TGO David

I hope to retire somewhere up in the Rockies, to be honest with you. We are fortunate to have the Smokeys so close to us but the Rockies stole my heart and I doubt I'll ever be able to come to rest anywhere else.

What part of people posting their relevant opinions in a thread seems like derailment to you? Maybe you just need to come to terms with the fact that there are going to be "Yeager-Haters" and deal with it. I've met the guy, I don't have a problem with the guy personally and wouldn't let his history deter me from taking a class from him or his adjunct instructors. It's not like I'm looking for him to cover my back under fire from insurgents or expecting him to be my get-away driver so none of what may or may not have happened in Iraq really affects me as a figurative student. That being said, however, what does affect me as a figurative student are these so-called AAR's where people report back on the unnecessary chastisement (you can call it ribbing if you want, but at the end of the day it's chastisement) about the firearms that they choose to take a class with. A class like this is the BEST place to find out if your sidearm of choice won't function well under adverse conditions. I've purposefully taken certain handguns to similar classes and abused them just to see if they were really worth carrying. As long as I'm not causing a safety concern or slowing down the class, there's no reason for any instructor anywhere to berate me or any other student and there certainly is no place for some female to make pejorative statements about any inadequacies, as the OP reported. Oh, I'm sure the nut-swingers will all say that's just "playing by Big Boy Rules" and that "students need thick skin" etc. but here's the flip side of that: I've had the privilege to train with and under people with a level of professionalism that eclipses the need for that sort of nonsense. So-called ribbing breaks down the mutual respect between a student and instructor that fosters higher levels of trust, better communication, and prevents a student's mind from closing, ensuring that they get the maximum return on their investment from the class. When I go to a defensive weapons class, I am not there to be subjected to a bunch of frat-boy bull#### from douchebag "Bros" who think every person who walks through the door with something other than a Glock -- or recently an M&P, which intrigues me since I've been running that platform since it came out, long before it was blessed by anyone at TR -- should be subjected to ribbing / hazing / a ration of crap because the cadre thinks they chose poorly. No, I am there first and foremost to learn and secondly to determine if my gear has weak points that need to be addressed. A student will figure out the latter on their own without any jabs, friendly or not, from someone pontificating from a position of arrogance, when the firearm fails to go bang. And lessons learned like that are far more persuasive and more readily accepted than being taunted by the people receiving your money because you're not carrying one of their favorite brands of gun.

Nice shirt.

Back to the subject at hand, 101 your post reads less like an AAR and more like a promotional. Whatever. Glad you found the class enjoyable. That being said... Those guys and anyone else can go #### themselves if they want to rib me for bringing a sidearm other than one in the Blessed Chosen Caliber. Do I have a Glock 19? You bet. Do I trust it? You bet. Do I think that the 9mm is the end-all be all of fighting pistol cartridges? No. Because that sort of narrow-minded chest pounding bull#### is no different than people who think the 1911 is the pinnacle of handgun art, or that an AK-47 is the best fighting rifle ever made, or that the Model T is the best car ever to touch four wheels to the ground. As long the handgun I bring doesn't cause a safety issue or cause anyone else's training to suffer, there's no reason for anyone to open their mouth and say a damn thing about it. Stuff like this just reaffirms my belief that I'm not missing anything by not having trained there. I just don't think I'm "tactical" enough for it.

You can stow that ####. If people don't want counter opinions, they don't need to start threads on a forum. Period.

We pulled off any chance I could but this is a one-way, one-lane road with drop offs on one or both sides in most places. One person with their hazard lights on would get me out of their way. Dozens of cars running up your ass constantly? No, that's not an emergency... those are people who shouldn't have driven down a scenic motorway.

Well to be clear, I hate "tourists" with a passion and when I go places like this I'm there to get away from people. This little vacation reaffirmed one thing I've believed all along: That there simply is no magical place in the USA where people are not self-absorbed, self-important, impatient asses when you put them behind the wheel of a car or truck. Case in point, the posted speed limit through the Roaring Forks motor-trail is 10mph and for good reason. SOME of us like to stop and take pictures, walk across the road to the other side to see something over there, or just generally roll down the windows and drive at a very leisurely pace, taking in what God created. But then there are those clowns from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and the other 47 states of the union who somehow figure you can "take in" the majesty of the place by driving 30mph and tailgating the guy in front of them. That guy was me, a lot of the time. I slowed down even more for them. I learned that my F150 can idle at about 3mph if left to it's own devices. I also learned that it really pisses off people when you do that. The last time I was up there I got snowed in for a week. Loved being stuck there!

Yeah we left 110 degree temperatures here for mid to high 70 degree temperatures over there. We had gentle persistent rains for most of the time there, which was great and very relaxing. The second to last day we were there the thunderstorms kicked in. There's a whole lot relaxing about sitting in a gazebo-covered hot tub with a beer in hand as the thunder rolls across the mountains and the rain hammers the land around you.

Yeah, been there and done that. I still think the area needs a different, better kind of gun show but I'm not convinced that the consumer realizes it or is capable of appreciating it.

Another vote for the Lansky system here. I picked one up about 2 months ago after "meaning to" for nearly five years. Wish I had done it sooner.

Nice.

Welcome to TGO!

You may have noticed that I haven't been online much lately. While I am extremely thankful to have a good paying job doing something I enjoy, they have been working my ass to death for about 12 months straight. The past three months have been brutal and I've clocked about 54 hrs per week on average. No overtime. I don't get that luxury. The company line is that we're salary and we should be grateful for that because we get paid good even when it's slow. Problem is... it's never slow. So the company line is bull####, but again I'm grateful to have my job. About a month ago it finally started to really take it's toll on me so my wife and I decided that it was time for a family vacation. Some folks like to park a folding chair on the beach with the sand between their toes and a cooler at their side. I can see where that would be relaxing, but if you give me a choice I am going to head for the mountains. We've vacationed out west in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. and loved it out there but we just didn't have the time for that long of a trip right now. So we rented a beautiful cabin in the Smoky Mountains, butted right up against the park so that things would be peaceful and away from the tourist traps. We then spent the week driving through the park and hiking around, doing one of the things I love to do... taking photos. As much as I'm glad to be back and rested, I sure do miss the mountains already. Those of you who live close to them are damn lucky. Here's what's kept me away the past few days...

The situation you described immediately sounded like a weak or malformed extractor when I read it. After browsing that thread some more last night I guess my suspicions were more or less confirmed. We've got several Glock certified armorers on this forum, some as members, others as vendors, who would all likely be more than happy to assist you with troubleshooting and/or parts replacement. I know I preach this a lot, but the Vendors who support this site deserve our support in turn. TN Gun Country is not and, to my knowledge, never has expressed interest in supporting TGO. While they may be a great shop with great folks behind the counters, I'd try to swing some business towards one of our Vendors if you could. Without their support, there wouldn't be a TGO.

Read this thread... http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?938-Glock-19-Extractor-Woes

That's a good question. I had to go look as well, but the answer for you specifically is 24-November 12. I believe if you go to the top right hand side of the screen, click your name and a window will fold down. In that window is a link for "Client Area" that takes you here: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/index.php?app=nexus&module=clients Once there you should be able to see your current subscription.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Reminds me of this bit from Family Guy...

Juicy pic!

I would like to amend this by also stating that as far as I am concerned, this also applies to non-profit 503{c}{3} organizations such as Project Appleseed. A legitimate non-profit 503{c}{3} organization may post announcements about any of their classes or courses without being a Vendor. Thanks.

This really belongs in the Feedback and Support forum.

You'd be surprised. I was skeptical at first but we've seen numerous demos now where the tiled interface "makes sense" for a business. Microsoft recognizes that tablets, smart phones and devices with non-keyboard interfaces are where the BIG business market is won or lost. That and they fully intend to provide a homogenous interface option across all of the various platforms on which a Microsoft OS can be run. Again, Server 2012 doesn't even boot with a GUI by default... which rocks, as far as I'm concerned. Anything I can do via PowerShell is something I can script and automate.

We are part of the Microsoft RPD (Rapid Deployment Program) at work and one of my colleagues is part of the task force our company has assigned to put it through the wringer. He and two other guys went out to Redmond back in April or May and spent some time with other RPD partners from around the world. He's pretty impressed with it but admits that Microsoft is going to have to do something about the interface and thinks that if they do an R2 version like they did with Server 2008, it'll probably address a lot of those concerns. What we're really anxious to begin deploying is Server 2012. That's going to be a game changer. And just to qualify my remarks, I support an environment of approximately 5,000 Windows servers in a 90% virtualized environment as one of three VMware engineers. It's not exactly a small shop.

You should be able to edit your topic titles now.

Still have not worked on it either. I logged 63 hrs at my job last week, most of them around the clock. Give me a break. It'll get fixed.