TGO David

  I said THOSE stars and bars... not "The Stars and Bars", first of all.  Second, I'm really not sure TGO is the right place for you or anyone else who thinks along the trajectory you've been following lately.  I'm sick and tired of the borderline secessionist / militia-esque nonsense.  This isn't the group for that.  This isn't the forum for that and I damn sure don't want the sort of attention that it brings.   Take it elsewhere.   Closing this thread.

  Even if that's the truth, the media will quickly sweep it under the rug.

There's not a damn thing wrong with THIS flag. Men and women have bled and died for it. It represents what is still the greatest nation on this planet; a nation which has selflessly done more good for others than any in history. It represents dreams, and ideas and ideals. It represents freedom. You may not like what's going on in Washington or even our own state capitol, but that doesn't mean those stars and bars are any less beloved today than they were a month, a year, a decade or a lifetime ago. No, I've got the only flag I need and it's the one worth fighting for. Your flag seems... divisive to me. We don't need that crap. We need more unity.

  Who's bill?

And on that note, I'm signing an Executive Order and closing this thread.  ;)  

  Honestly, I agree with the spirit of what your instructor said.  The bottom line is that an establishment doesn't have to post a sign on their door at all.  It's private property, and if someone spots you carrying a handgun on your person and the management tells you to leave, you have to leave.  Period.   If you refuse, the police can be called and they will have no choice but to make you leave.  They may not like it either given that the establishment wasn't posted, but the bottom line remains it's private property and your ability to be there relies strictly on their permission to do so.   Unless we are talking about a location that is strictly prohibited by law for you to carry within, you have a fundamental decision to make when you see any sort of anti-firearms posting:   a.)  Take your money elsewhere b.)  Ignore the sign, risk being "made" and risk a misdemeanor charge of trespass.     Option "B" is what you'd open yourself up to if you simply didn't notice the sign to begin with and had no clue they were posted.

I'd refund the guy his money and tell him you're sorry he lives in a Commie-ass state like Illinois, and then list any future sales as being not available to people in certain states.

Nope.  My annual membership at a local range is completely going to waste right now.   Kind of sucks.

  Sounds like sour grapes rather than price gouging.  :bored:   This thread doesn't even deserve to exist.  Closing it and editing the title.  It's not fair to that business for some pissed-off non-customer to come here and gripe about them when the price is within current market range for that item.  We're not Craigslist.  Drive-by mud slingings aren't welcome here.

  I'm going to start doing it in my town just to get to know my neighbors better.   :D

By far my favorite photo from yesterday's event is this one... You're mah boy, Blue!!! :rofl: I kinda miss that guy. At least everyone knew that he was f'king the country. One intern at a time. :)

Let's keep this on topic.  There are a hundred threads here talking about why or why not to alert the police to the fact that you're carrying.  This thread is about a good encounter.  Let's leave it there.

  Why exactly is he a douchebag?  :confused:

I wonder what shoes the fourth guy in from the left on the 1st row up is wearing...

Yep.  The flag.  That guy is winning it.

  Large quantity orders of anything take priority over small orders of anything.  It doesn't matter if we're talking about ammo or something else entirely, but some folks have to look for the boogeyman no matter what.   If you order 12 cases of ping-pong balls and Wal-Mart orders 200,000 cases of ping-pong balls, guess which order I am going to rush to fill first?

Just wanted to add, in case anyone else gets a case of tinfoil poisoning and decides to go full retard like this... I don't just play a forum Administrator on TV. I started this site, I own the site, I run the site. I'm not just "an" administrator, I'm the Administrator. And I'm note deleting anything. I'm leaving this out there like a head on a spike at the castle gate... a speed bump for stupidity. Here there be dragons, chief.

Bye.  :wave:

  This x100000.  Keep the weapon loaded.  Lock it away during the day if you need, but keep it loaded.  And I mean one in the chamber loaded.  It's useless to you if you can't deploy it, single handed, in the nick of time.  Don't fool yourself and think you're necessarily going to have time to wake up from your slumber and chamber a round before someone's already in your immediate vicinity.

  Yep.  I hadn't seen it until a few years ago myself.  It's kind of common in the IDPA circles too as a safety mechanism, for certain stages.  I figure that's where these folks saw it based on their videos.

  I've seen it taught in classes. Basic idea is to keep your weak hand away tucked in close and away from the firearm during the initial draw, bringing them together at the chest and punching out together.   The instructors who innovated that to begin with have started moving away from that and teaching "natural movement" where your weak hand meets your strong hand down near the belt where the firearm is being drawn from, and punching out together from there.  It's funny how you can kind of spot "tiers" in the instructor world by seeing who is still teaching concepts that the top tier instructors maybe taught a few years ago and have since moved away from while they continue to innovate.   The lower tiers of instructors kind of lag behind the times by a year or two it seems.   Anyway, you asked and that's why.

Eh... not sure about that.  NRA is the 300lb gorilla.  I've already had requests to add GOA, 2FA and a bunch of other crap.  I think I'm going to just leave it with NRA for now.  People know what that is.

  That's cool -- as long as you brought more drinks, we can always use a second shift.  :)

Yeah, I looked and I Googled.  You guys are endeavoring to be "professional vloggers" (video bloggers) and shooting is kind of the latest thing for you all.  If you're not looking for crap from people, the Internet is the wrong place for it.  A lot of us here have learned to keep our family out of the eye of the Internet for various reasons that you're probably not considering while you try to establish yourselves as YouTube celebrities.   Be careful with that.

  Agreed.  He looks about as comfortable carrying that sign as I would feel giving spongebaths at an Occupy Wallstreet camp.