TGO David

I think I'll open a gun shop some day and call it GunMax. No haggling. You come in and haggle, and I'll post a picture on this forum of you walking out the door empty handed.

I agree it was 100% judgmental and I meant it that way. This problem is past the point of candy coating to save a few delicate feelings, you know? A lot of us gun owners are politically conservative and like to complain about how the Lefties are a bunch of entitlement jockeys. Well, pay attention to threads on gun forums and behavior at the sales counters in gun shops for a while and you'll start to see that gun owners can be just as bad as consumers when it comes to feeling like we're owed a bottom dollar price on whatever shiny object has our full attention at the moment. We may not support sucking at the government tit for handouts, but we sure as hell don't seem to want a gun shop to stay in business if it means they have to charge us a markup. I can't think of any other retail industry where it is so common to go in and haggle for price, car lots excluded. If I go to Best Buy, my only chance of buying a television cheaper than what they have it marked on the shelf is if they are willing to price match a competitor. I can't just waltz in there and announce that I'll give them 20% less than the asking price on a new high-end LCD TV. If I did, they'd tell me to come back when I had more money. Anyway, yeah... this little rant has been brewing under the surface for a while.

Hah... I don't get it. You guys SERIOUSLY kill me sometimes. Marketing is Good Business 101. If you want to stay in business and want to grow beyond being a small piddly pawn-shop-esque gun shop, you advertise. These guys are doing it right and have never shied away from spending a little money in order to bolster the company image, evangelize the product, and sell more guns, ammo and gear. They are obviously doing something right because they are like the few other gun shops on here who are vendors in that they are GROWING and adding more stuff for you guys to buy every day. So they have a flashy commercial and someone jumps to the conclusion that's why they price a Ruger LCP at a certain price-point. Ooooh, how dare they make a profit. How dare they have a profit margin. How dare they make money, to pay their bills, to pay their employees, to continue expanding, to continue serving a bunch of ungrateful Monday morning quarterbacks who like to bitch about their capitalist ways on the Internet. You know, I'm quickly forming the opinion that the reason so many gun shops go out of business or never quite take off is because the majority of their customers are cheap jerks who don't want to see them make the necessary profits required to stay in business. Just saying. And as for the complaint about the SP101 not working and them not taking it back, not many gun shops do and it's purely at their discretion if they so desire. For YEARS it was the norm for damn near any gun shop to require you to send a defective unit back to the manufacturer for repair. Some shops will graciously exchange your firearm. Some impose certain restrictions. None of them are required to let you return it. Sunday morning rant, I guess. I'm just really sick and tired of seeing gun owners be their own worst enemies when it comes to running gun shops out of business for failing to operate in the negative as a Second Amendment charity.

I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to search every single time they go to make a new post. Do you?

THAT... is stupid.

So you're saying you like gay man butt as long as it's not overly tanned?

Welcome, Marine! Thanks for your service.

+1

Catching up on my thread reading today. Love the rifle build!

Welcome to TGO!

I've shot them and really didn't care for them, to be honest. The dimensions just seemed all ... wrong. Give me an AR variant any day.

Lose the AR style collapsible butt stock and I could almost grow to like the ugliness of it.

Welcome! I'm digging the Umbrella Corp 1911 grip panels in your avatar.

Yep, great holsters. I have one each for my M&P 40 and my M&P 45. I need to pick up one for my Glock 19 at some point.

Tennesseans once again get the middle finger from our elected representatives and yet those same reps will continue to occupy office because the people will re-elect them. Frankly I'm so tired of this repetition that I don't even get worked up about these issues anymore. Nothing changes because the people aren't willing to take action at the polls. Just a lot of empty talk and alligator tears.

Hmmm. It's supposed to let you renew ahead of time if you want. I'll have to dig into it.

However, our legal system also provides for a jury of our human peers, and too frequently their decisions are clouded by other factors besides the facts. Factors like personal feelings.

Nice! It always feels good to introduce someone new to the concepts of safe firearms handling and shooting. Sounds like you did great.

Wow... ok so that was pretty jacked up. A result of the conversion from vBulletin to IPB it would seem. I've corrected that issue and also grouped the profile fields a little more logically. I really thought I had already addressed that part of the software but apparently I either only did part of it or skipped it entirely. Sorry about that.

I'll have to check into this. It sounds like some permissions aren't set quite right.

Welcome to TGO.

There was a South Park episode about this a while back.

Be sure to check out www.tnjeeps.com.

Classifieds are not where this belongs. Moving it.

Major dick statement of the day, but I'm OK with making it... so here goes: If we could get rid of the vast majority of government subsidized anything, an entire generation of dead-weight would either die off or start working and paying taxes. I'm a firm believer that the government's job is not to be a charitable organization. Stop that and we have a chance of fixing this country. Fail to do so and the country will continue to go to hell in a handbasket.