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I agree. It'd have to be awful nice to make me commit adultery on my 686. And I really can't imagine it having as nice a trigger as my 15-3 either. However, the one thing I do like about it is that Kimber did what Smith and Ruger should have and very well could have done a long time ago. They made it a six shot cylinder, and in something akin to a "J-frame." I should have kept my old Colt Detective Special years ago. It, of course, was not much larger at all than a j frame, and held six rounds. Sometimes I wish I didn't have such fits of tradin' fever.

Nope, you're not the last person to see it. I just got around to checking my email this morning and found an email from Mas Ayoob where he mentioned it. In some ways it looks nice, and in others it doesn't. I can't imagine it being any more aesthetically pleasing or stronger or more accurate than a Smith or Ruger, just different.

I've purchased online before, as I'm sure most everyone has. If not guns, then coats or fishing gear or etc, etc........ I can only speak for myself on this one, but at the time, I had not even thought of tax, thus I was not trying to avoid sales tax. The issue for me was the fact that on certain items, and I mean I was shopping "price point versus price point", if I can get a new gun online for $100 to $200 less in some cases --- and AGAIN -- I'm talking "price versus price" alone -- leaving "sales tax versus shipping" out of the equation, I went with the much cheaper price. At the rate of some online prices, I think even if the online retailers started charging sales tax, they would still beat the pants off of a shelf price. I shop regularly at one particular gun store in Clarksville, and I think very highly of the owners. If I need something and the price is only a few dollars difference between them and somewhere else, I'd rather give them my business. However, if it's a very substantial amount of difference (for me), then I'll buy elsewhere. For example, if I find myself in need of a new "board stretcher" and "solar powered welding rods" and I find them online AND at my local widget shop, I'm going to compare. Let's say that both the local "We-B-Widgets" and the online store BOTH charge sales tax - for the sake of argument, equal percentage of sales tax. "We-B-Widgets" charges $60 bucks for the board stretcher, but the online store charges $25 plus $10 shipping, where am I going to shop? I like to support local quality businesses, but at the end of the day it's also important for me and my family to save money as well. Like I said, if there's only a few bucks difference, then so be it. But a very substantial difference is, well, different. This is just my personal opinion here, but, depending on dealer cost and needed margin, would it hurt for the local dealers to bring their prices down some? OR, would it be such a crime for the bigger suppliers to charge the local dealers a little less, thereby giving the local dealers a little breathing room?

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  Ya know ya can't say something like that and not put pictures up. :drool:

Well, looks like he's gonna do it. I'm taking it up to Binkley in Chapmansboro on Saturday. I'll shop for a new yoke for the Smith while I'm there.

Yep, if he decides to do it, it's just a matter of milling out that extra 1/10th. I just don't have the equipment to do it. If he insists on doing it I want to make sure the chambers are properly throated. I don't know for sure if he'll ever go through with it, but I'm trying to prepare ahead of time.

Oh, he's CONSTANTLY buying another gun. As far as he's concerned, he's not worried one bit about collector value. He'll never sell it anyway. But, yeah, that was one of my thoughts as well as far as the intrinsic collector value. I don't know why, but there's just something about the old dedicated .38 Special revolvers. I've been wanting a Six series myself, and I'm watching the prices steadily climb. I may, after all, try to talk him into getting another cylinder. At least IF he ever did want to sell it, the value wouldn't be ruined. Myself, I wouldn't think twice about doing it to a .38 SP101.    I wouldn't mind getting ahold of one of the old 38/44s. I believe those came about during the Elmer Keith era when they needed a heavier frame for his nice hot .38 loads. Come to think of it, I have that old Keith load recipe somewhere around the house. Think I'll cook some of those up for my old Smith Model 15 (just kiddin :angel: ).

Honestly that's what I would think as well, but I'm just practicing a little "straw-grasping." I'm hoping it's all just in the bolt itself. Not a whole lot of things more frustrating than a gun that won't run right.

Oops! Ya caught me! But...it was such a nice car.  :eek:

Wayne Rose in Clarksville did a good job on my G34. Stipple, grip reduction, and finger groove removal. He pops in at Tennessee Gun Country, and I think I have his card somewhere.

I had just started to suggest that. I'm interested to see what the problem is here. Next time you take it out to run it, I would shoot until the problem rears its ugly head again, then stop and change out the entire bolt and carrier assembly. In other words, take out the entire bolt and carrier assembly your using, and install a known "good" assembly. See if it runs fine after that. If it does, you might keep using the "good" carrier, but change back to your original bolt and see if it happens again. Maybe it's just me, but that gap in the bolt where the rings ride seems a touch wide to me. If neither work, have the gas block checked. If I understood right, your gas block has been changed out. I've run into that before, where the block was ever so slightly out of alignment, not really even visible to the naked eye, but it wasn't getting enough gas.   Just suggesting a process of elimination. All that and a bottle of Tylenol may get you back on track. I hope!

I searched but didn't find anything.    I friend of mine has the Ruger Service Six in stainless. It is the .38 Special model. From the research I've done, I've noted that Ruger performed the exact same heat treatment on the .38 model during manufacturing that they did on the .357 model. I also know that some folks who have had the .38 model have had a good gunsmith bore the chambers out (lengthen) to that extra 1/10th of an inch required to chamber .357 cartridges. In other words, it is well established that the Ruger is perfectly suited to this and has no problem handling the higher pressure.   He has asked at one or two places in Clarksville about this and received the expected "Oh, that's impossible, can't be done" replies. However, we both know that this has been performed numerous times, and, as stated previously, the Ruger .38 cylinders received the exact same heat treatment as the .357 cylinders.    What I need is a recommendation for a good gunsmith who would have knowledge of this procedure, and be willing to do it. After all, I'm not a gunsmith and even I know what needs to be done, I just don't have the equipment to do it.    And just to cover this part, since it will be brought up: He knows that he could possibly find a .357 cylinder and have it fitted, but he's more interested in the other procedure, and so am I.    And while I'm at it I might as well throw this one in here. I have a Smith Model 15-3 that needs some work (no, I'm not converting it :D) . I think there's a possibility that the crane is bent, but I don't know for sure. Anyone know where I could find some parts, or have a recommendation for a good revolver smith? I live kind of southwest of Clarksville, so my location is not really convenient to anywhere.   I appreciate the help on this.

I have a nice Smith 686 4" waiting for me that used to belong to a dear friend of mine. That'll be one purchase I'll make early this year Lord willing. I've also been dreaming of a stainless Ruger Security Six 4", and I'd love to finally "pull the trigger" on a Smith TALO edition 686. Love to have the 586 L-Comp, but I AIN'T paying that stupid price! Might just get a 2.5 or 3" 686 and cerakote it. I need one more Glock 9mm too. Love to get a lever action Marlin .357, but I ain't paying those stupid prices either, so I might try for a .45-70, maybe. And I hope to get a Beretta 92A1 this year as well. And, I've been eyeing the Smith 640 Pro as well. And, and, and............... No particular order of priority in any of this.

  A home defense SHOGUN?!?!?! Wow! I want one of those too. I didn't know those guys were still around. Just don't piss him off. He carries those scary long sharp blades!  :devil:

Merry Christmas to all fellow TGO members! Thanks for all the contributions from everyone. I've really enjoyed this site.

What's 10MM for?   Why, it's fer shootin stuff the other calibers can't handle! :hiding:

OH NO! We can't have that. Tasers are scary and offensive. They may hurt someone and have possible side effects of their babies being born nekkid or something. And besides, they cause people to burst into spontaneous combustion. You'd think on the left coast all anyone would be issued is a diaper bag.

Well, I'm thinkin if I hurry up and order one I may also be able to get into the navy seals by the end of the week. Or maybe even the Pro Delta Recon Seals! But I'll have to ask my mom first if I can order it.

I was very interested myself until I saw the price point recently. It seems that anytime you have something new come out, especially if it's been hinted at for a while to build up the anticipation, you'll inevitably have people willingly paying high prices. If, later on, there's a DRASTIC price reduction, I may spring for it. But certainly not right now. I have some other projects on my plate right now anyway.

Yes, you are. A member of a minority that is. But you don't have to ask permission to be offended though. That's replaced baseball and football as America's sport. :stalk:

It wasn't in vain. You said what you felt like needed saying. I think most of us here agree with that.   But of course, you know us. Anytime something comes up, we're going to have fun with it. After all, I think it helps to inject a little humor into some situations. Unless of course it's too serious and there's nothing funny about it. There are certainly times and situations where we need to be serious, and most of us recognize that. And there are other times and situations where some folks take everything way too seriously, or not seriously enough. Wisdom and discernment in all situations is key. I'll use my personal life as an example. When my fiends..... I mean friends.... and I talk or get together, we harass each other almost constantly. Unless there is a serious situation going on, then we deal with it in a serious manner. As we've gotten older, I believe we've all realized that life is too short to not have a sense of humor and to not try to interject some joy into life. I believe the Lord has a sense of humor, after all, He made me! So I try not to take myself as seriously as I used to, and I try to be more lighthearted now that I have gotten older.   So, what you did and said here was anything BUT in vain. To me, it has served to bring the issue to the forefront and get folks to be more courteous to each other. AND, it seems to have gotten us back to lightheartedly harassing each other too! ;) So, I for one have enjoyed this thread, and I thank you for posting it.

Good point though Dolomite, I've been guilty of that myself. Although most of the time it's in person. Seems I'm getting bad about it at church. Hmmmm. :)

WADDAYAMEAN?! GETTING UP IN THE MORNING CAUSES ME TO BE LESS NEIGHBORLY!!!!!!!!! AND THEN I HAVE TO TALK TO MY WIFE IN THE MORNING, AND THAT OFFENDS ME! :squint: :rofl:

Well said.