TGO David

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Randy's got some new toys coming out for the M&P series soon that will make the triggers even better.

I'm extremely hesitant to grant use of our logo in any shape or form to any outside entities. Let me think on this.

Is it really any different to consider the same situations, substituting a pedestrian for the cyclist? I'm trying to determine how a person can have the freedom to walk wherever he might want to walk without fear of impunity, but a cyclist should consider the setting or risk taking a cola bottle upside the skull for riding on a busy street.

No apologies necessary. I'm far from diplomatic.

Daniel and I haven't spoken but clearly he and I are on the same page. I've grown very tired of closing threads. People need to think ahead about the potential [social] ramifications of what they are about to post -and- be willing to put up with whatever may come to pass as a result of their statements. Forums are an anomaly in that people feel a certain freedom to speak before they think, with the assurance that a moderator will strike their comments from the record later if it hindsight bears out that they shouldn't have said it to begin with. I can think of several threads lately where moderators have been put on the spot to save someone from themselves. It gets kind of old. In this thread, clearly there are two camps of thought. I would propose that there is one camp that has the support of logic and common sense. Since Erik88 finds this whole thing rather tedious now, I'll throw a life preserver into the waters: 1. Cyclists have as much right to be on a roadway as any motorist does unless that roadway expressly prohibits one or the other of them. 2. Any member of either camp who endeavors to terrorize or assault the other because they cannot share the roadway deserves to find the full weight of the law bearing down on them as a consequence of their actions. 3. Further, common sense dictates that a person driving a several-thousand pound vehicle should show the common courtesy of yielding to the person riding a several-pound bicycle since the person in the vehicle could easily, accidentally, injure or kill the person on the bicycle by crowding them or -- worse -- throwing objects at them. All of which brings me back to my original statement, albeit with much less efficiency: If you throw things at or crowd a cyclist from the confines of your vehicle, you are a world-class a**hole and you deserve to be fined, incarcerated and, honestly, beaten for it. If I saw you do any of those things to a child of mine on a bicycle, you would be fortunate for the police to arrive before I finished kicking their bike up your ass. Is this cerebral enough for anyone?

Why is debating necessary? I swear, sometimes I think we as forum members... or members of society for that matter... try to make certain things far too cerebral. When a person is being an a-hole, there's no need to waste precious oxygen debating the matter is there? I don't feel that compulsion.

Wow... based on some of the extremely unreasonable posts in this thread, I can only shake my head in sad amazement at how many complete a-holes we have carrying guns. Hint: It's not the guys riding bikes.

Honestly, guys... as much as I appreciate this, we really aren't in a position to need it right now. If you guys want to do a benefit for a charity of some sort, that'd be even better in my opinion.

Post #6 here and not once has it been mentioned what you want the thread title changed to...

No surprise. Build a gun shop in the middle of the ghetto and you're going to get robbed sooner or later. I'm sure he factored this into the decision to build there and determined that the financial payout outweighed the risks.

This seems to have taken on a life beyond being a normal intro thread. I'm moving it into a more appropriate forum.

I've never had anyone comment on my PM9 when I carry it inside my pocket. Maybe you should invest in a better holster.

Since no one else has asked... how exactly did your co-worker come to see your firearm?

Did you notice the date of the last post prior to yours?

How is this even relevant?

Gun(s) in their case(s) locked. Ammo kept separate from them. Locked up if you feel the need, but really the firearms being locked should be enough.

The Glock 19 is a fine gun and won't let you down. You kind of did a 90-degree turn on your thought process, but that's cool.

This thread is proof that asking for personal preference on firearms is like asking people what their religious beliefs are. Answers are going to be all over the place.

Meh. I refuse to stress about something I can't control, and I can't control gas prices. What I can control are other spending habits and I can re-prioritize activities that cause me to use fossil fuels. By doing those things, the rising cost of gasoline really isn't much of an issue. Europeans have been paying $5+ per gallon of fuel for quite a long time now. It didn't somehow wipe them off the map.

Nope, it was always there... just sometimes it wouldn't display depending on how slow the server was to dish out the response.

The "Apricot" scene from this week's episode had me rolling.

Sounds like a promising update. As for the iPad ... good choice. My wife and I love our iPads and Angry Birds will make her time in the hospital a little more... enjoyable? Frustrating?

We do our backups at 2am CST. As the others have said, that's what is happening.

Tim, you might shoot better than Jesus himself when you're gaming, and CK1 might think you hung the moon, but I'm not about to carry your water for you. It has nothing to do with me being the owner/admin of this site. It has a lot to do with you not being able to handle a little friendly ribbing and being a complete girl about it. I tried to read this several different ways and think of how I could just be the bigger, out of shape guy about this. Frankly, I can't. You took a lighthearted attempt at poking fun and ramped it up to something personal. You're done here. Maybe Tim will let you hold it for him out on the range some more now that you won't be able to on TGO anymore. You guys both need to lighten up and not take things so serious.