum in terms of activity and membership. That being said, I see no reason why anyone should scurry over there to discuss the issue unless they just want to join the TFA and participate on their forums. We're more than capable of discussing it here as is evidenced by the sheer volume of people talking about it on TGO as compared to talking about it over there. Also, John does post here occasionally as well. He did so recently in regard to the restaurant carry deliberations when he wanted to get more people calling their representatives. I am very happy to have him here and hope that he'll continue visiting and participating with us. Edited to add... I just read some more of your post and it struck me that you were implying that TFA is more instrumental in affecting change at the State level than TGO based on the metric of number of TGO hats present on Capital Hill versus the numbers of John Harrises present. I'm glad that you are pro TFA. I'm pro TFA also and think people should support John's efforts. But I'm pretty sure that we do a good job of motivating people to call their representatives. Even if only a quarter of our members make calls and send emails, you're talking about nearly 1,000 people. That's pretty good mobilization. There's a reason why John came here to solicit people to call and email their Representatives: Sheer numbers

I think it really boiled down to them assuming that they didn't need to do any advertising based on the volume of business they already do. My question to people like that is generally, don't you want more business? TGO has a proven track record of generating new business for gun shops, ranges, smiths, etc. I guess some folks would rather let the advertising go to their competitors though.

You're absolutely right. The XD45 Compact was the perfect size also. I don't know why I sold mine now.

Holy crap... $75 to transfer a new gun? And they acted like they couldn't afford to advertise with TGO a few weeks ago.

Well, that's pretty much why I am pessimistic about this. Aside from being a waste of tax payer dollars to pay our legislators to sit around and push this through the system, this affirmation has no teeth. The southern states were unable to secede from the Union and they are far more organized. Does anyone really think that a modern US State could possibly secede? It just won't happen. Period.

I agree with that even though I carry my M&P 40 far more than I carry my Glock 19 these days. The 19 is the best Glock that they have ever produced as far as I'm concerned. I like it a lot better than it's fraternal twin, the Glock 23. The M&P compact is just a little too small. The M&P standard model is just a little too big. An M&P .40SW or 9mm in the same size frame as the M&P 45 compact would be perfect.

Oh, I agree that a return to our Constitutional roots is good... I just don't really see what we are accomplishing with this. Maybe it's just the eternal pessimist in me.

So tell me exactly what this accomplishes?

We obtained my wife's JG edition from Bud's Gun Shop and did the transfer through The Outpost Armory. S&W M&P9JG 9mm 4.25 17 JGOLOSKI for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $587.00 They are out of stock right now but you can sign up to have them notify you when they arrive again. I know that Guns & Leather sometimes has them in stock so you can call up there and ask for Daniel to see if they have any. We almost got my wife one there about a month ago, but she couldn't decide at the time.

It's not too late to switch.

TGO Database That database has some in it. The cheapest place close to Spring Hill that I have found is still The Outpost over in Christiana. About a 30-40 minute drive for you.

On his prayer rug, toward Mecca.

Long time no see! Drop me a PM sometime and let's catch up. Rifles look great!

Any creep from the gas block yet? I really wish the thing used a pinned design instead of hex screws. Locktite may keep the screws from backing out, but a pinned design would keep the block in place. I'd live with the machining required if they'd do a pinned version.

They claim it works fine on wood but I haven't tried it yet.

Another idea for you... On May 16th we are holding our first Middle TN Meet & Shoot for the 2009 season down in Spring Hill. It is an outdoor range, very nice facility, and there are always a lot of folks from TGO present. My wife will be there and I'm sure some of the other ladies from TGO will be as well. It would be a good opportunity to come out, meet some of the other ladies and undoubtedly get a chance to shoot more guns than you can shake a stick at. These are all great folks and the experience levels range from complete newbie to those who have been around guns pretty much their entire lives. Best of all, it's completely low-pressure and cheap outdoor fun. Stop by and join us!