TGO David

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Wow... I'm glad I don't live in the same world of fear that some of ya'll do. That seems really, really depressing to me.

I think this question has been sufficiently answered.

I'm not even sure what this means???

This thread was going pretty good until you resorted to a personal attack. Let's not do that.

I've had some good encounters talking guns with cops.

I've always liked the SIG 1911's but just never could really embrace the external extractor despite the fact that it works. Probably a big mistake on my part.

Some of that could just easily be small talk while the cop is waiting on dispatch to come back with the check on your DL, outstanding warrants, etc. Not sure why folks get their shorts in a knot about a cop asking them where they're heading or where they've been. It's also a way for them to gauge if you're up to some ####, based on body language, so just relax and have a conversation. Unless the guy starts asking you things that infringe upon your Miranda rights, don't be a dick and they likely won't be either.

TVs are one of the first items stolen during most home robberies. I'm not so sure I'd want to hide my guns there just because the ransacking might make their presence apparent to the thieves.

I'm thinking... Guns & Leather - Franklin, TN Location.

As someone who has buried TWO children, I will say that I never have taken that to mean I had a blank check to be a complete douche. Further, what happened 7 weeks ago would seem to have very little bearing on the business for the past 7 years. My condolences to the family on the loss of their daughter and sister, but trying to inject that into the overall business situation is seems like an attempt to buy credit with the local gun owners by tugging at their heart strings, and assumes that we're all just stupid and bad at math. Summary: Sorry about your loss, not sorry to see the business go under.

What happened seven weeks ago really doesn't have much bearing on the business practices I've heard about for the many years prior. I'm sorry about the family's loss and say that as someone who has buried two children myself, but I never for once thought having lost my children gave me a blank check to be a douche. Glad to see the business gone. Hope a better gun shop gets the property!

Redbox doesn't have it, but I hear it's the rave at Jihadbox.

Well that worked out well for him considering the media circus on scene.

So has the Obama Administration condemned the attacks yet and proceeded to put American boot to ass yet, or are we still apologizing? Because if we're still apologizing, then this is slightly more of an outrage than just trampling a citizen's 1st Amendment rights. Which in and of itself is a HUGE ####ing outrage. I'm normally not prone to thinking that tinfoil makes for good fashion sense, but this sort of makes you wonder what sort of bull#### charges They could dredge up to arrest any one of us. I will say this, it's not the fault of the SD Deputies that their uniform has brown shirts, nor that they were sent out on this particular call in their jurisdiction. Could have easily been the Brentwood TN PD that had to serve that warrant. While the historical reference is somewhat "amusing" and makes for great sensationalism, it's a bit overboard.

Having a Paypal account is not required to use their service. There are no options for check or credit card, other than using a credit card to pay via Paypal.

Frankly I'm more than a little appalled at the lack of integrity being displayed by those who suggest a person should just try to sneak reloads in and use them anyway. So much for gun owners being "salt of the earth" types, right? On second thought, maybe appalled isn't the right emotion. Pissed off is. These guys have stepped up and supported this site at the highest level we make available to our vendors. Awesome way to welcome them to the community and thank them for supporting TGO. It kind of defeats my idea of seeing if they'd like to host some organized events on their range and I hadn't even had a chance to approach them with that yet! Again, thanks guys. Maybe THINK before posting in the future.

This is going to come off wrong I'm sure but that's a pretty dumbass statement in light of the facts as stated AND the fact that that this range is a premier sponsor of this forum and didn't choose to "boycott us". Thanks for that.

Hmmm, apparently I've still got some old info lingering around out there. I'm not on a computer right now so I'll get back to you later this evening with current details. The whole pricing structure has changed a bit since last time and we now have some cheaper options that might appeal to you. For vendor related details, always PM me. The signature line doesn't really apply to that. Tnx.

Let me elaborate: This impacted ANYONE who was hosted with or had DNS records hosted with GoDaddy. It impacted millions of sites.

TGO presently uses Godaddy for DNS hosting only. This is why some folks could access the site today but others could not. Some ISPs still had our records cached and therefore their customers could access the site. This is the first time since we've used them for DNS that this has happened. So long as it doesn't become a recurring issue with them I doubt I will make any brash changes. Godaddy is usually very solid.

Or... people could think ahead and empty their pockets and luggage of things they know will be confiscated before going to the airport. It still dumbfounds me that people get in trouble for trying to carry knives and even firearms through the screening areas because they didn't ####ing think about what they were carrying. These regulations aren't new.

Guys, you can actually go out and sell a boat-load of guns, ammo, etc. without having a license to do so and someone will buy it all from you and others will argue your "right" to do so on a forum ad nauseum. What matters at the end of the day is that when the BATFE comes knocking on your door, their interpretation of the law is what is going to prevail at that moment and it may end up costing you quite a bit of money (and potentially freedom) to assert your counterpoint in court. Certain aspects of firearms ownership are pretty black and white. Others have varying shades of gray. Those gray areas are the problematic ones and wherein monsters lurk. I'd greatly prefer that folks not sell their reloaded ammo on TGO if for no other reason than the simple fact that by disallowing it we're protecting people from themselves and from badly loaded rounds.

I think it's safe to say that there are some members on TGO who have bought and sold enough firearms in a short enough period of time that it's certainly raised the eyebrows of the BATFE. One case in particular comes to mind from several years ago where some guys were flipping guns quick enough that they were investigated for potentially making straw purchases. Trust me. They do watch.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin