TGO David

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

These douchebags have a lot of firearms related forums and sites blocked on their Sonicwall WiFi appliance. In fact, I'm amazed that I am able to use their network to access TGO. They don't post on the door but they don't want you looking at gun sites either. Maybe I'll clean my gun here at the table before we leave.

Pretty much. Here's the deal, Skippy. I don't mind answering legitimate questions and enjoy sharing the things that I've learned along the way. You've asked for some clarification in that reply and I'm happy to provide it. The problem is you've kind of made yourself a Sh-t Magnet with some of the things you've said in a few other threads. I chalk it up to you being young and thinking you know a lot more about life than you really do. I was there once and probably annoyed some folks too. If you want to be accepted here, I'd suggest a lower-profile for a while until you figure out what the status quo is around here. 20lpi refers to the 20 lines per inch checkering on the backstrap of the main spring housing. On my Kimber, the main spring housing (MSH) is an aftermarket piece made by MARS Armament that also incorporates an enlarged magazine well that helps funnel the mag into the frame a little quicker under stress. The lanyard loop is built into the MSH and is not visible in any of the pictures that I posted. Since you pointed that out, I realized that I should have taken a picture of that as it's actually kind of a cool piece. I'll try to do that later today and add a picture. And finally, the sights are a custom piece made by Hilton Yam over at 10-8 Performance. He is a professional SWAT dude down in Florida and a very well respected authority on building utilitarian "fighting" 1911s. The sights sit higher to clear a suppressor if you wanted to add one, and the rear sight is notched heavily to provide a solid hook for racking the slide one-handed using a table, your belt, holster, rock, something.

As a business owner, I would love to find the person who originally started advocating that nonsense and then punch them in the neck. That is perhaps one of the biggest lies in retail that for some reason has become an accepted truth just because everyone has heard it at some point. The customer is not always right, period. Customers frequently think that they are right about what they want until a sales consultant shows them a better option, more perfectly suited to their situation or needs. A smart customer realizes this and allows a sales consultant the chance to earn their trust and business. If you base "rightness" on the power of a customer to potentially give a business their money, you completely discount the fact that sometimes customers are truly clueless about what is best. Any moron can sell you exactly what you ask for as long as they are willing to disengage their sense of ethics and don't mind facilitating your mistakes. An ethical, honest businessman will take the risk of losing the sale just to make sure that they aren't complicit in you choosing poorly. Think about that some.

First let me get this out of the way: Joe is a friend and automatically anything I say about him is going to be translated by someone as me just taking up for him. The truth is that I have no problem telling my friends that they're being a dick, when they're being a dick. So no free rides here. That said... I have personally witnessed Joe bending over backwards to make deals happen for customers, sometimes at a loss to himself. Scratch that, frequently it has been at a margin where it had to be a loss for him on that particular sale. Why he does that is pretty clear: He wants to earn people's business as repeat customers. Joe's shop wouldn't be growing exponentially every year if he treated people like you have described. In fact what worries me is that the tone of what you wrote almost suggests that you intend to start spreading the word that Joe @ Hero Gear is a jerk and won't wheel and deal with people on prices. If you've never set foot in his store and dealt with him, please don't start a rumor like that based off of your impressions in this thread. Not about Joe, not about anyone. We are extremely fortunate to have top notch stores represented here as Authorized Vendors and none of them, to my knowledge, have ever treated people the way that you more or less described. In fact, there has only been one shop represented on TGO that had a questionable attitude toward prospective customers and that shop lost their Vendor status as a result. Like Joe said, there are two ways to find out what the business practices are of any of our vendors: Ask around or shop there. TGO often serves as a place where people can come and blow off some steam and express frustrations about certain industry aspects in the company of friends. That privilege extends even to our Vendors. I ask that you respect that freedom by reading the things said here in context of their intended spirit rather than extrapolating incorrect ideas from them and then using those assumptions to label people. Thanks.

Nothing at all. Shima asked for Jason's help in this forum as his own employer has been working him like a rented mule lately. Massive overtime. Jason is a true enthusiast and is always buying, selling and trading for cool new toys. I'm glad he accepted the offer and I'm sure Shima is as well.

Hang on a minute. You seem to be the one getting defensive here. Joe was replying in a "Devil's Advocate" sort of fashion and was using your comments as the opposing side in the same spirit. He wasn't accusing you of anything from what I read.

For purely target shooting purposes I see no problem with it. Many of us who practice shooting ambidextrously for "injured shooter drills" would be hampered with that sort of grip design.

Bowling tonight with the Smith & Wesson M&P 340 in an A-Holster pocket rig. We're thinking about going back later when they do unlimited bowling after midnight. If we do, the Glock 19 is going with me inside it's MTAC. (The freaks come out at that place after 1am when the clubs all start closing down)

Glad to hear that you guys had a good time! How many showed up today?

I can't seem to find your picture thread.

Gouging aside, are gun dealers just not supposed to make money anymore or what? I'm glad I don't own a gun shop. I'd probably last about as long as it took me to run out of rent money, because I'd constantly being telling some cheap jerk where he could go get a gun for free: by enlisting.

I hate haggling and have always priced anything I've sold below retail and at a price point where I'm making what I need to get out of it while the buyer was assured of getting a sweet deal in the process. It's just easier to use the "CarMax Mentality" when I sell guns. Here's the price, it's not only reasonable but also a great deal, no haggling required and we all go home happy. Why some folks refuse to do it that way is anyone's guess. I can't help but wonder, however, if the people who expect top dollar for their used gear are the same ones who nickle and dime gun shops to death, and expect the shop owner to literally pay them to take their guns.

Today: M&P 40 in MTAC and SOG Xray Vision. It may change later... I'm getting the itch to tote the Kimber around some more.

I heard about this yesterday. Post pics or die.

Compensating. Gotcha.

Please never run for an elected office. Those are the new pictures.

It's cool to see so many 1911's being carried here. I ended up switching over to my M&P 40 this afternoon in MTAC holster and a spare mag in a Comp-Tac pouch on the opposite side. Took the Kimber back down to Jeff Meister at Hero Gear to do a little more fitting on the front sight.

Emblem on the door is for a 6.0L PSD. Looks good, but dayyyyyyym, Mike... why'd you go for a long bed???

Also... this is a specialty office, NOT internal medicine.

No. Someone else loaded the mag and handed it to me. The .40SW was down inside the mag somewhere. It's easier to screw up than you think, especially when people are standing around talking, shooting and loading and not paying 100% attention to the ammo they are dipping into. Easy mistake.

My wife's medical office is looking to fill a staff position with a qualified Medical Assistant (MA), Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) or a Registered Nurse (RN). This opportunity is available immediately. Hours are really cushy for the medical profession. Monday through Friday only, 40hrs a week, roughly 8am - 5pm with some variation inside that window. My wife has worked for this company for about a year and a half now and serves as the lead nurse on staff. She loves working there and will be participating in the interviewing process. If you or someone you know is interested, qualified, and lives within the greater Nashville area and needs a good job ... let me know!

Pretty cool. What options did you go with?

Got you covered.

Society thanks you.