TGO David

I just don't even have words. And people look at me like I've got a third arm growing out of my forehead when I tell them that I absolutely support the Second Amendment but wouldn't be caught dead doing a "Carry Rally" or other such thing where there's a chance that some some jackass novice will be fingering his handgun and send a round off into the crowd accidentally. I also don't get what the deal is with these people checking their carry firearms at door of gun shows. I've never done that. My carry weapon isn't going into a show to be sold; It's going into a show on my person should I need it to defend myself. Having some doofus at the door run a zip-tie through the action is counter productive to the intended purpose of my firearm. Worse yet the chance that said doofus will negligently discharge my weapon into his own stupid ass or someone/something nearby. No way in hell am I letting them even handle my carry weapon. If they don't want me carrying there, then I don't want to be patronizing their gun show. GAH!!! Stupid frickin people!!!

I see this thread was bumped but am not sure what got posted or removed.  Anyway... just an update:   I ended up removing the Catalyst mag release button from my M&P 9 and stuffed it away in a box of loose parts somewhere.  One of these days I may retrieve it and sand it down some to reduce the height, but as it came from the manufacturer it simply sits too tall which makes it all to easy to inadvertently drop the mag free.  It did this once or twice while in an MTAC holster which of course makes the release unacceptable for carry use.  It'd probably be great for competition.

  So is "Gorilla Mask".  Urban Dictionary isn't where I turn for inspiration when trying to look intelligent.

It's not a CHP.  It's a HCP.

  No, the reason we tend to lose is best described by Ben Shapiro:   "Power derives from institutions.  The right thinks individually; the left thinks institutionally.  And so the left wields more power, and therefore has more opportunity to bully."     They operate as a collective.  Their goals are socialist at the core, and socialism is a collective effort.  Our goals are for greater independence, and as a result we tend not to rally together around a common purpose as they do -- or at least not with the same efficacy as they do.   Your dissent in this thread is a perfect example.  I'm not saying you have to agree with me in the least, but it is definitely a great illustration of independent personal belief trumping what might be for the common good.

  I've seen several posts where folks have taken the enormous slide release off and then shortened it down a bit, dressed it off nicely with a file and stone, re-blued it and called it a day.  I think that and some replacement sights would be my immediate changes.

  Oh. My. God.  You mean you have to throw away some junk mail or delete emails?  That takes you how long exactly?  This thread isn't an invitation to tell us what you think about the NRA.  Leave the unnecessary commentary elsewhere.

  Click the link and find out maybe?  Common sense says you probably need to do it now.

  You're doing something wrong then.

This may have just swayed me into adding a PPQ to my collection. The previous "paddle" style mag release seemed extremely funky to me. I don't like it on my HK P2000 and knew I wouldn't care for it on the PPQ. However the PPQ constantly gets rave reviews by people who know guns such as Larry Vickers and Grant at G&R Tactical, as having one of the best triggers for a polymer striker fired handgun out of the box. Now that the M2 version has been released having a standard mag release button similar to damn near every other handgun in the world, I am going to be looking for one of these babies as soon as I can. http://www.waltherarms.com/products/handguns/ppq-m2/

SOURCE: http://www.guntalk.com/site.php?pageID=15&newsID=491 "NRA LIFETIME Membership for $300 Tom was able to work out a great deal - with a special phone number - for this latest deal to join the NRA for LIFE! Special toll-free number just for friends of Tom Gresham. No waiting on hold. No need to give Tom's life member number. $300 for a life membership. Just call 1-888-678-7894." Over on another forum with 4+ pages of people saying this is working. Apparently he (Tom Gresham) gets a commission on each membership purchased through that link/site, and he donates 100 percent of that to the Second Amendment Foundation. So, when you buy an NRA membership this way, you are also contributing to the SAF (according to the website).

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757913_-1_757798_757797_image You can see them at the link above. I think I can see one of the #311314 models working it's way into my safe sooner than later.

  If you're on the Internet at all, that ship has sailed.

  I intentionally left the thread open for discourse.  It's not an edict or an official policy, it's a proposal that I would like folks to join into.

Welcome to TGO.  It's kind of sad to see how far Massachusetts has deviated from when it was an integral part of our nation's cradle, isn't it?

I also have a Lifetime membership and would be glad to provide my ID # to anyone who is interested in signing up or upgrading.

Folks;   I would like to propose a moratorium on pejorative "creative" misspellings.  Specifically, pejorative misspellings of proper names like turning Diane Feinstein into Diane Fineswine or Swinestein, and turning Liberal into Libtard or Libturd and so forth.   Sure, those little things feel good when you do them.  They are a guilty indulgence that expresses your contempt for these people or things, however I also believe that they make the author look childish and cause the mainstream fence-sitters to automatically write us off as frustrated juveniles with an inability to articulate our thoughts and opinions without resorting to schoolyard taunts and mockery.  When we do this, we discredit ourselves.   It's no secret that the Left has made a career history of establishing itself in the eyes of the public as the "Mental Elite".  They have carefully ensconced themselves in the towers of academia and use this vantage point to lord over and brow beat us -- their adversaries -- and paint us as knuckle-dragging neanderthals with room-temperature IQs.  It is my opinion that we play into their hands when we resort of using pejorative misspellings of their names and they casually dismiss it as being about as base level as a fart joke.    We need to rise above that.  We need to conduct ourselves smartly and remind society that just because we value the Constitution, we are not a bunch of mouth breathing pinheads.   Further, it makes it impossible for a person to search TGO's contents and accurately find articles of interest by using key words when those key words may have been intentionally misspelled by the author who thought it was funny or cute.   So, there it is.  I would appreciate it if everyone would please join me in this.  I have been as guilty of these things as the next person, but I am personally committing to rising above the petty name calling and instead will be focusing even more on letting the substance of my words illustrate how despicable the subject of my derision is.   Thanks. :)      

This feature was requested by a member who remembered when we used to have it "back in the day". I have added it again. If you are a member of the NRA and would like to see their logo in your user profile when you post, you can add it by editing your member settings. This is also where you can indicate whether you have a carry permit, are active or former military, or are active or former law enforcement. Enjoy.

SOB carry essentially went out with the 90's as handgun carry became more common and practitioners became more enlightened.  As others have said, it's not a very secure way of carry and can cause traumatic spine injuries if the wearer falls onto it.  If inside the waistband carry isn't an option, you need to consider outside the waistband carry with a cover garment if you're trying to keep it concealed.   If body-weight / obesity is a problem for carrying on your side, you may need to explore other options but I would still cross SOB carry off the list.  I'd also recommend doing whatever you can to drop some pounds for your own health and wellness.  Not a snide remark, just concern for a fellow gun owner.

When we switched from using a CDN to not using a CDN for certain graphics, this may have happened.  Purely a guess.   I'm glad we have gotten back to being able to report inconsequential things now that the server is running fast again.  :)

  And I don't carry it -- but if I did and I had to use it, I'd be fine with tossing it to the ground if told to do so.  It's a tool.  A nice tool, but a tool none the less.

  No, that's a lot of bull from people who have never been in a self-defense shooting.  Remain armed until the police get there and have control of the situation.  Do you want to be unarmed if the person you just defended yourself against has friends, family, accomplices nearby who are unhappy about you doing what you just did?   Nope.  Remain armed.  Disarm when instructed by the police.   Edited to add:  I often see comments from folks saying they're not going to throw their nice Nighthawk 1911 or whatever on the ground when the police get there because it's too nice / pretty / expensive.  When the police are arriving, holster your firearm before they get out of their car.  Hands up and wait for instruction.  If they tell you to unholster and throw it to the ground, throw it to the ground.  If they tell you to lay it on the ground slowly, do it slowly.  If they tell you to tap dance and pat your belly at the same time, do that too.   Bottom line being, your stupid high-end boutique firearm isn't worth you getting shot over.  If it's so concerning that your gun might get scratched, don't carry it.  If you think it  might go off when dropped or tossed to the pavement, don't carry it.  Good guns don't go off when dropped.   Do whatever the nice police officers tell you to do, following their instructions to the letter, and keep your mouth shut until asked to speak.  And even then limit what you say.  You were in fear for your life, that guy over there in a pile is the guy who attacked you, and you'll be GLAD to cooperate with the police after your attorney is present.  You are in no state of mind to say anything else without your attorney present.  Period.   Establish that you're the good guy, point out the bad guy, point out the knife or gun or ball bat or chain or axe or whatever he was about to attack you with, and then shut your hole.

You must lead a very stressed-out existence because I swear your posts indicate that you see a boogey-man under every bed.

  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you've never dealt with the BATF directly.  Because had you actually done so, you'd know that we've actually got some of the most professional, courteous agents assigned as NFA examiners for Tennessee.   However, you're correct in a way.  If you're caught doing something illegal they can most certainly pound sand.  You're just not going to like what they pound it up.

Just a quick update:  I've been tied up with other things here (obviously) but I'm still planning this.  Will update some folks privately as soon as I see a Saturday that looks like I won't be committed to something else.