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I need to get outside and grill something... anything... this week or I am going to have to turn in my Man Card. The Kamado Joe is calling my name.

Tom Brady's 'final' career touchdown ball sells for over $518,000 at auction - CNN Can you imagine being the person who paid $518,000 for that football only to have Brady come right back out of retirement? That thing is now worth exactly $517,999 less than what they paid for it.

He can PM you.

No idea, really. I haven't shot the first round through it yet. If it performs well and the optics mounting system holds up, I'll probably sneak it into my carry rotation. The M&P has always agreed with me when I shoot them, so anything is possible.

My first MCH arrived today. I have another on order, but this one has the EDC head with dual output. It is their FDE finish with the Thyrm Switchback ring on it. The other on order is clear anodized and has the High Candella single-output head on it. That one will get carried on security duty because I've never done Force On Force training in the dark where I wished that I had anything less than ALL of the lumens. I'll let you guys know how I think the EDC version works, in a few hours.

Well, allow me to introduce my anus-free M&P. I've named him Bob. Bob Gun. He started off with a whole lot of derp, but I think he's going to be OK.

Got one of those too!

I've got a few Manix 2's and have to agree with you on this. I prefer the ambidextrous locking mechanism on the Manix. I bought my wife and oldest daughter each a Manix 2 in CruWear and purple Micarta a year or two ago when DLT Trading had them in as a sprint run.

The dimensions of this Hellcat PRO are very close to that of a Glock 19. The grip is 1/4" thinner which will help some folks who feel that the G19 is too big and chunky, but the slide on each is quoted as being 1" thick. To me, this sounds more like an option for those who don't want a Glock, more than it sounds like an option for someone who wants the lithe form-factor of the P365 or P365XL. It seems that those two would still feel and carry smaller than this Hellcat will. Just my guess.

Glock does a lot of things right. The MOS optics system isn't one of them, in my opinion. The screws that hold the plate to the gun are generally fine, but the plate itself is so thin that the optics screw doesn't have much material to thread into. This frequently causes problems when people use screws provided by their optics manufacturer, rather than the Glock provided screws, which can cause the screw to bottom-out and then arch the mounting plate. This leads to screw / plate failure. If you run an MOS Glock, you want an optics plate from Forward Control Design (1st choice) or CHPWS (2nd choice). These both have proven track records and are better than the Glock OEM plates. @Defender if you're going to stick with an RMR or a sight that uses the RMR footprint, don't sleep on that Zev slide I posted earlier. That is a new product from them, at a cheaper price point than I've seen before, and will likely sell out. Zev produces things in batches and once they're sold out, they stay that way few a while. If you want an optic mounting system that is both strong and flexible to allow you to change it up some as time passes or needs change, look at the Agency AOS slides like I am using on my G19 now. Omaha Outdoors had the best price on the Syndicate S2 slide that I am using but it was still around $500-ish.

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That's a spicy handgun! That gong had some swing to it, too!

I would have interpreted that as a "No" as well.

OPSEC. Don't advertise what you have. I know that we all do it to one degree or another here on the forum, but "out in the world" we need to keep a lid on it as much as possible.

Putin basically ended the COVID pandemic. I am so conflicted about him, on this one realization.

That's my kind of luck, too. Maybe it's true what they say, though? Two is one, and one is none. I stumbled across the CHPWS plate while educating myself on which optics the OSP takes. It looks like a good option.

Source: Hellcat® Pro OSP™ 9mm Handgun - Springfield Armory (springfield-armory.com) Basically, Springfield is giving us a Hellcat that takes the 15-round magazine without the need for a grip-extension on the mag, a slightly longer slide, and more beef in the right places. It's got the capacity of a Glock 19 with the width of a Hellcat and is optics-ready right out of the gate. It seems to have the same optics footprint as the regular Hellcat OSP, meaning it natively takes the HEX Wasp, JP Enterprises JPoint and Shield RMSc optics. If I am correct about the optics footprint, it also works with the Holosun 507K adapter plate that CHPWS makes. That adapter plate is very thin and just negates the fact that the Holosun 507K doesn't have holes for the rear recoil lugs on the Hellcat. Easy peasy. Reviews that I've seen for the new Hellcat Pro make it look really promising. I could probably be swayed to spend some cash on one, myself. Here's the best review that I've seen yet.

@Defender - You might also just consider putting an aftermarket slide on your G45. That way if you decided that a red dot wasn't really your cup of tea, you could just sell the aftermarket slide and put your OEM slide back on the frame. This slide would fit your G45 and is the cheapest I've seen, PLUS it is a good manufacturer! You'll pay less for this than having someone mill and re-finish your existing slide. ZEV Duty Stripped Slide For Glock 19 Gen 5 RMR Cut - Omaha Outdoors

It's worth the effort and expense to switch to one. The learning curve isn't near as bad as most folks assume that it will be.

It's actually very grippy. The texture almost feels like a carpenter's rasp. Lots of bite.