TGO David

I love my inlaws. I'm blessed to have them. Great bunch of people.

I'm iffy on this at the moment. It's not so much the weather as it is the fact that my back is, from time to time, still killing me. I'm going to just have to play it by ear. If you see me there tomorrow, I was there. If not... I wasn't. Sorry.

This is pretty much on par with what I had heard as well, and it delivered. I'm very accurate with my M&P40 as well, but the 45 is possibly the most accurate M&P that I have ever owned. It makes me look good.

I spent the day with my wonderful wife and her family.

You know, I wasn't even going for that angle and it's probably an issue that can probably be dropped sooner or later. My comment was simply a reflection on the fact that I've seen the whole "drop your gun immediately" thing attributed to Tactical Response instructors and/or students before. I can't remember exactly which it was, but I do remember taking mental note when I read it the first time ... wherever it was.

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Ooo... plastic. Because aluminum is sooooo heavy.

This. Same here.

The Pro is only available as a 9mm. Or was. Not sure what you're getting at, honestly. I guess it's an attempt to be funny. Most handguns are more accurate than the people shooting them, though. I never had an accuracy problem with my Pro. I had countless failures to eject and failures to feed. S&W had teething problems with them early on because they were running a heavier slide with the same weight recoil spring.

As Mike said, not typically. However... I have had no problems using my MTAC or my Raven Concealment Phantom with it. The Phantom is a little snug, but the Kydex is thin enough that it has sufficient give to work just fine for now. Had one of those. Wasn't impressed. I've been doing the M&P since they first came out -- literally -- and was excited about the Pro until I actually owned one. That cured my excitement.

Not yet. Down the road... maybe. I'm thinking about the backstrap initially since they are cheap and easily replaced if I decide I don't like it. What you need to do is figure out how C4 Grant is doing the golf-ball texture and do some of THAT. It goes bang when I pull the trigger and puts them where I aim it. Pretty uneventful. I did shoot a paper badguy in the arm with it and it blew the arm clean off, spun him around and threw him to the ground about 20 feet away, though. That's the power of the .45ACP at work.

Hurts like a motherf###er. Highly recommend avoiding it.

I present, my new hotness... I've been flirting with this model for about two years now. Ever since it came out, I've been trying to get myself to just do it... but for some stupid reason I kept gravitating towards other plastic 45's. I bought, and sold, a Glock 21SF because I figured I liked my G19 so much I had to love the 21. Wrong. I bought, and sold, an HK45 because I figured I liked my P2000 so much that I had to love the 45. Wrong. I bought and kept another 1911 because I figured I liked the 1911 platform so much that I could be plenty happy carrying one all the time while my beloved Wilson Combat pulled safe-queen duty. I wasn't wrong, but I still didn't like it as much as I liked carrying the Wilson. And I really didn't want to go back to carrying the Wilson all the time. *sigh* So I finally gathered my wits and did what I'd been subconsciously wanting to do all along. I added yet another M&P to the collection. I ordered this M&P 45 4-inch (mid-size) version and had the guys at D&T do the transfer for me. The moment plastic met hand, I was in love. M&P OH YEAH! Knowing that it was on the way, I ordered another set of Warren Tactical night sights for it since all of my M&Ps wear them. Easily my favorite sight design, period. I also decided to order the Apex Tactical DCAEK drop-in sear and trigger kit. All of this was waiting for the M&P as soon as it arrived. Since installing the sights and the DCAEK, I have to say that this is now very rapidly becoming my new favorite. If it's as reliable as my M&P40 has been, it will overtake both it and my Glock 19 in preference for carry. I'm not a caliber weiner and don't buy into the idea of handgun stopping power, but I do wax nostalgic for the .45ACP and find that I shoot this cartridge very, very well. I also reload for it, which means I can practice all I want. Win-win. Being able to carry 10+1 in the firearm itself and another 10 on my hip in a spare mag carrier provides me with a solid number of almost 1/2" diameter projectiles that have been stopping various bad guys for 100 years now. In fact, this handgun has earned serious accolades from acknowledged 1911 experts like Hilton Yam at 10-8 Performance, who picked it over the aforementioned Glock 21 and HK45 as his preference for a plastic fighting 45. I'm pretty stoked about this and feel that me and my M&P will be spending quite a lot of quality time together, both at the range and for social carry.

Meh. I know some schools... local ones... teach this mentality, and there's anecdotal evidence supporting all sorts of weird crap out there on the Internets, but I'm still not convinced that this is the one-size fits all tactic that every civilian should resort to. I'm going to let the cops dictate my response. If they demand that I DROP the firearm, I'll comply. If they tell me to put it down, slowly, I'll comply. If they tell me to shove it up my ass and dance the Macarena, I'll unwillingly comply. Yes, I realize that a gun is a tool and you shouldn't be worried about getting your tool bent up a little by tossing it to the ground, etc. blah blah blah but I'm going to use a little common sense and discretion too. You and I are usually on the same page but I'm not sure the Camden Drop* is always going to be necessary.

Mike, I'm really not buying in to the whole "throw the gun to the ground" or "drop the gun" nonsense that I see so urgently expressed on other forums. The only conceivable reason that I can see that I'd be standing in my driveway holding a gun in the first place is if I just shot someone for a legally justifiable reason and was in fear for my life from his accomplices, friends or family. In which case I'm retaining my weapon until the police are on the scene and then I'm obeying their commands. I'll place the gun on the ground with great haste but I'm not tossing it, dropping it or kicking it into the pavement where maybe... just MAYBE... the planets might all suddenly align and all of the bad karma in the world come crashing down on me at once and the damn thing would discharge upon violently striking the pavement, resulting in some hair-triggered constable letting loose on his own accord. I've seen the whole "THROW IT DOWN" nonsense spread elsewhere and believe that this is sadly one of those cases where Internet mythology has taken root but to the opposite extreme. If a police officer arrives, sees me complying with his command to put the weapon down and then shoots me because I wasn't fast enough yet the firearm was never pointed in his direction, that ill-trained trigger happy son of a bitch, his department and the city/town he works for is going to end up making me or my survivors very wealthy. Besides, if this crap was real... Voldemort would be dead by now.

Kittah is not amused!

ROFL... Dude... I have so many pictures of our male Doberman wearing hats, antlers, shirts, ties ... occasionally a clean sock stretched over the end of his snout, a la elephant trunk. He's an endless source of amusement for my kids.

This is good stuff. Folks, Chad provides Gunsmithing services for D&T Arms, one of our vendors. Be sure to stop by their shop and see his 1911's in their selection of firearms for sale.

Same here.

I posted a thread offering them for sale via pre-order a few weeks ago.

Cool... glad they are starting to arrive!

My co-workers all thought I was crazy for paying for a personal cell phone since the company happily issues us all smartphones as part of the job. They changed their opinions when someone recently had their call records pulled and evaluated by HR as part of a witch hunt. They were perfectly in the right to do so because it's company property and you understand that you have no expectations of privacy when using company resources. If I'm not on the clock or on call, my company phone stays on the charger turned off. They know how to reach me on my personal phone if it's an emergency. Otherwise I keep my work and my personal lives completely separate from one another... phones included.

Nicely done!

I miss my past life where I was able to carry into work and just lock it up in the desk.

Meh. If it's a Blackberry and he has it managed by a BES server at his company in order to receive email and such, they can load apps on it all day long and prevent him from making changes. It's all done via BES policies. We do this with our Blackberries at work, although we don't go installing GPS nanny apps on them either. A factory reset to the phone will fix the issue, but it will also break his feed of corporate email. Once he reconnects it to their BES server, they can go right back to dropping whatever apps they want onto the phone. So really, it's a legal privacy issue since your son bought and pays for the device. If I were him, I'd demand a new company-provided Blackberry that he can leave at the office or at home (etc) and only carry when he doesn't care about being "tracked".