TGO David

There's already a thread on this.   A recent one also.   No, you do not have permission to have one made.  Our logo is trademarked property, registered even.  

lol... you guys saying this article is just "feel good propaganda" need to consider the White House press office document that I posted in the other thread and how it lines up with this story.  That document had an embargo on it preventing it from being distributed until the President started his speech this morning.  It was not to be distributed until he began his talking points.   Clearly what he said and what the document outlines are shades apart from each other.  The document outlines what he wants; what he said was a watered down version.   Don't assume the Administration won't be trying to push ahead.  The speech today was simple slight of hand.  A diversionary tactic meant to get us to let our guard down.  You saw evidence of it on TGO initially when people were saying, "Oh well - that wasn't so bad.  He didn't say anything that we already didn't know about."   Like I said earlier; if you think the 21 or 23 points are what he had in mind, dream on.  There's more.  That was the tip of the iceberg and his handlers knew better than to let their man show his hand while they're facing strong opposition from our side.  They're hoping we forget and become complacent again once the guns and ammo start showing back up in the stores, and then they'll let loose with a surprise left hook while we're not watching.   Be smarter than that, folks.  Remain vigilant.

  That's exactly the thing.  This list represents the current Administration's effort to throw it all at the wall (Congress) and see what sticks.  This is their wish list.  They know some of it won't go through, and they will use those bits as bargaining pieces to get the more important things passed.   The goal for us should be to put so much pressure on our representatives that none of it sticks.  None of it passes.  So much pressure that in four years, Obama and his cronies will have to pack up their toys and GTF home all sad and dejected.   A lot of folks here love their Gadsden flags.  They love the story of the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae.  They love the challenge to "Come and Take" (Molon Labe).  Well, this is your MOLON LABE moment, people.  Now's when you start cranking up the pressure and let it be known that you don't want the people who work for you in Washington to give a single inch on this stuff.

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/blog/258/entry-91-web-server-woes-jan-16-2013-edition/   Click away and read about why daddy drinks when the server cries.   :drunk:

  This is absolutely what he is proposing and what he wants Congress to pick up and run with.  The news conference today touched briefly on elements of this document but glazed over a lot of other things that gun owners obviously will find inflammatory.  He and his handlers knew that it would not be good press to go out there, surround himself with the children and then lay out precisely what measures he intended to see enacted.   The frustrating thing I'm seeing here in this thread are responses from people acting like this is no big revelation and just more layers of the onion being peeled away.  It absolutely is a big revelation because the Administration just laid out 22 pages worth of precisely what they want to see happen.  This is the blueprint.  This is the answer to all of the questions we've seen posted on TGO and elsewhere lately asking "Will they try to ___________ ?".  There's no more guessing about what they want done.  It's right there in black and white and the next step will be seeing how many parts of it they can sail through Congress.

  I'm not ready to make any comments based on speculation.  We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

  I always buy my own coffee.  :)

  Well, alright.  There's always whatever re-runs of The Simpsons is on to watch instead.  Nothing to see here.

Are you guys reading the document or just posting silly pictures?  Because you need to READ the document.  It completely outlines their plans to...   Require private sale of firearms run through an FFL. Reinstate a tougher Assault Weapons Ban. Mandate a 10-round magazine limit. Create new "Gun Trafficking" laws that enlarge scope of violation and increase punishment for violators. Limit what types of ammo can be sold.   For all of the concern and panic people here have been exhibiting over what might happen, this is the one document that comprehensively lays it out and it's straight from the White House press office.  You'd think people would be reading the damn thing.

There are a lot more worrisome things in that document than the survey of inmates.  It outlines exactly what they have in plan for us.  Today's press conference was a diversionary tactic.

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/58691-white-house-proposal-for-gun-control/   Go read that.  Closing this thread to direct further discussion to the link above.  

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/58691-white-house-proposal-for-gun-control/   Go read that.  Closing this thread to re-direct attention to the link above for further discussion.  

So you thought the list of Executive Orders that you got from Fox News or CNN was all there was to it, eh?   You wish.   http://www.scribd.com/doc/120650415/White-House-list-of-executive-orders-on-gun-violence     Attaching a copy of the PDF to this post also.      

Adams keeps a list on their site.  It's not exhaustive but it's fairly good.   http://www.adamsarms.net/content.asp?content=3#qa1

  Sure they can.  They can make private firearm sales illegal and then simply wait for you to get caught.  People do illegal shit all the time now and the government is none the wiser because they don't get caught.  But once you get caught, you face the consequences.   Don't fool yourself and think that they wouldn't conduct stings to make sure that folks are playing by the new rules.  They do it all the time with narcotics busts.  Hell, the BATF has recently made the local news when they busted the doofus in Chattanooga who was SO stupid and SO brazen that he literally went out of his way to cross every successive line in the sand that the agents gave for him.  He had a dozen opportunities to take an exit and likely avoid anything more serious than a slap on the wrist, and finally made it bad enough that they absolutely had to arrest him.   People aren't the brightest of animals sometimes, and criminals are typically just flat stupid.  Especially petty criminals.   If they make it such that private sales are verboten, it won't take long for a bunch of bubbas to prove me right and give the government a chance to make examples of some folks.  All it will take is a few front page stories about someone getting sent away for a 10 year stint for everyone else to get the idea that they aren't playing around.   So, yeah... it's absolutely a do-able scenario.  Our job is to prevent that kind of legislation from ever passing.

  This makes me wonder what's coming down the pipe as there's really no reason to remind FFLs on how to run background checks.  The key words here being "for private sellers".       [quote] 11. Nominate an ATF director. [/quote]   No good can come that.  He's not going to nominate someone who agrees with the rest of us

  Brazilian.

Guys, I'm throwing the marker out in the sand right now.  When I die, I want a tribute video very similar to this.   You don't even have to wait for that to happen.  If you want to make one now, I'm OK with it.   :D

I suggest you get a pair of them.

His passing just sucks no matter how you look at it.  Too young.  Too smart.  Too innovative.  Too good of a guy.  It's never the people you want to hear about having kicked the oxygen habit; only the good ones die young.

NSFW WARNING...   Those with delicate sensibilities who don't like boobs won't enjoy this video.  They tried to censor it appropriately but... the little black bar had a hard time keeping up.   Seriously, if that's you - don't press play.  Don't do that and then even dare complain about the content.  If you do that... if you prove that you're one of THOSE people who doesn't take time to read things on a forum.... I will ban you so fast you won't even have time to say "Titty Sprinkles"   But if you ever read any of John Noveske's posts on the Internet, you know that this is exactly the kind of video he would have wanted posted.  :lol:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmD8eyy_lZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HSBZtl8bMh4   [quote]A year ago all the buzz in guns was about the Springfield XDS, a six round pocket .45ACP that proved to be a game changer in the concealed carry world. Everyone has asked over the past year, will the XDS be available in 9mm and .40 S&W? For SHOT Show 2013, Springfield answered for the 9mm, and the answer is yes. The XD-S 9mm is the same dimensions as the XD-S .45ACP, but it holds 2 more rounds in both the flush and extended mags, 7 and 9 respectively. We got to shoot the gun today with Rob Leatham, and as little as the .45ACP kicks in the XD-S, the 9mm is even lighter shooting. Check out our Media Day at the Range video with our host, Julie Mac. No word yet on an XD-S .40, but the 9mm is going to be a big hit. Hopefully we’ll get one soon for a full review.[/quote]

Or... you could say what happened and save me from having to watch it?  :)

  Don't hold your breath.  Tapatalk is a horrible piece of software from the server-side and not likely to return unless they get their stuff together.