TGO David

Temporarily disabling his account and sending him an email. Will leave the account disabled until he gets his computer squared away.

Sounds like a reading comprehension problem. This thread isn't about shooting yourself because of your holster. And if you're shooting a 1911, you can afford a better holster than a SERPA. Then you've never done the drill that the original post was about. Again, reading comprehension. Read the first post. Was it even remotely dealing with this problem? Holy crap... this wins the honor of being the most unsuspected wild-ass tangent to come up in a SERPA holster thread. No, I don't think you could do that with an automatic. Revolvers typically have thin little pencil-like barrels whereas automatics have squarish slides unless you're shooting a P-38 or a Luger. And the Cav used leather holsters so obviously there was a little give in the material. The Blackhawk SERPA is injection molded plastic with no give. You can't put a square peg into a square hole and then rotate the peg. Not in this reality at least.

I swear... This thread wasn't started to debate whether or not you're going to shoot yourself in the ass as soon as you remove the SERPA holster from it's packaging. It was started to alert people to the possibility of a fatal flaw in the design should it be used to do "injured shooter" drills, or worse yet, in a real situation where you ARE the injured shooter. It's one thing to have a failure like this on the firing line in a class. It's another thing entirely to have a failure like this in real life when the S has already HTF. Think about that! The only reason you'd be inserting your sidearm into the holster backwards would be to do a one-handed reload because your other hand and/or arm was injured. Then your gun CLICKS into place and won't come out due to the SERPA lock jamming against your front sight. You're already shot once... now you're really screwed. If your particular SERPA holster doesn't have the plastic tab, awesome. Ignore this thread and enjoy life.

Says the guy who replied 7 minutes after I posted it?

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Copying this from M4Carbine.net ... it should be particularly of interest to those who have performed the weak-hand drill described in this post at any number of training programs that teach it. I know for a fact that we did this plenty at the CIS Defensive Pistol class but I don't recall anyone taking that class with the combination of gear described herein. Todd & Dustin... might be a good one to keep on file. ----8<---------------------------------- During a recent training event, an officer in a partner agency experienced a problem with his Glock 21 and Blackhawk Serpa holster combination. During support-hand, single-hand drills, he inserted his G21 into his Serpa holster backwards during a drill. When he attempted to draw the gun from the holster, it was locked into place. Removal of the gun required partial disassembly of the holster. The holster operated as designed. The problem can be duplicated. Examine the inside of an empty holster. Along the back wall, there's a plastic bar that starts in front of the trigger guard and ends about halfway to the bottom of the holster. As the gun is inserted, that bar is compressed against the holster body by the dust cover, creating a friction fit. If you insert the gun upside down as described, that lever is compressed first by the front sight, then by the balance of the slide, creating the same friction fit. The trouble starts after the front sight clears the end of that bar. The FS is taller than the slide, and after the end of the bar clears the FS, the bar snaps down onto the slide. When you try to pull the gun back out, the bar catches the FS locking the gun in place. You can correct the problem by removing the screw that holds the bar in place, or you can slide a long narrow paddle of some sort in to raise the bar above the FS allowing it to clear. Fatal flaw: This cannot be corrected while in the fight. The gun is stuck. I could duplicate this holster failure with Glocks 17, 21, and 23 and the appropriate Serpa for each. Unknown how other designs might be impacted. If users insist on keeping the Serpa, they must not employ this particular method of refunctioning the gun during such drills. There are many other, high quality, holster options which have no such problems. Photos of the problem with a G21 follow.

With Clarksville being on the border of the Ft. Campbell Army base, there have to be plenty of movers up there. Perhaps someone with experience using one of them will spot this and chime in.

This thread wasn't started as a discussion of WHY. The people who want to use the form know WHY they want to use it. The people who don't use the form won't be convinced, so there's no reason to debate it. Coincidentally, the people who won't use the form also won't be sold a gun by me either.

There's always the option of shooting some moly resin on the slide after it's been milled.

Smith & Wesson completed the work and shipped the firearm back to me yesterday. I should have it tomorrow. All told this has taken about four weeks, which I suppose isn't bad but it would have been excruciating were this my only firearm. Of course no sane person would own just one firearm. I have a Glock. I wanted something nicer.

[/url]The Safe House can probably help you with that. With it coming out of the back of a truck with no lift-gate and just a rattly metal ramp, I don't think I'd want to be the guy trying to do it by hand.

Yep, we typically run up to September or October before the weather gets too chilly for scheduled events.

Um, typically not in a 5.56 or .223 as the powder charge almost entirely fills the case.

When in Rome, do as the Romans. In other words... it's not worth losing your job over this.

Yeah, the cabinet isn't very difficult to come by. I'm just making sure that this one is set up to handle a variety of different configurations, possibly including powder coatings.

Media blasting where appropriate.

Majority will always rule. I'm sure someone could sub for you once at the charity facility if that's the only way you can make it.

It does look that way. I'm in the process of getting a larger curing oven put together. That is practically the only fly in the ointment right now. Hope to have it done soon.

I guess "better" is subjective. More rugged, perhaps. My VZ Grips Alien grips are quite a bit more grippy. Moreso than wood even. These Alumagrips are a little thinner and less likely to grab onto cover garments, though.

Thank you. Thanks... yeah it did knock a bit of the shine off. It's kind of in keeping with the tan color plastic grips that came on the gun from the factory. Gracias. Am not! Thanks, sweetcheeks.

Soon.

I think it turned out pretty good.

I'm no 1911 purist but there's no way I'd use that in a self-defense weapon. Gaming? Sure. If it eats cheese on a stage, no big deal... you just go home a loser that day. But if it does that during a self-defense situation, you might not go home that day at all. K.I.S.S.

Ok... grip panels are out of the oven and the moly has cured on them. They look freaking awesome. Will take some pics after they cool and I'm able to put them back on the Kimber.

Justin, I received your PM but haven't responded yet simply because I'm still in the stages of getting everything set up. If you haven't gone with someone else before I get ready to go with this, I'll get back with you. I'd recommend the Moly Resin product over Duracoat.