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I will protect me and mine. I don't carry a badge and I didn't sign on to be 'Protector of the Universe.' Now, if the victim were a small child (taking the risk that I've misinterpreted and the 'victim' is actually a midget gang-banger), my response would be different but with an adult - female or male - I figure that person has the same option of arming themselves as I have and a 100 lb. female can pull a trigger as well as a 300 lb. bouncer. That is why firearms are the 'great equalizer'. If they choose not to excercise that option then it isn't my responsibility to take up the slack for them. I will not willingly interject myself into a situation that could end in legal trouble or even jail time for me on behalf of an unknown thrd party. If that makes me a 'coward' or less of 'a man' or whatever then I can live with that. As I often say, I ain't got nobody to impress. I will also not willingly interject myself into a situation that could end with me getting killed. For all I know, the assailant might be out of his mind on PCP and shooting him might just have the effect of pissing him off and having him turn that knife on me. I just couldn't live with myself if I were dead.

Gorgeous gun. I don't know anything about that, particular gun but I really like SA revolvers and I really like .357s. My only SA revolvers at the moment are a Heritage Rough Rider .22 combo and a Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag but a .357 single action (probably a Blackhawk) is pretty high up on my want list (along with a Rossi .357, 16 inch barreled lever gun.) I don't shoot SAA or Cowboy Action, either - like you, I just really like those guns.

I agree. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I don't think that an arrest record, mugshot or anything else should become public record or be available for public access, printing by the press or anything else until and unless the person is either convicted, pleads guilty or, at the very least, pleads 'no contest'. If a person is found to not be guilty of a crime of which they are accused, I believe there should be laws requiring that all physical records of the arrest should be completely and utterly destroyed and any electronic record completely and totally erased and that the public should never have any access to such records. Innocent until proven guilty means just that and people who are not found to be guilty should not be tried and found 'guilty' in the court of public opinion. I have never been arrested but if I were arrested and it was for a crime that I did not commit then I shouldn't spend years or even the rest of my life paying for a crime which I did not commit and of which I was found not guilty.

This. And I certainly have no responsibility to get shot while trying to help out a novice. Especially one I don't know and who isn't hot. There is a guy on the Kel Tec site who was recently shot in the leg by someone he was teaching 'the ropes' when a piece of hot brass went down her shirt and she started waving the gun around like a ninnie. I really don't get such an over-reaction. I have had hot brass go down the back of the collar on a shirt and I didn't start waving the gun around, etc. Hell, when my dad was still alive I used to help him out, sometimes, by holding things in place while he cut them with a torch or welded them. I remember doing so starting when I was about twelve or thirteen. You want to talk hot, let a little sliver of glowing hot metal 'pop' up and go down your shirt or slide down inside your glove (I'm sure there are some metal workers here who know exactly what I am talking about) then talk to me about hot brass - and even then I didn't dance around and act like an idiot.

Personally, I wish that someone would 'donate' such a piddly-assed amount to me. I wouldn't even complain about it being such a small percentage of their net worth.

A few months back, Mia - my little, old chihuahua, died. She was seventeen and I had her from the time she was first weaned. She wasn't the typical 'shiver and snap' chihuahua - she actually liked people although she knew to bark if someone was outside who didn't belong there. She made just about the perfect watchdog (not to be confused with a guard dog) when I lived in the 'hood in Knoxville. In fact, I still believe she saved my life one night. Her barking woke me at around 2am. Knowing that she didn't just bark for no reason, I took my .38 and went to check things out - and ended up stopping three guys who were trying to break in the front door. When I first got Mia, I was still in college. She was with me for the latter half of my twenties, my entire thirties and was still there with me when I turned 40 and almost until my 41st birthday. She was there when my wife and I started dating, when we got engaged, when we got married and was still there after we separated. She was there through the death of my grandmother (with whom I lived while I was attending college) and my father. No matter what, she was always glad to see me and, despite her small stature and while I knew she wouldn't be much in a fight, I always felt that she 'had my back', so to speak. Many friends - some I considered close friends - came and went but that little dog was always there, a constant for seventeen years. And then she was gone. I wanted to post a pic of her but don't seem to have any on Photobucket at the moment (I'll have to remedy that.) Well, I was in no hurry to get another dog but I wasn't exactly opposed to it, either. I knew that, as I live in the country, now, I wanted a bigger dog. I wanted a dog that could come in the house and keep me company but that would also be fine staying out in the yard at times. I wanted a dog that could walk the woods with me without my having to worry too much about the coyotes in our area making a quick snack of it. I also generally prefer female dogs as they don't usually have the same need to mark their territory (by hiking their leg and peeing all over everything) as some male dogs but gender would not be a deal breaker. I had decided to just wait until the right opportunity came along. Funny thing was, a couple of weeks later, it did. I was at the Crossville flea market trying to get rid of some extra Bantam roosters that I had when I saw a lady and her kids were giving away a couple of puppies. The lady said that they were a cur mix (further research leads me to believe that she is mostly a Mountain Cur - apparently the same type of dog as Old Yeller was in the book although not the movie.) Both puppies were female. The lady said that they had to take them from their mother before it was really 'time' because she was trying to wean them early and had been snapping at them, etc. and they were afraid she was going to hurt them. They were only about five or six weeks old at the time. Something about the smaller of the two called out to me and I ended up taking her home. From the second I first held her, she took to me - licking my chin and chewing at my beard as if she'd known me all along. I named her Millie, which is a name I never would have thought to give a dog but just seemed to fit her (I didn't know at the time that one of G.W. Bush's dogs was named Millie and not being a big 'fan' of Bush that certainly isn't why I chose the name.) The day I got her, if I cupped both of my hands together she could curl up and lie down in my palms. This is a picture of her from just the other day, at about 3.5 months old: Now, generally she is an energetic (until she gives out at which time she converts to more or less a puppy shaped sack of potatoes), fun loving, fairly easy going puppy who hasn't quite gotten that whole fine motor skills thing down. My mom is my next door neighbor so she stays with her while I am at work. She plays with and loves mom's dogs. She plays with an loves my sister's kids. She even plays well with my estranged wife's miniature daschund and never hurts the little weiner dog despite now being nearly three times her size. She does well at the vet, seems to like most people and makes me laugh a lot. The other night, I was at my mom's house just hanging out and getting ready to take Millie home when mom's dogs started barking and carrying on. Obvously, there was something in the woods behind her house (which would also be behind mine.) It isn't unusual for them to behave that way as we have coyotes, deer and other critters that sometimes get pretty close after dark. I went ahead and put Millie on her leash (I always have her on a leash when she is outside because I am trying to teach her to stay close to me when we are walking around) and headed outside. My front yard has a fence around it and there is a gate between my yard and mom's. I had just gotten Millie through the gate, closed it and started toward my front door when she quickly (as in so quickly that my eyes couldn't really follow her) ran/leaped from my right side over to my left, yanking hard on the leash. She then started barking at an area somewhere around the back corner of the fence. Now, I have heard her 'arf' sometimes when she is playing but there was nothing playful about this bark. In fact, she finished off the bark with a low, guttural growl then stood her ground with her hackles up. For just a few seconds, my little, goofy, clumsy, happy-go-lucky, twenty pound puppy was gone and a little mutt with the heart of a 195 pound Rotweiler stood in her place. I never saw whatever was there but with the way she was acting (and the way mom's dogs acted) it may well have been a coyote. Whatever it was, it spooked her because when I got her started back toward the house she hurried along with her ears back in her typical 'I'm scared' look. That was when I realized that this little, THREE AND A HALF MONTH OLD PUPPY had just knowingly, willingly and without hesitation flung herself between me and something she viewed as a threat. Not only that but, despite being quite scared, she had held her ground and barked/growled a challenge and a warning that Ol' Whatever-It-Was had darned well better back off and leave her master alone or it was going to have her to deal with. After I got her inside I got the shotgun and went back out to see if I could lay eyes on the thing that had upset her so. For her part, she kept barking and - once again in spite of the fact that she was scared, herself - tried her best to get out the door with me and not let me go back out there alone. I was touched and, I must admit, pretty proud of her. So, anyhow, that's my tribute to the memory of my old friend as well as a little bragging on my new one.

I don't own a revolver in .32 Long but I know someone who owns an old H&R snubbie so chambered and I have shot it several times. I think it is a super fun round for punching paper and was suprised at how accurate that little snub was. I have read opinions from a few gun writers, etc. who like a longer barreled revolver in .32 Long for small game/varmint hunting. I currently don't own anything so chambered. My Nagant revolver will fire them just fine (I've put a few through it) but that is, of course, not optimal (I'm not recommending it to anyone else, just saying that I have done it. Along those lines, now that I have begun dabbling in reloading a little, I started thinking that if I decided to reload .32 Long then I could likely pick up a H&R or similar so chambered for less than $150 if I keep my eyes open. It wouldn't really be a first-line or even necessarily second-line defense gun, just something for plinking fun, mostly - but if I could reload with modern JHP bullets intended for .32acp I wonder if I could safely load them hot enough to get expansion and maybe make it 'SD worthy' even if I never really employed it in such a capacity. Another thing I have thought about is that Heritage builds a Rough Rider in .32 H&R Magnum. I think one of those would be fun to mess around with but haven't really pursued the idea because ammo (whether Long or Mag) is relatively expensive. Again, though, since one of those can fire .32 Long if I were loading my own I'm thinking it should be pretty economical - especially if I loaded a plain jane lead bullet for plinking, etc. I'm actually wondering if it couldn't be done for about the same price as shooting a .22LR. I'm sure it could be done for less expense than shooting most .22Mag. So, anyone reload for .32 S&W Long? If so, I'd like to hear your thoughts, ideas, advice, etc. before I decide if that is something I would like to add.

http://videosift.com...de-of-Duct-Tape I've always thought it would be kind of cool to build a boat. Being that I am aquaphobic, can't swim and wouldn't like being out in the water in anything much smaller than a wide-bodied john boat (in other words, nothing I could build) - even if it were professionally built - I guess I won't be doing that any time soon.

Here's a real Abe Lincoln quote for ya': Maybe it isn't so bad that much of modern society's thinking is different from his. Oh, and a bonus quote from a letter written in 1862 to Horace Greeley, editor of the New York Tribune, by the 'Great Emancipator' showing how he really felt about emancipation, Lincoln stated: And he followed that up in reality. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free one, single slave. It only applied to slaves in states or portions of states that were still in rebellion (over which Lincoln and the U.S. government had no say at the time.) That would be like Obama signing a proclamation declaring that women in Syria are all now to be considered free and equal citizens - it meant nothing and its only purpose was to gain support for his side in the war. The Emancipation Proclamation left slaves in non-rebelling states or states/portions of states that had already been 'reclaimed' in slavery. But the Civil War was all about Lincoln freeing the slaves. Riiiiight. Sorry, the whole 'Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents' thing is a sore point with me. Every time I hear someone say that I want to vomit.

I'm still wondering if a .22LR headshot would take care of the 'undead' type zombies. I think it would depend on whether or not simply damaging the brain is enough or if (as I suspect) the actual brain stem (likely the only part of the brain that would still be in use) has to be seriously damaged or destroyed. If the latter, I question whether a shot to the front or sides of the cranial vault with a .22LR would do the trick reliably and consistently. A shot to the brain stem area probably would but such a shot may not always present itself. That plus my feeling that, depending on the angle, the washed lead bullets in a .22LR might not have enough left after penetrating a zombie skull to do enough damage to the brain to neutralize a member of the undead would make me hesitant to rely on a .22LR for the task (remember, we are talking about shutting down a reanimated corpse, not simply doing enough damage to stop a living organism.) Personally, given that ammo capacity/the need to reload frequently wouldn't be a factor if I am on a rooftop, I think my Marlin 925M would be an interesting solution if .22LR wouldn't work and if the added power and superior bullet design of the WMR would increase performance enough that it would get the job done. Yes, the .22 Mag is louder than a LR but it still isn't going to be as loud as a high powered rifle plus it is easy to shoot accurately.

Yeah, I think that putting a convex (secondary) grind on a blade is what I was referring to earlier when I was talking about 'pulling down' the edge. I just didn't know the proper terminology so thanks for mentioning that. I would be interested to hear the method for doing that with the mouse pad and sandpaper.

Well, you could always go with, "I've been thinking about this Beretta Storm 9mm carbine. I like the way they look but they cost around $800. For that price I could almost do an AR. Of course, I guess I could get a Hi-Point 9mm carbine for around $300 and make that work but that $800 Beretta is awfully nice..." That way, it isn't about spending $300 for the Hi-Point but is instead about not spending $800 for something else.

I copied the pic from the linked article that shows the side of the slide into Microsoft Word (just because that was the easiest way to do it) then made the picture larger until I could read what is engraved on the slide. The words are "Russell Engineering" with the 'R' in Russell being as tall as both lines of the remaining letters. A search indicated that there really is a company called Russell Engineering but they are a construction firm (apparently build bridges and other, large scale projects.) I could find nothing about a firearm with 'Russell' as the manufacturer. Maybe someone else can. I also noticed that in the pic, even with the slide fully forward, there is a huge gap at the side of where the 'chamber' would be. Something about the grips make me think that they are from a real gun, though - I can't put my finger on the exact gun but I feel like I have seen a gun with grips and a grip angle like that. I think it was an old .32 of one kind or another and have to wonder if maybe the prop master took the frame from an old gun that was missing pieces and simply mocked up a fake slide assembly for it. Then, again, something about the trigger position doesn't look right, either - it looks like the rear of the trigger sits too close to the frame. Of course, maybe this is the 'hammer down' position and the trigger would move forward if the hammer were in the 'cocked' position.

Cool and thanks for the info. My place of work is on Lovell Road so I may have to try and stop by Turkey Creek, soon.

I don't know about it being just the one store and I've been wondering along the lines of what the OP was thinking. I have been looking at WM for Federal bulk packs as that is what all of my .22s seem to shoot best of the bulk pack stuff. I have checked at least three Walmart locations (Lenoir City, Madisonville and the one in Maryville on 411) and none of them have any Federal. The LC Walmart had some Winchester but I think they were sold out of those the last time I was in there, too. The Madisonville one had some Winchester in the 555 and 333 round boxes but I'd really rather have the Federal. The Winchester does better than Remington Golden Crap but not as well as the Federal. In fact, when I checked the one in Maryville on Sunday, they had no bulk pack .22 at all and barely had any of the smaller packs. Strangely, they seemed to have plenty of centerfire ammo - even Federal Hydroshoks in some calibers - but the .22 (both LR and WMR) was scarce.

I will probably pick up a bullet puller before too long. I was kind of wishing I had one last night when I realized what I had done. I think I will probably end up keeping those first two screwups just as a reminder to pay attention and double check each step before running a bunch of casings/rounds through. For the future, though, I'll probably want a bullet puller. I only need so many reminders of my screw ups and I'll want to recoup any components that can be salvaged, if any.

I don't sharpen my knives nearly as often, anymore, but when I was a teen (and had nothing better to do) I used to keep every knife in the house pretty much razor sharp. My pocket knives, my fixed blade knives, mom's kitchen knives - everything. All I ever used were stones and a piece of scrap leather here or there. I'm honestly not as good at sharpening them now as I was back then. I think part of that is the fact that back then I was dealing with more carbon steel whereas now it is more stainless that I am trying to sharpen. I am also admittedly out of practice. However, one thing I discovered early on and that holds true to this day is that I can not sharpen a knife with a stone using the method that is generally recommended. Most times I see knife sharpening instructions, etc. they say to draw the edge of the knife toward the stone edge-first as if you are trying to slice off a thin slice of the stone. I'll ruin an edge every time if I try that. Instead, I draw the blade in the opposite direction with the edge trailing the rest of the blade. For some reason I seem to be able to get the angle right using that method and can generally get at least a decent edge on most any blade. Something else I have noticed is that, for the most part, I don't work too well with factory edges. I pretty much have to - well, we always called it pulling the edge down, meaning the obvious, factory edge goes away and is replaced by a more gradual edge with what I can only think to describe as a more smooth, rounded bevel to it. I've never tried that with a flat-ground edge, though. The big exception to this is filet knives. For those, I just use those cheapo sharpeners that have two, small pieces of ceramic in a plastic piece. I like the ones that are double-sided with both a rough and smoother set of ceramic rods. They help make getting the correct angle easier. Come to think of it, while I don't think they do much for a knife that is well and truly dull, I think those things work pretty well for maintaining an edge on pretty much any blade that isn't too thick to go into them. These are the things I am talking about: http://www.amazon.com/Rapala-Ceramic-Sharpener-Two-Stage/dp/B000EYY9K4

I have and sometimes carry semiautos. There are a couple I really like. If for some horrible, nightmarish reason I had to choose between them and my wheelguns, well, let's just say I'd probably miss the bottom feeders a little once they were gone.

Well, I finally hemmed, hawed, read and researched enough. Got my powder measure and Lee Challenger press mounted to a thick board and even bought a small work table (old, small computer desk - got it at Goodwill for fifteen bucks!) I have the board to which the reloading equipment is mounted clamped to the desk with 'C' clamps so I can use that table for workspace for other things simply by unclamping the board and moving the reloading stuff out of the way. One good thing about the fact that I am now living alone is that there is no one to complain about me doing my reloading in the living room (well, there is my puppy but she doesn't get a say.) Anyhow, last night I decided to quit talking about it and do it. It took me a bit to get going because I had to assemble and zero the scale that came with the kit so I could double-check the charge being thrown by the powder measure on the scale. In a fit of paranoia, I then dug out another scale that I bought at a gun show a couple of years ago (yeah, I have been intending to get started for that long) so I could double check the first scale that I was using to double check the powder measure. Once I was satisfied with that, I was ready to proceed. I had a couple of false starts - I had the die that bells the case mouth set too deep at first. Expanded the case too much so the first round I loaded to check everything wouldn't go in the chamber on my 642. Adjusted that to get the cases expanded enough but not too much (double checked that I could get the bullet into the mouth of the casing to be seated but that the empty brass would still chamber) and loaded another one. It chambered fine but then I realized I had been concentrating on the expander so much that I had forgotten to charge the case before I seated the bullet. D'oh! So the actual first two I loaded are in an unused drawer (I'm calling it 'The Drawer of Shame: Lessons Learned') with 'No Shoot' written on the casings in black Sharpie. Not intending to brood over my errors too much, I moved on and loaded a few more complete with a charge of powder. I decided to just load eleven to begin with - one full load (6) to test in my Taurus 66 and one full load (5) to test in my S&W 642. I plan to shoot them this evening after work to test them out as long as we don't have yet another thunderstorm. And without further ado, here they are - the products of my first ever reloading session, eleven successfully loaded rounds: *125 grain lead semiwadcutter bullet from HSM (looks more like a tapered flat point, to me, but the company calls them semiwadcutters.) *5.5 grains of Accurate #5. That was the starting load recommended when I contacted Accurate - their data said it should do about 795fps which, according to the online calculator I found, should give me about 175.4 foot pounds. Those paper targets will never know what hit them - we'll see whether or not I have to up it a little to get good accuracy. Their recommended max load for standard pressure .38 using #5 and a 125 grain lead swc is 6.5 grains for about 932fps so I should have some 'wiggle room'. Accurate #5 was recommended to me by someone I trust - he said that, for a beginner, a powder that uses a little more powder per load than some others makes double charging a case less likely. I might experiment with other powders later on or, if I really like the results from #5, I might not. *CCI small pistol primer *Once fired brass saved from previous shooting sessions. Mix of Remington and Winchester .38 Special brass. My mistake with the expander caused me to notice something about the brass. Since I had several primed casings that were over-expanded (primed them on the downstroke after expanding on the upstroke) before I thought to check, I decided to run those back through the sizing die to see if they could be salvaged. Most of them went okay and were sized back down but I had about a dozen that either crushed or split (only two or three split, the rest crushed.) The thing I noticed was that the majority of the cases that couldn't be saved were Winchester - only one or two Remington cases were among them. That makes me wonder if Remington brass is a little stronger and might give more reloads before I have to toss them.

I don't have any training with a knife as a weapon. Beyond the possibility of a last ditch, better than harsh language scenario such a use isn't very likely, for me (which isn't to say that I never carry a knife with that last ditch scenario in mind.) However, for me, there are still reasons a fixed blade is preferable to a pocket knife, sometimes, for various reasons. One is strength. I have actually had the blades of pocket knives get 'loose' (as in side-to-side play) in the handle over time just from the pressure from sharpenening them on a whet rock. My feeling is that, no matter how well a folder is made, that pivot point is always going to be a potential 'weak point'. Fixed blades don't have that, particular weak point. One is comfort. Unlike folders, the handle on a fixed blade doesn't have to be a compromise between being a handle and being a place to hold/hide/cover/protect the blade when folded. Therefore, it can be designed solely as a secure, comfortable grip. Largely because of this, I often find a fixed blade easier to 'work with'. One is safety. Years ago, while trying to open a cardboard tube, I had a non-locking pocket knife close on my fingers. I like to keep my knives sharp and back then (in my teens) I kept them razor sharp as I had little else to do with my time. It sliced the knuckle of my right, middle finger down to the bone (literally - I could see the bone of my knuckle.) Fixed blade knives don't close on your hand/fingers (of course, a locking blade folder is pretty secure but the nature of the fixed blade means there is no chance of a lock failing, etc. - it can't close on your hand.) Further, a fixed blade can have a bolster or even a true guard to prevent hands slick with sweat or other fluids from slipping onto the blade. Ease of access does figure in. Although not as much a factor with the availability of one hand opening/assisted opening folders that clip onto the pocket, I still find a fixed blade easier to access in some situations. Fishing is a good example - if a fish swallows the hook and I can't get it out then cutting the line is the next, best option. Even if I plan to keep/eat the fish I don't like to cause it the distress of ripping a hook out of its guts. I find a fixed blade easier to use when standing in a stream, trying to juggle a squirming trout and my fishing rod with one hand while deploying the knife with the other. I also generally find a fixed blade easier to access/deploy when in a seated position (that is where a fixed blade neck knife really shines.) In my daily life, a fixed blade in a belt sheath would be frowned upon by my employer. When not at work, I carry a firearm and my method for carry is strong side OWB which doesn't leave much room for a knife sheath. Still, I have taken to more or less EDCing a neck knife - in addition to a pocket knife or two - because there are times when I want a fixed blade. I might eventually have to look into a fixed blade for weak-side, horizontal carry for when I am not at work but for now I think I like the neck knives better.

I like the looks of the blade in that one.

I've shot Glocks. I've held even more Glocks than I have shot. I don't like them. Not because of the looks but, as others have said, simply because I don't like the way they feel. Further, I am no fan of striker fired pistols. I'm sure they are just as good, safe, etc. as anything else when handled properly - they just aren't what I prefer. So, this isn't a case of, "If you'd just try one, you'd see..." I've test-driven them, kicked the tires, etc. Didn't like the Kool-aid, spat it out and poured the rest down the drain. I won't say that I wouldn't own a Glock - I'd happily accept one as a gift - but I will never buy one. If that makes me somebody's pet peeve or whatever then oh, well. Of course, just to further kick the hornet's nest, I'm not all that enamored of 1911s, either.

Just as the law says (sorry, can't answer your question without quoting the law): No need to put it in my own words because if I don't see the circle/slash or something very close to the phrase outlined in the law, I do not consider it to be a legal posting. As I said, even though I still wouldn't technically consider them to be 'legal' postings, I probably wouldn't take a chance on a sign that said something along the lines of: PER T.C.A. 39-17-1359, WEAPONS ARE PROHIBITED ON THIS PROPERTY or even a sign that reads: PER STATE LAW, THIS PROPERTY IS POSTED TO PROHIBIT THE POSSESSION OF WEAPONS If, however, there is no circle/slash and the language reads along the lines of the following phrases: It is our policy not to allow weapons on our premises; Firearms prohibited; Weapons prohibited; You are welcome. Your guns are not. In the interest of the safety of our customers, no firearms are allowed on these premises or any such phrase that does not in some way mention T.C.A. 39-17-1359 or, at minimum, make reference to 'state law' then - if for some reason I don't just go somewhere else simply to avoid giving them my business and as long as I am carrying in a well concealed manner at the time - I would not be deterred from legally carrying by such a sign.

Sorry, I live in the East so I can't really help you there. I did want to say, though, that if you just want to have the caliber 'covered' that the 995 would probably be a good choice and you might want to consider a Hi-Point 9mm pistol or two to go with it. From what I have heard, the 9mm pistol mags won't work with the carbine because of the baseplate or something but I've heard that the carbine mags will work in the pistols just fine. Some folks - even those who appreciate the carbines - don't have a very high opinion of their pistols but from my limited exposure to them they would make some pretty good 'stash guns' just to have a handgun in 9mm if you don't already have a pistol so chambered.

I thought that it doesn't matter if the ammo is in a mag or not as long as any ammo (including that in loaded mags) is separated from the firearm. Yep, Gray Firearms Laws, for sure.