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Forgot to add, to my previous post, my son-in-law and I was almost robbed in Montgomery Alabama a few years back. His transmission went out of his car, as we had traveled to visit family in Alabama, and stranded him on the side of the road in Montgomery. He had it towed to a Mr Transmission place. They called him the next morning and told him it was going to cost 3500. to repair his tranny and I knew they were ripping him off. I took him to Montgomery and he wanted me to take him to a phone booth to call a mechanic back home in TN, to see if they were overcharging him. We went down I 65 and got off at a gas station on the side of the interstate and parked by a drive up phone booth on the corner of a Race Track stop and go parking lot. I exited the car and was standing facing my car leaning on the top, and the station was to my back. Suddenly I smelled liquor, and turned to see a man had walked up behind me and was drunk, at 10:00 in the morning. He demanded my money. I turned to face him and I could see the grip of a revolver in his front pocket which he had not pulled yet. I glanced at the station and all the people were looking in our direction and doing nothing. My gut instantly told me we were in a bad situation. This time, I was not ready as my revolver was under the front seat of my car and I was out of the car. I had some quarters in my pocket, for the phone call, so I pulled them out and dropped several on the ground. We were on a slight hill and the quarters started rolling down the hill past the drunk. The thug bent to pick them up and when he too his eye off us I jumped in the car and exited the scene. My SNL noticed what was happening and he was already on the way to get in the car and we pulled away as fast as we could. Turned out we stopped in a very bad place in Montgomery and the Race Track was located in the middle of the largest housing project in Montgomery Alabama. Our kin folks, that we were visiting, later told us they have killings in that project almost nightly. Went back to the Mr Transmission, I was livid, walked in and told the manager that I believed he was ripping my SIL off, and if he could not be reasonable we would call a tow truck, and haul the Camaro away, then pay him for the estimate. He mumbled some words, cussed a little then said they could repair it for $1200, with used parts, which was a lie, but it was reasonable when this happened several years ago. SNL told him to do the repairs and we left. This, and the two incidents I posted in the previous post, is the only 3 times where I had ever needed a gun in my life of 72 years. All three times I was able to get out of my situations. Hope I never have another incident. Tom Givens is spot on in his interview.
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Not going to think about my check until it is in my Bank account.
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Coronavirus: The cure can’t be worse than the problem!
pop pop replied to DaveTN's topic in General Chat
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I had a man follow one of my young daughters home, at midnight, after she got off work at a local Sonic drive in. He was on our front porch looking in a window and turned over a potted plant waking the whole house. Scared the begebies our of my family. I also had a bad trip to our mail box, several years ago after I retired. I was glad I was armed, and if the guys had come a little closer the gun would have come out. I was glad it didn't. I hardened entrance to our home, lit up the outside, and purchased a dog. Also carry all the time even here at home. One just never knows.
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The 0 6 will take anything in the lower 48 except for grizzlies, although they have been taken with them also. It is my favorite caliber. Are they the best, ????? Matter of opinion. Your rifle is a good choice for deer hunting. I had a Weatherby Vanguard , in 30 06, and gave it to my grandson 2 year ago for Christmas. He took 2 with it last fall. I am left with a 7MM 08, and a 308 both Savages. Going to give another grandson the 308 this year. He is 12 and hunts with his dad. I figure he will be able to find the 308 ammo easier and it will be more affordable for a kid.
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My daughter just had me to order her a Belly Band, for her Ruger LCR ,from Cross Breed holsters. She carries for 2 legged predator's. She visits a lot of off road trailheads and sometimes there are only 2 or 3 women. They rode in Franklin TN yesterday in the park there. She has her HCP and does not care to open carry. We will see how that works for horseback riding.
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This is going to make T P hoarders out of many people.
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People are panicking around here. You can not purchase many groceries as the stores have been cleaned out. I went to the local large super market, this afternoon, and I have never see it like that before. I had to stand in line for 30 minutes just to check out. Many of the shelves were empty. No eggs, meat, or any paper products. Bread and water racks empty. My daughter went to Sams, this afternoon and said ther was a line in the parking lot trying to get into the store. The clerk, at Kroger, said it has been like this for the last 2 days. We now have a couple cases of the virus in our local county. The clerk told me they were closing at 12 midnight, just so they could restock the shelves. They normally are open 24 hrs. They had every register open and all the self checkouts have lines 10 to 15 people deep. One guy in line told me his wife told him to get groceries. He said I thought what groceries, she never cooks, and we eat out all the time. Milinials!!!! Makes me wonder if they can cook, or feed themselves. We may be eating old TOM Turkey, that has shown up in our yard, if this gets worse. I most times keep about a months supply of food on hand at all times , except for perishables. I don't like to go grocery shopping so I purchase a large quantity when I go. Hope you guys are not experiancing this in your area.
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I have a Henry Golden Boy in 38Spl/357Mag. I like all the Henrys. congrats and H F.
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You tell him E 4. Mt Juliet will know what you are saying, one of these days.
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Daylight broke this morning to reveal about 30 turkey hens and one old tom strutting in my front yard. My wife opened the blinds and "Walla" "old tom" was just outside her window with his tail feathers in full bloom. Guess another turkey season is not far off. All I can say is, "Come On Spring." Weather man said 70 here next week, so it will be camping next week for us. Number one grandson is looking forward to our trip to Pigeon Forge on the 20th. Cody has Downs and he spends a lot of time with us because both his parents work. He is a great travel partner. Gatlinburg, Great Smokey Mountains Nat Park, here we come, L/w. Got to get the truck fueled, and the "Wildcat"(5th Wheel RV) cleaned, stocked, fluffed, and ready to roll. Cody did not get to see the new Pirates show, last fall when we were up there, so he informed his Mimi he is looking forward to viewing that when we go next week.
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Thanks for the responses. My grandson and daughter left and we sit down and she read the article. In the story the lady brought her J frame to the husband, and he fired it, from the hip, and hit the perp in the heart and forearm, 2 out of the 5 times as they fought hand to hand. I wanted my wife to realize thugs don't always stop after being shot, and that the j frame ran dry, and she had to go retrieve another gun for her husband, which the lady was forced to use to shoot the perp in the neck, paralyzing the perp, who shortly passed away from the previously administered heart shot, so the med examiner ascertained. My wife has never witnessed a real life/death fight and I wanted to expose her to a real one, at least in print. We sit and discussed what happened to the Cokers, and talked about what we should do if involved with a serious situation ourselves. No two fights are the same, and I know that, but if one is never exposed to what might happen, how are they going to react. My wife looked intently at the response of the victims wife, and how she responded in a stressful situation even though seriously injured. Call it what you may, how else is an old codger like myself going to make her understand how serious a fight for one's life is without some kind of example and discussions about what others did? I wish you guys could read the story and you could see how one might have a profitable discussion with their wife. You old coppers, here, lived these stories. My wife has not, so I wanted to expose her to it, so if she ever needs to respond, she could at least have some Idea of how someone else did it and survived, however with serious life long injury aftermath. In the article, after the 5 shot J frame run dry, the lady retrieved another revolver, her husbands bedside gun, and had to use it herself, from a short distance, as the husband and perp were entangled, still fighting, on the floor. The fight started out 3 against one, but 2 fled when the guns came out and the fight started, and the husband ended up fighting one on one with a 23 year old gang member, x con, against a 65 year old, but the old guy had a good accounting for himself. The wife was injured seriously early in the fight as the perp picked her up and slammed he to the floor and messes both legs up seriously. My wife learned from our discussion, and sees why I wanted her to read and discuss this article. All in all it was a successful teaching afternoon. Yesterday, I had to dispatch a skunk, in my back yard, at 3 in the afternoon, in bright sunshine. We have had 3 rabied skunks here previously, and I would bet this guy was also, because he was out in broad daylight. She asked me, this afternoon, to teach her how to use the 22 rifle, that I shot the skunk with, out my back door. She is getting it, a little more, as we go along. It is my fear she will be alone sooner or later because my health is not good. I desperately want her to know how to protect herself if I am not around. Greyfox, she carries now and has for 8 years. I think she will use self defense if forced too. I want to use this magazine article, and everything in my power to help make her understand what one must do to survive a brutal attack, as much as I can. I don't want her afraid to sleep at night, like I have seen some other widows do, if left alone later in life. I pray for the best, but try to prepare her for the worst. That is my goal, and I believe I have been able to kick that can down the road a little further. She is a good shot with her revolvers, on the range, but? This attempt of training focused mostly on mindset here and making her familiar with a real life and death struggle, of this husband and wife, that the article tells about. I am, at her request, going to introduce pistol shooting to her, and also the 22 rifle, soon so she can take advantage of both. It is good for her to know all 3 systems, IMO. Then she has choice. I have both pistols, revolvers, and rifles in the house. After concluding reading the article herself, she told me, "Man, that was brutal!!" Bingo! Right! Exactly! and Yes, that is exactly what I wanted her to read about and realize. Most all life and death battles are brutal, I am sure you all will agree. We also discussed the aftermath...…...sometimes/most times Brutal also. Both the participants, who waged this battle for life, in Jacksonville, have life altering injuries that will stay with them for the remainder of their lives, along with the fact of dealing with the emotional fact of taking of another's life. Their 11 year old grandson also has emotional scars he is dealing with as he was in a bed room sleeping, while spending the night with grandparents. He arose to hearing his grandmother screaming for him to stay in the room, and then heard the whole battle play out. So yes, there are life long emotional scars that go along with the brutality of a life and death experience. My goal was to prepare my wife for the aftermath. Next we will work on the legal aftermath, at another more teachable time. Edited to add; I don't know why this computer is printing this in different colors. That was not my intent, but I must have hit something I shouldn't have to cause this. Grayfox, my wife and I just celebrated 50 years of marriage.
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My intent was for Massad's article to show her what they (the Cokers) did in that situation, during their home invasion, and then for us to discuss the article afterwards and learn form their experience. Perhaps train was a bad word for here.
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How many of you have problems getting your wife to train for a bad day? I don't do this often but my sweetie just doesn't want to think about such things. I will start this our with the fact I like to read gun Magazines. I sometimes use Massad Ayoob's articles to educate myself. In the May/June issue of American Handgunner, which I just received today, has articles in "The Ayoob Files," Titled Home Invasion: The Coker Family Incident. This event happened in Jacksonville Florida, in a "nice" neighborhood, in 2014. At 6:20 the next morning the Coker family underwent a life and death struggle with 3 Jacksonville Gang members, of "The Cutthroat Committee" which the gang called themselves. Only one ended up waging the deadly battle, in the home invasion. The 2 others fled the scene after the battle started. This grandfather(asleep in is room), and awaken grandmother, who had a young grandson spending the night and was asleep in a bedroom, waged the battle for their lives that early morning of the 15th. After finishing reading the article I told my sweetie I wanted her to read and discuss the article with me. She shrugged her shoulders and said she didn't want too, left the den and went to take her morning shower. I don't ask her to do this often, maybe a couple times per year, but I always get the same response. By the way our grandson spent the night with us last evening as well. I hope you guys have a better time getting your wives involved. This article was an all out battle both the man and women fought together to defeat a 20'ish Y O intruder, evidently, intent on killing them both. At this moment my grandson and her are preparing meatloaf dinner, for us and his mom who will pick grandboy up at 1:30. After sweetie finishes her morning of grand motherhood, I intend to get her to read this article and do some teaching with her. One thing I do know, the perp in the article kicked in the door on the Coker's home, which they are not going to be able to do on our home, because I hardened the entry doors on our house before hand. The Coker's did that after their battle. Can someone kick your door in, and gain entry to your home? By the way Mr Coker was slow to the battle also. He answered the screams from his wife, with nothing in his hand. My plan is her and I are going to do some serious, together training in the next few weeks so we can be on the same page if this ever happens to us. My wife has her own guns,(revolvers) and can fire them well, but I want her to get familiar with my guns, and where they are, if she needs them in an emergency. The Coker's were plagued with a 5 shot snubbie that never solved their immediate pressing problem. My wife has an LCR 38spl, and a Lady Smith mdl 65 loaded with Cor Bon DPX 38 spl for her house gun. I also want her to see the problems the Coker's had with the limited 5 shot snubbie, and want to impress her to grab the 40 cal pistol by my bed with 14 rounds in it, and show her why it is a better choice in this situation the Coker's faced because of the 40 ammo compacity if we are ever forced to defend ourselves. Guys, if you don't tell them, then they don't know, RIGHT? I will post how our afternoon goes. Wish me luck!
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I have one of the older Ruger 40 caliber carbines. It is stock and does not have all the furniture these have. I purchased it from a Sherriff deputy who had a massive heart attack, then had to sell it. Back then the Rutherford Sherriff Dept carried these and Ruger 40 caliber pistols. Also when they first came out they were for law enforcement only, so I was told. I have had the one I got for 20 years or so. I traded a Ruger Camp Carbine 9 MM for this one because I wanted more power also, and yes, they are a hoot to shoot but ammo is expensive if you don't reload. I have it loaded with an extra magazine and ready to go if I should need it in a hurry and I can get to it. I also have a Ruger Mini 14, and Mossberg 12 Ga, at the ready. I feel the Ga is number 1 choice for serious in house work should I be forced to use it. I had a 20 Ga but gave it to my grandson to hunt with. It had both an 18 1/2" and 24" brl.
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Tn allowing residents to carry guns without permits new bill
pop pop replied to ted's topic in General Chat
Turns out this bill is NOT a permit less concealed carry legislation bill. It is another bill just to increase penalties for gun crimes, "mostly", as it is written now. Another smoke and mirrors bill skirting the real issue of one odes not need a permit to carry a concealed firearm in TN. This bill is no such bill. -
Thanks for the birthday wishes, and I will report I had a great party yesterday. I got enough money to be able to purchase another gun, if I want one. Them kids and my sweetie knows my love language. I know it will not be a Glock 44, because I don't like the light plastic, and it just does not feel like a real gun in my hands. YMMV and that is OK. Edited to add; My thoughts are on a SW Mdl 60 3" always wanted one, a Mdl 686 plus 3", or a SW 8 shot revolver, don't know the model number on this one. The 8 shot 357 mag would be for a house gun, which I got my 629 loaded with 44Spl for that role now. That "kinda" is my bucket list today. Do I need it, NO. Do I want it, well, YES. My 72nd year is looking fine!!!L/w We have a guy that came forward, in our church, that is divorced, lonely, living alone, has teen children problems, and really discouraged and struggling with health issues at this time(he hopes to return to work on Monday). He asked the church to pray for him. My sweetie and I have invited him to our home, on Friday evening, for a meal and talks, and he accepted our invitation last night. Our hope is to encourage him on his way. He is middle-aged and, we discovered, he is our close by neighbor. Lives less than a mile from "Reed Manor" (long story but what we call our home HA HA). Those who are praying people here, say a prayer we can encourage him. Peace is hard at times, for all of us.
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I have a Taurus K frame size 22 Mag pistol with a 3" brl 8 shot. It is SS and I really like it although the 22 Mag ammo is pricy to shoot it very much. I found using CCI ammo, and firing it 20' from a paper target, the 3" brl was not long enough to burn all the powder. I was getting unburned powder residue perforating my target. My son-in-law found some Speer 22 Mag ammo in the Short Barrell configuration and it fixed the problem of not burning all the powder in the short 3" brl. Yours looks to be a 4' or 5" brl. Just maybe your brl is long enough to burn all the powder. Just thought I would let you know what a shorter brl has a tendency to do. If you are not burning all the powder one does not get the maximum performance out of the ammo load.
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Also on this day in history, 03 04 1948, I was born. "IT'S MY HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" 72 today. Didn't believe I would make it this far. The Bible says mans' life consist of 3 score and 10 years(70), and if blessed 4 score (80) (Psalms 90:10). I am on the way to 4 score L/w. If I make it to 4 score, (80) then, afterwards, I will be on bonus time. Just celebrated 50 years to the same wonderful lady (My Laddie Kay). "I've had a good life with her and our 4 daughters." However, the most important thing is, I have made preparations for the next life, in heaven, with God through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. Nothing trumps this! Have "YOU" made your peace with Jesus?????? I hope so....Would like to meet you up there. I like Uncle Buck.
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They are reporting the tornado, that hit Nashville, was a E F 3 with winds of 155 to 165 mph. Also channel 4 says 22 dead.
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Praying for all involved. We were spared here in Rutherford County(Lascassas) this time, as far as I know.
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The SW 317-3 I have is an Air Lite, 8 shot revolver with a 3" brl and target sights with a green light gathering Hi Viz front sight on it. It is a great revolver to start out new shooters with. I have put 1,000s of rounds through the one I have had for years. I purchased it used from a pawn shop so they are rugged IMO. I have no idea how many rounds were fired in the revolver before I acquired it. I cleaned and inspected the brl, and frame, for cracks, and found it to be in great shape. I always start new shooters on the 317 then go to my 22 Lr Sig Mosquito pistol. Most like the Sig but when we move up to 380, and above in caliber, their hand strength sometimes limits how big of a caliber they can rack the slide on. I mostly have taught ladies to shoot, and I have had one lady who has stuck with a 22 revolver. I will say that a few years ago a close by neighbor had 2 night time (2AM) prowlers, on her front porch, and they were trying to gain entry to her house, but she had a good locked storm door that they could not get opened. She told she was inside, with no kind of weapon, and could listen t their conversation. She said one told the other, "I know that old lady is in there and she just got her medicine and check." Told the Deputy they shook the storm door several times and even walked to the back door and tried. She was 80 Y O, and could you just imagine the fear she must have been going through. She had called 911 and it was 20 minutes before a deputy arrived. She was lucky she had good doors and they didn't pursue the forced entry any further. I would think that even a 22 LR pistol would have been a good friend to this lady in that situation, if she could use it. She lived in a large subdivision with 90 houses close by and around her. Shame on her neighbors for not helping her, sooner, to let her know they would come to her if she needed them. We don't talk to our neighbors any more and that is sad. ReeferMac, I say, without a doubt, allow your misses to use the 22, if that is all she can handle. If a situation like this one I told you about above, arises, you can have a good 38 spl revolver that operates like the 22 revolver she has, or 9 MM pistol that is like the 22 pistol she chooses. She could go to the larger caliber, in an emergency, and be familiar with knowledge of how it fires, in times of emergency. Of course if she is out in the public, then she will need to rely on the 22 she has with her, if she conceal carries. I am happy to say my wife does carry. She carries a Ruger LCR in 38 Spl and her house gun is a SW Lady Smith mdl 65, in 38 Spl or 357 mag. She carries the same ammo in both, Cor Bon DPX in 38Spl. Guys, if you have close by widow neighbors, who are living alone, make friends with them and give them your contact information in case they ever need it in an emergency. By the time I heard about this incident, from her next door neighbor, she had left the house, never to return.
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Let it go! Big mistake, open carry.... You are lucky manchuck.
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If a 22 is all she can carry, let her go for it.