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I prefer center hold also. Just front sight blade for close and if in a hurry.

I carry a 38 spl and 357 most times. If I IWB carry it is an MP 9MM C 2.0. My primary is a 2" 357, 7 shot revolver. Most shootings are 3 rounds or less, if average. Have no problem feeling I am not prepared if forced into a confrontation. When I am on my daughters horse farm, located in Eagleville TN, I carry the 38 with snake shot. I am doing a lot of woods and brush removal right now. Glad snakes are, for the most part, asleep. Got a Hunt X hunting ape on my phone and it is great for finding property lines in wooded areas. We are marking and cutting horse trails on 90 acers. Just finished marking 61 acers yesterday and still have 28 acers left to mark. It is very thick with underbrush and trees. Want to get it marked before snakes come out. I always take snake medicine (38 Spl) with me even now. Just never know. The 38 Spl has been doing self defense duty, mostly successfully, for years. I have learned it isn't the arrow, as much as it is the Indian, that brings a satisfactory conclusion to deadly threats. One must be able to put them where they need to be for a satisfactory conclusion. At soon to be 74 (2 weeks) my want to ability is slowly waning. I am needing to practice more and more, but pray often I will never be forced to call on my waning skills. My mother used a pre model, SW model 10 4" 38Spl revolver, when I was 4(1952), that had a lifelong effect on my life. You younger "whipper snappers", enjoy your youthful abilities. Agent Orange, and age has had a detrimental effect on my later years, however I have found "Jesus Christ" so I got the dying taken care of. Listen up guys! IMO, it ain't bull hocky. Peace with death in life, belief in Jesus Christ is the answer. Bible says He is the only way, and "I believe it."

This info has been printed in numerous ways. You may be aware of its content. Rangemaster School, located in Memphis, was sold by Tom, and he is semi-retired now and living in Florida. Good info to consider. I am reading his new book "Concealed carry class" The A B Cs of S D. Tom Givens (Rangemaster, Memphis) has gleaned some informative statistics from the gunfights in which his students have been involved. I won't try to rewrite Givens' articles here, but his numbers are striking. He is aware of 68 shooting incidents involving his students: 65 wins; 3 losses. ("Forfeits" as Givens calls them; those killed were unarmed when they were murdered.) Some of the "winners" were wounded. Most involved armed robbery attempts. Only 10% occurred in or around the person's home. 90% were "out and about" - workplace, parking lots, convenience stores, carjackings, etc. 60 shootings were at 3-7 yards: most at 3-5 yards. Only 2 were at contact distance. Three were at longer distances: 15, 17, and 22 yards. All but two of the survivors reported that they had brought their guns up to eye level, as trained, and hit their assailants. The other two would be the ones forced to resort to contact shots. Most of the confrontations occurred in reduced light. None, however, involved the use of a flashlight or gun mounted light. There was sufficient ambient light to identify and defeat the threats. Takeaway: Civilian defensive shootings are significantly different from law enforcement or military gunfights. The assailant(s) must approach the citizen in order to initiate the attack. This results in short, fast, close encounters, remarkably consistent in their nature. Not all of Givens' 65 students escaped unscathed, but they all prevailed. The only ones killed were the other three who were unarmed.

Sorry for your great loss. Praying for you this morning.

I received my Winchester Defended 147 Gr + P Bonded 9 MM yesterday. Not a bad wait time from Lucky Gunner Ammo. Ordered it Sunday and comes on Tuesday (3 day delivery). Big Brown Truck moved it well. The price 26.00 for Bx of 20 was not outrageous for self defense ammo, IMO. Looking for some warm weather to test it in water jugs.

I really have mixed feelings because this ended bad. I say again, "I am for law and order." Do you think the perp didn't realize what would happen if he did pull that shiny pipe? The guy had his hand in his pocket and came out with a shiny round pipe of some sort, and was in a shooting stance. We have been having, fights, holdups, and muggings at our local grocery store, during daylight, and for sure at night. Most on here conceal carry, I assume. Some go to the store. What are you going to do if you face a similar situation in the Kroger parking lot tomorrow(Guy acts threatening and pulls a long shiny pipe on You)? "All" trainers will tell you, "hesitation will get you killed." I told my students that very thing, When I taught classes. Defiantly not an easy situation guys. I am not going to second guess.

Most of these guys could be contributing members of society if the would stay on their meds. But they will not. Turns out this guy moved to Nashville, a few years back to start new, and has been in trouble with drugs, drinking, along with mental illness. He was not an alter boy by any means. Still tragic.

IMO, Metro will pay her in the end. Whether she deserves it or not, who knows. Heard on the news she had called Metro, that morning, because he was having an episode at her home. News, very often, is not factual. Guys we don't know the true details of this, and probably never will. They guy had a box cutter, so the police practice the "Tuller Drill" for their own safety. The drill, "one can travel 21 ft before you can complete a draw and protect yourself." So they had distance from an armed mentally ill person which was the proper thing to do. Right or wrong way to handle that situation, who knows? I heard the story on National News a couple days ago. They showed the standoff footage of course. Another black eye for the cops, which IMO, they do not deserve. I am for "law and order" guys. This is not the prevailing opinion most times now of days. Police have their hands tied now. Danged, if they do, danged if they don't. The wife wanted the Police to keep the guy away from her, because she admitted she called them on several occasions, but "now" didn't want him killed!!!!!! There in lies the "dilemma!" Deadly force will "sometimes" bring deadly force situations, "Worst case scenario." Feel sorry for his parents.

Got some 147 gr + P Winchester Defender Bonded H P 9 MM on the way. Purchased it from Lucky Gunner Ammo for 26.00 per 20 round box plus tax and freight. That is a good price for S D ammo if you need some guys. Been wanting to test fire these heavier bullets in my MP's. Got several empty milk jugs to test shoot into and see penetration test with several flavors of ammo now. Waiting for warmer weather. Wont be able to do it this week because I need to go work on my daughter's horse farm for the 3 warm days coming up.

I have not shot any of the Hornady, but have plans to ring out the M P with it. I really want some 147 gr + P and found some today on the internet. Will order some of that to test out also on Monday.

Mentally Ill were turned out, years ago in TN, when they closed all the State Run facilities. They did that because of all the law suites which took 20 years to settle all of them. I think all the states did the same, so there are few facilities to house them. So now the Police are faced with dealing with them on the streets, basically. Dealing with the mentally ill is not an easy thing to do.

I am sure some have seen the Metro Nashville released Police body cam film of the mentally Ill guy shot on the interstate this week. What do you guys think about the Police problem with dealing with the Mentally ill, and how best to handle it. Looks to me like society is going to demand for the Police to have some new training, and a new policy on how to handle these cases. IMO, they are in a catch 22 situation (in trouble either way they go) with their present policy when dealing with this problem connected to the mentally ill situation.

Went to Academy yesterday and they had a fair selection of different caliber ammo. I purchased 100 rounds of Hornaday Critical Duty 9 MM Luger + P 135 gr FlexLock ammo for my EDC SW MP 9MM pistol. Never fired any of this ammo before so wanted to try it. Also want to try some 147 gr + P when I can find it. Been looking for 6 months. I tend to like heavier bullets in + P configuration. The Hornady was 32.95 + tax for a box of 25. Been watching SG for a long time and they are showing a lot of practice ammo with a little S D ammo thrown in. I don't enjoy paying these large prices. Edited to add; No 38 Spl and 1 SD 357 Mag ammo. The 38 Spl seems to be hard to come by.

They were not using DNA testing 18 years ago were they?

Son-In-Law face-timed me last evening wanting to know how to properly clean his Ruger 10 22, and the Mossberg 20 ga after they shot them. Said it was the first time he ever cleaned a firearm. He had purchased a combination cleaning kit. I talked him through it and we got them cleaned and oiled. Hope to go visit them next month and will go purchase them my cleaning stuff, because I like copper brushes soaked in Hoppe's #9 bore cleaner, first through the barrels, and gun oil instead of the red combo gunk he had in his kit. He also needs some patches because one does not spare them when cleaning. His kit only had 5 shotgun patches and 10 rifle/pistol patches. Old school Hoppes' can't be beat, IMO, and a good wipe down on the gun metal surfaces with the oil. I also like to clean and lube all moving parts and lightly oil them. Love the smell of the Hoppe's although they have tamed it somewhat in new stuff. SIL and daughter lives in the Charleston S Carolina area and close to the beach. Salt air is hard on guns. I told him we will run a patch through all his guns and reoil them because of the salt air. At times your windshield will have a white film from the air down there, so salt is a problem with his guns. I am going to have grandson and granddaughter to help me when I go through yearly cleaning his gun collection because they need to know how to properly clean their guns. I just hope they can get to keep them in their lifetime. I also want to inspect the guns to make sure yearly cleaning will preserve them in the salty air conditions. I never personally took care of guns there. Their dad is pretty sold on keeping the collection in good shape, which I am totally glad. He really takes excellent care of his boat which is a job when putting it in salt water like they do. One wants care taken with such gifts which one passes on the the next generation so I figured I need to teach them good care skills. "Train them in the ways they shall go." What parents and grandparents need to do, IS IT NOT?

I have 2 mdl 617, 357/38 Spl Mag, and 1 817 38 Spl, 7 shot Taurus snubbies. They are a K frame size but are 7 shooters. They are my EDC. Carry Cor Bon DPX in all of them. IMO, great revolvers. Some people had problems with their new ones locking up after they got warm. Some of the early revolvers had problem, but the later models Taurus fixed that problem. They were built a little too tight to stat with. I have had no problems with my 3 and I have fired thousands of rounds through them. Getting ready to take them all down and thoroughly clean them. I would recommend them with no reservations if you want a good round gun. All of my 3 have wonderful triggers and finish. One, the 38 Spl, is an ultra light model. Have it in my pocket as we speak.

E4 No More, thanks for your service. Hope healing is in your future. No shame in seeking help. I have agent orange from my time in Vietnam. Go to the Alvin York V A Hosp myself.

My grandson called me tonight and told me he and his sister went hunting today with a school mate. They harvested a squirrel and a dove. They are cleaning them and his mother is going to cook them for the kids and his friend. He said his friend goes to school with him and his father has a farm in the Charleston S Carolina area. I gave Parker a Mossberg 20 Ga pump and Chloe a Ruger10 22 rifle. Parker is 13 and his sister is 11, but very small. She can out shoot Parker. His friend could not believe the guns Parker has which I gave him and his sister. Son-in-law said the friend is eat up with hunting and fishing so it is my hope Parker and Chloe will gain a greater appreciation for the shooting and hunting thing. Their dads took them out today and spent 6 hours out with them. Parker's dad said ammo was really expensive. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT! Maybe SIL will appreciate what I gave them last year. I have another load of guns I am going to take to them next month. Giving my guns away, to my grandchildren, before I pass on.

Don't go to stupid places, hang out with stupid people, or do stupid things. Someone said that and I don't remember who. Sounds pretty good to me.

He once was a sort of "King Maker." If he played your records you had a strong chance making it in the Older Country scene. The Everly Brothers were one of his best recipients. Pop Everly, their dad, was on Ralph's show early in their development into early super stars they became.

Ground finally white in Lascassas(2:20). Have about 2" on the grass, but nothing on the roads yet. Pretty to look at.

Nothing but rain in Lascassas right now (8:51). Temp is 35.

Taurus 38/357 Mag 2" 7 shot Revolver. I don't leave home without it. Matter of fact, I don't leave the bedroom without it in my pocket. If I carry IWB, the 357 is in a pocket with an additional 15 shot S W MP 9 C 2.0 or an EZ, both in 9 MM. The rest of them are safe queens. Not paranoid, just trying to be prepared if forced into a defensive situation.

Just having a gun will not most likely not stop these people. You must be willing to use it, then be able to live with the aftermath. I sure would hate to shoot one of these people, because that is not my goal every morning when I get up but hope I will not allow me my family or myself to be pistol whipped. By the way, I will not be going to Edgehill today.

I have a Cannon 42 gun safe I purchased form TSC 15 years ago. It got full, I got old, so instead of purchasing another safe I am giving my guns to my grandchildren before I pass away. That way my wife will not be forced to fool with that if I pass before she does. My Cannon Big Boy has served me well.