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The Canik gets so little love from the mainstream gun culture, but it is a legitimate shooter's gun. If someone like Springfield slapped their name on it, I think the gun world would rave about it. And I love my Walther PDP. It's sitting on my desk right now.

Bob, I want to start by thanking you for increasing my enjoyment of this M&P. Seriously. You've made owning this one even better than I could have imagined. Being totally frank with you, that is probably the only thing you've increased the enjoyment of around here. This isn't my first M&P nor is it the only one in my house. I think we have about seven of them right now between my wife and myself, and except for this issue of cross-threaded optics mounting screws, none of them have caused me any trouble. We have put actual thousands of rounds through them in a variety of high round-count defensive pistol classes over the past 14-years, in the mud, in the heat, in the rain and bone dry. They've always just worked and always had more than acceptable accuracy. I say this because you've basically disparaged a whole section of your fellow gun owners on TGO and I don't want anyone else to read your bull#### believe for a second that they should feel bad about their own choice of gun any more than other VP9 owners should feel bad because one of them makes dickish statements on a forum. But, back to how you've increased my enjoyment of this particular M&P. The last thing I really needed was another M&P, but since folks were raving about the incremental improvements of this recent evolution, I thought I might as well pick one up and give it a go. I also thought it would be fun to put an optic on it and go hurt some feelings of other gun snobs at the range by bringing a mid-tier pistol with a so-so rep and, without adding thousands of aftermarket parts to it, and outshooting some of them on qualification drills. Can't wait! Anyway, stop disparaging everyone else and enjoy that VP9, Bob. Not every gun has an anus at the end of the slide, but HK certainly knows how to cater to their niche. (This is the anus at the end of the VP9. It's not the anus at the end of the gun that you might have thought I was referring to.)

Don't break a hip reaching for a punchline or your next mediocre Teutonic snob blaster, Bob.

Update 21-FEB-2022 Five weeks after I shipped it and four weeks after Smith & Wesson checked it into their systems, my new Optics-Ready M&P M2.0 Compact arrived back home today. And it appears that all is well. Rejoicing has occurred. A quick glance at the letter provided inside of the carton showed that Smith and Wesson opted to take the best and most efficient path to resolution and simply replaced the slide with one that hadn't been bunged-up. The new slide has optics mounting screws that aren't cross-threaded and that are appropriately easy to install and remove. I tried it a few times to be sure, and feel that S&W probably did the same before shipping it back out. All said, I am satisfied with the quality of the repair and, again, must recognize that they completed the work sooner than they originally estimated. In fact, they completed sooner than they even told me they would when I checked on the gun just six-days ago. When I contacted them last Tuesday, they were estimating that a gunsmith would see it this week which itself would have been 2-3 weeks sooner than originally predicted. They beat that estimate by a week and beat the overall estimate by three weeks. Not bad. But I will stick to my guns and say it's not good either. This whole thing could have been avoided with some simple quality assurance checks before the gun ever left the factory in the first place, and that more than just a couple of weeks for a service of this nature is not as good as it could or should be. While I am glad to have it back and am happy that it didn't require a full two-months to return to me, I still think something like this should only take 1-2 weeks, at most, to resolve. I'll grudgingly give them a pass since we live in these unprecedented times (let's all gag a little at reading that) in which the US Government competes against industry and makes it viable for laborers to sit on their butts at home rather than join the workforce. But, hey... BIG THANKS to the technicians and service people at Smith & Wesson who ARE showing up for work! Were it not for them, this gun would still be sitting in a pile somewhere. Now, I need to put an optic on this thing and see how it runs. I'm starting to feel some of the same excitement that I did when I first opened the box a month ago. With, you know, that whole delay in there.

The seller can contact you privately if he wants to discuss your offer.

I serve with a couple of deputies every Sunday. I'll ask them next time.

May have left it on by accident?

We have thread pirates here. sir.

Good conversation for another thread?

I hate to hear about the Shield and the Sig, but I am sadly not surprised. All of these manufacturers seem to be struggling to balance the pursuit of profitability with providing quality products and services. I don't think it will get better anytime soon. At best I think we can just hope that the situation doesn't deteriorate any more than it already has. It's going to take decades for industry -- in general -- to climb out of the hole it is presently in. More than 12 years ago I interacted with Smith & Wesson customer service to get some parts for an early M&P that I owned. That experience was top-notch and lightning fast. Granted, if they got it right in this current interaction, they will have actually returned the gun to me four weeks ahead of their stated schedule. I can't complain too much about that even though I would have preferred that the estimate been four weeks and they returned it in half of that. But I'll take what I got. I just hope that my M&P arrives and that the work that they have done is satisfactory.

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Looking forward to seeing FKMan posting more.

Heck yes.

Yeah, I’ve had two of them to date but HK proved how much they hated me by releasing the optics ready version and discovered the magic of 17rd magazines after I’d bought the second one.

I kind of want one, though. I think @bobsguns has been waging subliminal warfare.

Or a VP9 if they really want to mess with me.

UPDATE for 17-FEB-20022 Yes, only three days have passed since my last update, however... my M&P shipped back today! I received a FedEx tracking number earlier this afternoon and it is currently scheduled to be delivered in the next few days. I have no idea what they've done to it yet, but I guess I will know more once it arrives. Stay tuned!

Thanks! I just put it on the postage scale and, with Skiff bearings just installed this evening, it comes in at 3.8 ounces.

No worries man! Just wanted you to know that you can lock 'em down.

I edited it for you, but members can also edit their own sale ads and change the Prefix and Tags to "Ad Closed". When they do this, the forum comes along later and locks the ad for them.

UPDATE for 15-FEB-20022 Yesterday marked four weeks since Smith & Wesson checked the handgun into their systems. I called them today, for the first time since returning the gun, to see where my case was at within the expected progression of events. The gentleman I spoke with was super polite and spoke with his supervisor to get a better estimate for me than what their software could provide. He said that he expects my gun to be seen by the repair team in about two more weeks, which would put me at the six-week mark. If they are able to pull that off, it will be two weeks ahead of the eight-week estimate they gave initially. I will make a note to check with them again sometime around March 1st.

I thought I would share some photos of a pocketknife that I picked up recently. This is the Peña Mula X-Series knife. It is a frame lock knife with titanium scales (mine has brown Micarta inlays) and an M390 blade. This knife packs a sheepsfoot profile blade with a respectable 3.25" length into a very slim, lightweight and classy package. It's the kind that you could whip out for a quick chore in an office setting without scaring the gentle people, but also has enough substance to it that you could use it for a defensive weapon if you had to. Specs are: Overall Length 7.625" Blade Length 3.25" Cutting Edge 3.125” Blade Material M390 Pivot: Ceramic Bearings. Detent: Ceramic Finish: Bead Blasted Body: Titanium. Pocket clip: Titanium Back spacer: Copper Anodized Pivot collar: Titanium You can expect to pay around $290 for one straight from PenaKnives.com if you are lucky to catch one in stock. Other retailers sell them and of course you'll see them traded/sold on the secondary market. Used, for maybe a little less money. New, for a bit more. The secondary market on popular knives tends to be a little "opportunistic" when it comes to pricing. I am pretty tickled with mine. It's got a good action to it, flips open authoritatively via the thumb studs, locks securely thanks to the well-tuned frame lock and detent, and the M390 steel holds an edge very well. I would imagine that my kids will be fighting over who inherits this one.

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