TGO David

There is a way to become a Benefactor by mailing a check. I don't want to be the bad guy here, but there are dozens of people on TGO who have invested into the community and some of them only because we require it for them to post ads. If I don't handle it fairly across the board, it is a meaningless program. Sorry, but this thread has to go. Honestly, this sort of thread really should result in a ban from the forum for at least 30 days and probably will from now on. I'm not doing it this time because I really don't want to be a dick, but you honestly couldn't walk into a store and steal a $20 item just because you didn't have a credit card to pay for it with and not expect punishment when caught.

That's the way Kentucky approaches it. They also differentiate between BARS and restaurants though. It's illegal to carry into a bar up there. Any drinking/dining establishment that gets 51% of it's revenue from food sales is legal to carry in.

There is no decal. They are all embroidered. Come to the October 17th event at Outpost and you can order a shirt there and I'll do my best to have some size options for our more "profound" members as well. If I don't stop eating Halloween Oreos, I'll need one myself. There aren't any shirts other than a few that I produced for the moderators a while back. None of them have pockets. A couple of the moderators and I attended one of the Guns n' Bars (or was that Guns IN Bars? I can't remember...) court hearings a while back and someone got a picture of us sitting there with our TGO embroidered shirts. I think John Harris was wearing one too. Or maybe they just associated him with us. Not sure. Here's the situation: These shirts cost money to produce and shirt sizes are harder to predict stock quantities for than hats because there is such a huge variance in the stature of our members. Anyone who attends the Oct 17th Second or None event [link] will be able to order a shirt for themselves. It will be a pre-pay arrangement. I'm not going to get stuck with the bill and a bunch of shirts. It's happened in the past and I'm just not going down that road again. Embroidery takes about 2 weeks and shirts will be mailed out to their owners as soon as they are done. I'll have several different style options available. Hope this helps.

Oh... that's Hillary Clinton's new ride.

Outpost Armory, Hero Gear, Guns & Leather all charge fair prices for their transfers and are actual gun shops. Belshire Hardware is... well... a hardware store. Fine for hammers and nails. I prefer to help support the shops that support the TGO community.

Absolutely amazing.

Understood. We have seen several companies express interest but also express their regret for not being able to because of tight budgets. None the less, we're going to have an amazing event and hopefully the JROTC program will still benefit greatly from it.

As Fallguy said, Oct 17th is the Second or None celebration hosted by Barrett Firearms, Outpost Armory and TGO. Maybe the 18th is a better option?

NEW YORK — New York is seeing red over the decision to turn the city's highest beacon — and one of America's symbols for free enterprise — into a shining monument honoring China's communist revolution Wednesday night. The Empire State Building is set to be illuminated in red and yellow lights to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the bloody communist takeover. The tower is lit in white most nights, but nearly every week gets splashed with color to honor holidays and heroes — red, white and blue for Independence Day, green for St. Patrick's Day, true blue for New York's Finest. The building's managers say they have honored a host of countries, including Canada, India and Australia, but as of Wednesday that list of honorees now includes one of the world's last great authoritarian regimes. Read more here: Empire State Building Goes Red for Communist China, Sparking Protest - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

He was also Leonidas in 300.

I do not have that information, but let me clarify: Companies who make their donation to the Rutherford County Junior ROTC are allowed to set up a booth or table or display at the event in exchange for their generosity. As you may or may not already be aware, the Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps program exists "to instill in students in [united States] secondary educational institutions the values of citizenship, service to the United States, and personal responsibility and a sense of accomplishment." At the cadet level, the JROTC... Develops good citizenship and patriotism Develops self-reliance, leadership, and responsiveness to constituted authority. Improves the ability to communicate well both orally and in writing. Develops an appreciation of the importance of physical fitness. Increases a respect for the role of the US Armed Forces in support of national objectives. Develops a knowledge of team building skills and basic military skills. Allows the cadets to instantly rank higher if they pursue a military career provided that they participate for 2-4 years in the JROTC program. So these $500 - $1000 booths that you're asking about benefit some of the finest young people in Rutherford County's school systems. I don't think that's such a bad thing and hopefully neither do the local businesses. As for the actual costs of the event itself, we can all thank Barrett Firearms, Inc. and The Outpost Armory for signing the check since no one attending will have to pay anything unless they opt to eat a tasty lunch, the profits from which once again go to the JROTC program.

That is correct.

Yep... we've got it set as a recurring recording on our HD DVR, but hopefully I'll get to watch it live tonight as well.

It's one of those aspects of the community that I guess I never really felt much need to explain but I'll happily copy and paste from the admin control area what the various self-incrementing titles are. TGO Freshman becomes TGO Member after 50 posts and 30 days. TGO Member becomes TGO Senior Member after 500 posts and 180 days.

Don't forget the official Bacon Bra (potentially nws link, although still PG).

I hereby appoint clsutton21 the TGO Minister of Bacon.

Sheesh... someone keeps leaving the door unlocked.

Ya know... I've had it with this silliness. For some reason the tactic of openly arguing with the moderators has become your new thing, and we do have a rule against that as well. We ask that you take it up with moderators in private, but you've chosen to do it publicly several times lately. One week TEMPORARY time-out for you. This will give you time to cool down and reconsider this approach to things. And for what it's worth, my suggestion wasn't an attack on Ralph. It was merely an idea that would give him ample exposure to a Socialist society and allow him to form more educated opinions on the matter in the future. Sort of like how a temporary ban will help you make a more educated opinion on whether or not you want to keep shoving moderators noses in things you don't like in the future. This thread is done.

Can we take up a collection and buy Ralph a one way ticket to the former Soviet Union so that he can experience socialized medicine first hand?

So your complaint with health insurance rather than health care. Just to be clear, because there are two totally different worlds in the health services industry. You have the providers and then you have the companies who are making serious bank off of what the providers do for their patients. Doctors aren't paid nearly as much as most people think, especially if you divide their salaries by the number of hours they work. The people who are getting fat and wealthy from the efforts of doctors, nurses, etc. are the companies that employ them and to a much greater degree the insurance companies.

Did I miss where there is documented, irrefutable, unbiased proof provided by a disinterested third party that unequivocally bears forth that the MAJORITY of Americans want health care reform? I'll concede that most people think that the health insurance companies need to be better regulated, but I won't concede that health care needs to be improved, nor will I concede that Americans do not have universal access to health care at a very basic level.

I'm going to pirate some music tonight just for you. Only because I'm sure that God feels it's a shame that the human ability to produce music is considered an "industry".

Worriedman, the Hitler quote is actually a pretty well documented fake.

I'm curious as to whether you, a musician by trade, have any practical experience within the medical industry other than as a patient, or if your apparent favor toward a socialized medicine program stems solely from the perspective of a consumer thinking it would be great to have Mother Government meet all of your health care needs. Half of my household works in the health care industry and I can assure you that the prospect of socialized medicine doesn't look quite so rosy from our perspective. Not because it would jeopardize our financial solvency, but because we actually do have some practical insight on how the system will change and it's going to SUCK for the patient.

Civility on the part of all involved in debate here on TGO is not just requested, it is demanded. As long as the issues are the only things being attacked, all is well. When members begin attacking members, the moderators have to intervene. If you feel that a person is simply trolling for a reaction, shut them down by refusing to participate in the thread or reply to their remarks. When you do this you not only remove fuel for the fire, but you also make it very obvious to the forum administration who is here to cause strife and who is here to engage in intelligent exchange of opinion. The people who are here just to cause strife will be removed. But (!!!) do not presume that just because a person holds an opinion that is 180-degrees out from that of the majority will be removed just because they are rubbing people's fur the wrong way. They have to be guilty of trying to incite unrest by purely trolling for reactions before I will remove them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, wrong as they may be in some cases.