TGO David

  I wish I could tell you that Andy fought the good fight, and the Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but prison is no fairy-tale world...

  Average MPH?  I suspect you mean MPG.  13 mpg average it seems no matter what it's doing.  Same whether we're driving around town or towing a heavy 1960's Oldsmobile across two states on a trailer.  It just doesn't deviate from that mpg much.   Would rather not say what color ours is as my wife drives it more than I do and she doesn't need the notoriety from TGO.

  You and me both.  :)   And seriously, I can't read your posts without hearing H. Jon Benjamin's voice.  That's awesome.

We get this question a lot.  A member wants to buy a TGO sticker or a Benefactor membership but doesn't have a PayPal account, doesn't want one, and isn't going to sign up for one.     No problem!   Having an account with PayPal is not necessary at all.  Members can still purchase these things and merely use the PayPal interface to process your Visa, MasterCard, American Express or Discover card just like they would anywhere else.  And we are working on adding another credit card processor to the mix as well.       But can I just mail a check instead?   Unfortunately, no.  Electronic transactions help us keep things automated and less burdensome for the folks behind the scenes.  Sorry.            

Mine is the 350ST in all black.  The finish holds up to a TON of abuse.  Spend some time looking on eBay and you'll find them for about $115 shipped.

Yes, CHMR has benches.

  Refer to my new (as in just now) avatar.     Oh yeah, decals... just FYI for folks who are reading, those will be mailed out this weekend.

I've read elsewhere that he used the AR and the 10mm Glock on everyone else, and suck-started the SIG 9mm when he was done.  Not sure how accurate that is though.

  What we need is some damning proof that implicates the government.  Right now there is none that anyone has been able to find.  Conveniently the Connecticut State Police just yesterday released their final determination of what guns were used in the Sandy Hook school shooting.  You can see the report here.   For some reason it took them four weeks to nail down the details on what guns were used.  Four weeks.  Ray Charles, rest his soul, could have come to a conclusion faster than that.   I'm with you guys to an extent.  Something smells.  I'm not stealing my wife's Reynolds Wrap just yet but I know where she keeps it.

  No joke and no exaggeration.  The past month has sucked.  A lot.

Thanks.  So let me elaborate a little and just put this out there.  The staff and I are pretty much worn out.  Between the server problems that I've been fighting for almost 30-40 hours a week on top of my normal 40-50 hr job and then all of the chaos surrounding the political climate, we've been burning the candle at both ends and in the middle.  Something had to give.   It didn't take long for me to spot the fact that regardless of our good intentions and desire to not allow people to post a bunch of crap on TGO at ridiculous mark-ups, the bottom line is there was just no practical way for us to police that stuff.  And furthermore, we shouldn't.   If somene wants to list PMAGs for $100 each, I will be the first to agree [privately] that they're out of their minds and that sooner or later the market WILL correct itself and those things won't be worth near that much money.  But we see this in the stock market every day and no one complains if they make bank off of Google stock today after paying a fraction for it a few months ago.  This is the free market and that's just how people make money.   That being said, I'm sure some folks are getting sick and tired of the rules changing every week or two. Believe me... so am I.   That's why this is the final word on pricing in the Trading Post.  The market will determine what is a realistic price from here on out.  But we're absolutely not going to tolerate people crapping in each other's threads either.  If something is priced high, so be it.  Keep the comments out of those threads and let them die on the vine.

Folks; As we stated originally, we have been struggling with the best way to handle the issue of price gouging. The final evolution of our stance on this issue is simply this.   The market will decide what an item is worth.   Prices for firearms, ammo, magazines, etc. are completely chaotic right now. There is no way to predict or police what an item should be worth, nor is it right for us to attempt to do so. From this point forward, we acknowledge that things are worth what people will pay for them. If the people do not want to see items listed at 500% markup, then the people should simply stop buying them and force the market to balance itself. That being said, this statement absolutely does not negate our policy against interfering with another person's Trading Post ad. As stated in our Trading Post policies:           Thank you for your understanding, cooperation and patience while we sorted this mess out for ourselves. While we acknowledge this policy shift may not make everyone happy, we believe that it is the right thing to do and reduces the absurd number of rules and guidelines that we were being forced to erect around how people could use the Trading Post. This keeps it simple. Carry on. :)

Effective April 8, 2020, all rules and guidelines for using the TGO Trading Post are now found in this article. Please always refer to this article for the most up-to-date guidelines.

Effective April 8, 2020, all rules and guidelines for using the TGO Trading Post are now found in this article. Please always refer to this article for the most up-to-date guidelines.

Effective April 8, 2020, all rules and guidelines for using the TGO Trading Post are now found in this article. Please always refer to this article for the most up-to-date guidelines.

  You need to get out there and drive the little nubbies off the tires some more.

  Not knowing and not caring and then doing are how good people end up in jail for stupid crap.  I would not recommend that course of action.

Ours is going back to Ford tomorrow for some warranty repair work involving the climate controls and inability to adjust the blower motor.  Literally this is the only problem we've had out of it in the year and a half that we've owned it.

  I said THOSE stars and bars... not "The Stars and Bars", first of all.  Second, I'm really not sure TGO is the right place for you or anyone else who thinks along the trajectory you've been following lately.  I'm sick and tired of the borderline secessionist / militia-esque nonsense.  This isn't the group for that.  This isn't the forum for that and I damn sure don't want the sort of attention that it brings.   Take it elsewhere.   Closing this thread.

  Even if that's the truth, the media will quickly sweep it under the rug.

There's not a damn thing wrong with THIS flag. Men and women have bled and died for it. It represents what is still the greatest nation on this planet; a nation which has selflessly done more good for others than any in history. It represents dreams, and ideas and ideals. It represents freedom. You may not like what's going on in Washington or even our own state capitol, but that doesn't mean those stars and bars are any less beloved today than they were a month, a year, a decade or a lifetime ago. No, I've got the only flag I need and it's the one worth fighting for. Your flag seems... divisive to me. We don't need that crap. We need more unity.

  Who's bill?

And on that note, I'm signing an Executive Order and closing this thread.  ;)  

  Honestly, I agree with the spirit of what your instructor said.  The bottom line is that an establishment doesn't have to post a sign on their door at all.  It's private property, and if someone spots you carrying a handgun on your person and the management tells you to leave, you have to leave.  Period.   If you refuse, the police can be called and they will have no choice but to make you leave.  They may not like it either given that the establishment wasn't posted, but the bottom line remains it's private property and your ability to be there relies strictly on their permission to do so.   Unless we are talking about a location that is strictly prohibited by law for you to carry within, you have a fundamental decision to make when you see any sort of anti-firearms posting:   a.)  Take your money elsewhere b.)  Ignore the sign, risk being "made" and risk a misdemeanor charge of trespass.     Option "B" is what you'd open yourself up to if you simply didn't notice the sign to begin with and had no clue they were posted.

I'd refund the guy his money and tell him you're sorry he lives in a Commie-ass state like Illinois, and then list any future sales as being not available to people in certain states.