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I got the chance to go deer hunting last evening. I went with my grandson, that was burned in the bon-fire accident. He is doing better and has improved considerably. He still has a few spots, of infection, that has not totally cleared up but His Dr said, "If he kept on improving he would be able to go back to school after the new year break is over." He still has some bad arms but will possibly take a the next year totally heal. He had 3rd degree burns on both arms and hands. His face is healed almost completely except for some pinkish skin which the Dr said should dissipate over time. We sit in a ground blind and finally just right at the end of shooting light had gone, two does walked in and a buck came into the food plot, a short time later, to feed. He asked if I though he should try for the buck, I told him it was too dark so he let him walk. I didn't want to tell him but my old eyes could hardly see the buck's antlers. Oh FOR YOUNG EYES! Any ways it was great fun. I don't have a deer tag and he has filled both his doe tags, but has 2 buck tags remaining. It was great to spend 3 hours with my 15 year old grandson hunting. It was nice, and peaceful to watch nature go to sleep. I may go with him again to another farm of a friends , if the opportunity presents itself. All the years my father and I hunted, we never saw not one deer that was within our kill zones in Eastern KY.. Deer are plentiful, now, in this area of Middle TN. Great, great times.

I put 30 years in the Post Office. You would not believe how we were treated the last 5 years(1999-2004) of my long run. My daughter still works in the Postal system. Believe it or not, it has gotten worse. We had a strong union. We filed 90 grievances, and lost just one. A grievance is filed when a violation of union contract occurs. We would have won the one we lost, but an employee lied under oath. I was the union Stewart or President for about 20 years. I personally witnessed about every kind of evil one could imagine. I sit in an arbitration, where my supervisor, and others, came in and put their hands on the Bible, and swore to tell the truth, then lied through their teeth. I tell you, cold chills came over my body when I witnessed that. I got out of that union job because I didn't want to be a party to such like. My supervisor came to me, after that union proceeding, and told me he was sorry he lied, but he had to keep his job. I told him that I was not really overly concerned about what the outcome of that proceeding would be, but it really bothered me knowing he, and those men, swore before God, then did not tell the truth. IMO, those people condemned themselves to a bad outcome if they don't change their ways. Guys, that is scary to me. I have a healthy fear(respect) for God and no amount of money is worth loosing your soul over. A lot of people have very little morals any longer. Just watch the video posted at the first of this thread, about the forced sell off of Cabela's, and the jerk that forced that to happen, all the while destroying a whole town in Nebraska. The guy in the lumber yard was correct, the hedge fund guy(billionaire), that caused that to happen, his money is his God. Six thousand people in that town now suffers because he did that. To my way of thinking, the money he made is "ill gotten gain." In the hereafter, it will do him no good. Dave, what he did might be legal, but it was unjust. God demands we love our brother as ourselves. This guy did not show love. Guys, the Bible talks about ill gotten gain and the consequences for that. When someone is forced to loose so you can prosper, that profit is ill gotten. It's not pretty what is in store if people don't change! Not many are taught there is a just God and there are severe consequences, in our next life(realm of departed spirits), for violating Godly principals, in our lives, in this realm(realm among the living today). I want to spend eternity with God, in the final realm. That is why I try to live, as I do today. I am not always successful, but try. All one needs to do is pick up the Bible, and do what it says, as best as one can, then leave the rest up to Jesus/ God. Guys, do you realize that the U S has aborted almost 1/2 of the next generation through abortion. Truly a "Sad" state of affairs. RED333, sorry for the rant, but thanks for sharing your struggle with us. IMO, many in this country are sick of the way we are treaded by those over us. These unjust things will not be in store for those who love God and Jesus in the final realm.

RZ, when I reloaded all the time, yes we saved a lot of money. We shot a lot of handguns and rifles during that time, and we did not count our time in the cost. You probably have at least $1000.00 tied up in your reloading equipment and several more dollars in reloading components. For someone who fires 200-500 rounds max per year , it ain't worth the effort and money spent to get into reloading, let alone the cost of attaining the skill to be able to reload safely. One of my local gun stores has classes to teach people to reload, but the y are pricy(25.00 per hr). If I was shooting 2 or 3 thousand rounds per weekend I would reload for sure. No more than I shoot now, I just purchase factory ammo. I would not use reloaded ammo for self defense at all. I have a friend who purchased a rifle 9 years ago. He used 2 rounds, out of a box of 20, to sight his scope in. He told me that he just finished using that box of ammo 9 years later with 18 kills. He writes the dates, on the box, when and what he killed. That is pretty good use of a box of ammo.

I went to Sportsman's Wearhouse and looked at Winchester Deer Season X P in 308 caliber, 150 Gr bullet. That is what I want to feed my new Savage. It was priced 33.95 per box of 20. Traveled to Wal Mart and they had the same ammo 20.94. Looked and S G ammo, on line, and theirs was 18.95 per box with 12.00 shipping on 3 boxes of 20. Good ole Wally World! Hate to see it dry up.

I have reloaded in the past and still have a Lee Turret combo reloaded with a lot of dies, that is not set up right now. Yes one can save a little money if you just shoot a lot and reload a lot of practice ammo. I don't know if it would pay to purchase all the equipment from scratch and the components. I know it would not be worthwhile for those who only shoot 3 or 4 times per year. We reloaded to build better, more accurate ammo for our guns. Now-a-days you can purchase excellent factory loaded ammo. Those who reload must be real careful because one can make a mistake very easily. If a person is not detail oriented, they should stay away from reloading, IMO.

Evidently the doe that has lived in the woods, behind our home, is in season this morning. I have seen a small buck (tall spike) roaming the back yard for about a week now. This morning, we were sitting at the breakfast table and 2 young bucks (3 yr o), one a 7 point and the other a tall 8 pointer, was chasing the doe all around our yard. We have a 3 acre yard with woods behind the house. The doe still has last years fawns with her, but have not seen them this morning. I guess they have vacated the area for now. Guess we will have some little ones by spring. Told sweetie I was going to get my new Savage 308 out, and get me a buck. She vetoed that operation, "instantly". Well, I haven't sighted it in yet.

I have never made it to this new store (S W) here in the B'oro. Have plans to do it soon as I get over this bronchitis. Mailed in my 2, $75.00 rebates to Savage this afternoon. Each rifle had one. A healthy little chunk of change coming back.

If Wal Mart dries up on ammo, we will not have many sources locally. If we do it most times is much higher.

We have been ordering ammo from on line sources for a while now. Most times cheaper, even with shipping, and can just order about anything you want now a days.

Well, after a morning long outing we ended up purchasing 4 Rifles. The one I purchased was a Savage Axis XP bolt action in 308, and we got another for a grandson(11 Y O), a Savage Axis XP in 7MM 08. Another grandson (15) and his dad both purchased 243's. All have detachable magazines and Weaver 3x9 40 MM scopes on them. All have camo composite stocks. They are nice rifles for what they cost. Quality off assembly is fair, as two of the rifles has the scopes mounted crocked. Grandson 1 has already had his out, but not sighted in, yesterday afternoon. By the way both went hunting, yesterday afternoon, and one got a small buck also, but not with the 243 they just purchased. He said he needed to check the scope zero before he trusted the new rifle. Very Wise! We arose at 3:00 AM and was in Bass Pro parking lot by 4:30. Too our surprise, there were about 500 people already there. By the time the store opened (5:00 AM) the were about 750 people in line to get in the store. They had 110 of these rifles for sale. They were gone in 15 minutes. It took up until 11:00 AM to get all the paperwork complete and on our way home. We ended up purchasing the 4 rifles for 169.99 each. The Rifles were regularly 349.00 with a 75.00 markdown by the store. Also all of them had a 75.00 rebate from Savage. We were also able to purchase 2, 600.00 gift certificates for 540.00 each (60.00 savings), which we used to pay for the rifles before we left. That amounted to another 30.00 per rifle off. That is how we came out with he 170.00 cost + sales tax, for each of the rifles. Have plans to get them out and look them over soon. Will go sight them in and see how they shoot. All in all we had a great day, with 2 grandsons (who will never forget this day) and their fathers out for a large Black Friday shopping spree at the Bass Pro (Man's Store my granddaughter call it). Slept like a baby last night! What-A-Day! The Creedmoor's were gone in the first 5 minutes.

Ended up with 2 each. Tell more later. Had a blast, but it was an all day thing(4 AM-12Noon). Got to eat our big Thanksgiving meal tonight (Friday) here at "Reed Manor". Go to families house on Thanksgiving day. Post more tomorrow.

We have a house full of family, and a lot to be thankful for. Going to be a good day at Reed Manor. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Thanks for posting. Always good reading and reminder things can happen if we let our guards down and skip rules. Glad all went well in the aftermath. Had a friend who shot his foot, in his car, last year while trying to re-holster while siting in the driver seat, in front of a city business in his car with wife and family in the car with him. Things happen. Police got involved and he had big problems.

Starts with 30. Probably right Garufa, but have you ever pondered going down an unknown direction? For me that would be 6.5 Creedmoor. Don't know what I will do for sure, but plan to "do", L/w if possible. Does not seem to be a large difference between the Creedmoor and 308 with a slight edge to the 308. The Creedmoor sure is getting publicity for now, although it has been out for multi digit years, fell from grace, but recently found again with gusto. Is fun to consider. My deer hunter Grandson is saying Creedmoor all out! He has killed with 270 and 06 I gave him last year. I will need to see the selection and decide then. May just come home with the old tried and true 308 or 30 06 in the Savage Axis XP flavor. Friday(29) is D day for us.

I too have started downsizing. I am 71 and my health is getting worse. I want to give my guns to my grandchildren. I want to do it before I will need to run them through a nix system. Have already given away several and have several more to give. I sure have enjoyed collecting them over the last 50 years. Hard to see my babies leave, but the passage of time is saying let them go. Will keep enough to protect my sweetie and me. Kinda sad in a way.

My grandson, Son In Law and I are bound for Bass Pro on Friday morning and both of us want the Savage Axis. We will see how we come out. Hope they got a bunch. I have decided on the 6.5 Creedmoor, or 308. They said they had 8 calibers in the add. Which caliber would you get if you were in the market? I am kind of a 30 06 man at heart, and this will be a stretch for me.

I have my scoped Marlin bolt action 22 mag sighted in at 75 yards. I have had it for 25 years and I purchased it at Wal Mart for $139.00. I hunted varmints with it on my farm. At that distance I can shoot less than 1" groups of 5 any day of the week. Of course that is off sandbags now, because at my age with my eyes, I can not shoot as well as the rifle can off hand, any longer. Don't own a lever gun in 22 mag but do own one in 38Spl/357 Mag. It is my families favorite rifle and every thanksgiving we get it out and burn a couple hundred rounds of 38Spl. I agree with the others, if you are only shooting paper go with the 22LR. Big difference in cost. My Marlin Magnum is pretty much a safe queen now, but I would not sell it. I have a scoped Marlin mdl 60 I squirrel hunt with in 22 LR. Edited to add; I am going to purchase a Caldwell Led Sled to use while sighting in on my new shooting range. Hope to be using it for my new Savage Axis 6.5 Creedmoor. Are you listening Santa???

I tend to agree with you Dave, but it is textbook on how NOT to handle oneself in an interrogation, for sure. The article the guy wrote is informative also.

This is the Police interrogation of the guy in Florida that shot the man, who shoved him down at his local convince store and was just sentenced to prison. It is a somewhat long watch, but worth your time to educate yourself on how not to send yourself to prison with diarrhea of the mouth before investigators. Why trainers tell everyone what to say after a self defense act that one may be forced into. Also a good article surrounding the event. This is a good site if you want to keep it. IMO, this guy was on shaky ground, from the get go, but you decide. He sure did a lot of harm to himself by talking without a lawyer present. http://modernserviceweapons.com/

I gave my bedside 357 mag to my grandson last year. I got my SW 629 out and ordered some 44 spl ammo for it (200 gr hp in several flavors. Settled on Speer G D HP). So after some practice with the 44 spl ammo it is now my new bedside gun. Lots of difference from the magnum ammo. A lot more manageable for an old Gezer. Now the 44 is not a safe queen any longer. Enjoy yours.

Went to Specialty Arms yesterday. Guns were higher than the last time I was there. I guess everything continues to go up. They did have some good deals.

Bernie is going to take care of all of this. Medicare for everyone, or in other words Socialized Medicine. I am sure he is going to give us this when he becomes president. The reason he can give us this, at no cost is, you will die before you can get the medical attention you need, thereby no need for money to pay for the medical care. Simple ain't it? Ah! Socialized Medical Care!

I purchase ammo from S G all the time. Easy to work with and timely delivery. One must take in delivery cost because it adds to the bottom line. I purchased 9 MM practice ammo form Wal Mart cheaper than S G had it after you add the shipping. Wal Mart has had some good sales on ammo, lately, because they are closing out and not going to be selling ammo or guns in the future. Got my 9mm practice ammo for 17.00 per hundred for Winchester ammo.

Specialty Arms II, in Lavergne TN, is having a Customer Appreciation Sale starting 25-27 of Nov. In the past they have had some real good prices on their guns. It is a big deal if you have never been there during one of these sales. They usually have factory reps on board and the place is really crowded. I hope to go today(Friday 22) and view the regular prices and then go back for the sale. Their prices are usually better than most places I go to even without the sale. Also just got a sales paper from Bass Pro Shop and they are having a big 5 day sale on several guns and other things. They have a Savage Axi XP rifle, in 8 calibers, at a bargain after a 75.00 mail in rebate. It is on a 6 hour only sale on 29 from 5 AM to 11AM. I don't work for either of these places. Check them out!

Guess this is my lucky day. I just received a Black Friday sale paper from, Bass Pro, which has a Savage Axis X P Bolt action rifle package with a factory mounted, and bore sighted Weaver 3-9x40 rifle scope on it. It is priced, after a 75.00 rebate for 199.97. It comes in 8 calibers. Sounds interesting. Do any of you know anything about the Savage Axis X P rifles?