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have the M&P 15-22. it is a terrific gun. not sure however that it will outshoot your 1inch at 60 yds. that sounds damn pretty good or a CMMG conversion! at any rate, the Colt Umerex sucks. The S&W is a solid steel Thompson Center match barrel. (you want the threaded one). upper/lower and rails are polymer. the gun weights about 5-6 lbs. the stock can be upgraded to whatever you choose, just slide the new one of your choice on. The FCG is standard AR, and you can drop any standard AR group in it, i put the RR NM 2 stage in mine, and it's sweetness. I also find it to be very reliable assuming your ammo is any good. It'll shoot everything i put in it, the exception is some of the bulk ammo (550 rd box) that give me a failure to fire about every 10 rds, this is the ammo not the gun. I have hard primer hits on every one and ran them again and still no fire). The quality of the gun is excellent. the mags are well made and a breaze to load. If you need a dedicated gun, this is a good choice. the upper will not work on your any AR15 lower except for the S&W AR 15-22. If you want a dedicated upper, agree w/ above, the Tac Sol is strong. don't know about accuracy, but have run one and like it very much. I went with the 15-22 because the manual of arms is the same as my duty rifle and it will accept the same FCG as my duty rifle. The only notable difference is the weight and also, the charging handle has a slightly shorter "pull" then on my duty rifle. bottom line for me was that it works works and i can train my kids with it while we are on the range together. Two guns. and i've seen this gun for less than $400. I think GT Distributors has them for way cheep. Curious what type off ammo you are shooting through your CMMG, what your barrel length and twist are. pretty impressed 1inch at 60yds. also, any special cleanup needed following CMMG runs? didn't know i the gas tube had to be blown out w/ a mag of 5.56 or any other special tricks?? thanks and good luck!

try it. in a dynamic shoot, like 3 gun or house/street clearing, you can drive the gun to your target faster... it feels odd at first, but it seems to work. The new magpul AFG gives you a solid index point so you have very consistent holds every time... AFG

"On Target" sounds like a great group!!!! i'll start trying to use them!

You are correct Sir. thank you for pointing out my oversight. I went back and did more study... When the original event occured in March 2009, GA arms posted a letter on their website indicating they had layed off employees. All sales of 9mm, 5.56 and .308 were stopped. I know this because i tried to purchase. I don't know the number if any who 's jobs were affected. that said, the attempt to demil and destroy brass was real and brass sales were stopped, even if for a short time. and not surprising, it happened again just a few short weeks ago. Thanks again OhShoot.

for those of you who weren't aware, several weeks ago, there was another attempt to scrap and destroy once fired military brass. The last time this happened in 2009, companies like Georgia Arms and others who depend on this supply of brass had major layoffs and the impact on the shooting community was significant with serious and long term implications. Many of us, myself included immediately contacted our elected officials with outrage and enouragement to stop this wasteful and unlawful act. As you may or may not know, attempts by any US contractor to destroy military brass was unlawful. (regardless of their agenda) Recently, this most recent attempt was quickly addressed and headway was made on behalf of the shooting community. Please read the following link: NRA-ILA :: Progress Made On Military Once-Fired Brass Issue Please take the time to contact your elected representative, in particular the two noted in this story and thank them for their efforts to see that the law is upheld. This fight will come again... and it is but only one small step in the effort to control guns. It is obvious to the socialists in charge that taking away firearms will be very tough. Hence, diminishing the supply of ammunition, controlling it (microstamping and all that it entails) or taxing to death those who use ammunition will be a seriously considered option.

didn't mean to shut the thread down.... just my opinion. i'd like to hear from the collective here.... any critical feedback??

OK. back to the original thread... My question is this: the officer asked you to take your firearm from its holster and hand it to him?? I have a problem with this. what is the right answer here?? I carry strong side (right). I have both informed and not, in multiple states, and so far, no problem with either. When i'm pulled over it is with all the windows down, interior lights on, hands on the wheel. If i inform, i state, "Officer, I am licenced to carry concealed. I am carrying on my right side. What are your instructions." So far, none have required my weapon. But if one ever does, I would like to know how to safely do this in a way that is completely non-threatening or risks me being shot with my hand on my gun, which by the way, will not look good for me, even if i was doing exactly as i was told. thoughts??

There's so much to consider here... but back to the original questions: Clear or Hunker Down best case scenario is as follows: if you are in your home and DO NOT have children/dependents in other parts of the house suggest the following: 1. Secure your firearm 2. Secure your cell phone. call 911. tell them your address and location in the house. DO NOT HANG UP. everything will be recorded from the moment they pick up until you hang up. 3. if possible, turn on the light in your bedroom or hallway just outside of your bedroom to illuminate the doorway. if that's not an option, the bazillion lumen light you have next to your bed or mounted on your gun will do. do not leave your bedroom. or bathroom if you have retreated to that level. 4. move to concealment (the other side of the bed away from the doorway or similar) Cover is better, but not many of us have true cover in our homes... 5. call out LOUDLY: I HAVE A GUN. I HAVE CALLED THE POLICE. THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY. This is also why we don't hang up. it's on tape. 6. Cover the door with your firearm and shoot anyone who comes through it. The police will know you are armed, they will know where you are in the house. The intruder will know you are armed and that the police have been called. Any intruder who enters your room with the lights on knowing you are aware of their presence, knows you are armed and have notified the police, is there for one thing; to do you harm. Suggest that for legal issues, this is a very defensible scenario. it becomes a bit tougher but If there are children/dependents in another part of the home, if possible follow steps 1-3 but move directly to their room/upstairs, wherever they are.... I know that the big balled man in all of us wants to clear the house, but let's consider for a moment this: when i'm on the move, even though i know my house, i'm a much easier target then the turd who has hunkered down looking for a way outa there or is waiting for me. If i'm clearing with a lighted firearm, he knows i'm coming. and if, maybe just maybe, he gets the jump on me, things could get ugly or worse for at least one of us, and it's possible it could be me. I cannot imagine a worse nightmare then being injured and knowing my wife and/or family is now at the mercy of some turd... If you've gotta clear the house, let the dog lead... and i know we all have dogs in our house at night correct?? the best early warning device known to man... this is just my humble opinion... and i'm open to critical review.

have the bushnell Trophy on mine.. weight and appearance of the ACOG on my duty rifle. not bad and holds zero very well. for the money and similar to the EOtech, go w/ the Bushnell Holosite... Same sight, just without the heavy duty hood and seals. great HWS for any gun. Alot of folks like the Vortex Strikefire, and the new SPARC looks promising.

yep.... since you have a bolt gun, go w/ the AR. you will love it. Stay away from Century lowers, there are a few others that are junk... you can't beat this with a stick: $85.00! http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=104 BCM is the Shiz for the money, Delton/DoubleStar/CMMG, all good lowers for the money. i've seen 100% complete lowers all over the place for $300ish... two in Chatt. for sale right now. one is RRA and the other is S&W. both great lowers. also, in middle TN is one of the largest upper distributors around, they sell a lot of Rock River for screaming good deals. Last i checked, they had these the Predator upper and Pursuit uppers for less then RRA had them. and these things rock. Rock River Arms: Varmint A4 Upper Half Call Wayne at 615-423-1856

Bump how's the response so far?? looking forward to the AAR

excellent. thank you.

have several. they are tools. hold an edge, and indestructable. they can dig, stab, cut, saw (if it's the right one) and will not break. (i've tried to break em). they are worth every penny. get two while you are at it. one is for 'testing' one is for the GO bag.

i'm confused by your statement (or question?), but maybe i'm just confused... At any rate, I think any shop that could open and just respect the customer base and open at least a short pistol range with a decent membership AND walk in plan (like Coal Creek) would do well! anybody can join CC or you can walk in and pay a small fee and shoot there... im not endorsing CC, i generally don't care for the way they treat customers, both observed and personal experience. but I do like that I can walk in and shoot there and don't have to just through a bunch of membership hoops... I think that someone should lease the now empty building next to Sportsmans Warehouse and open an indoor range and coordinate w/ Sportsmans (or not), offer many rental options (like CC) and offer classes, some targeted to women, taught by women, as well as memberships and walk-in options. I think they would do well once they get the word out... it would be the only range this side of town and very convenient to most (i''m hearing rumors about "depot"? don't know anything about it) Wish i had the $$$ and a few good partners, i'd make it happen...

Notice it appears you are running the "lightning bolt" on your AK.... tell us what you think of it... considering it myself.

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i bet my life on pmags....

Thanks Guys for the feedback...

you guys rock...

Okay, where do I start, The Patriot safe I was refering to is made in china, The Patriot safe you are refering to has one of their upper end safes made in the states, their Warrior safe is a cheap low end safe that is made oversea's or is partly assembled oversea's then shipped over and parts are added to get the made in the US label. Patriots "Warrior" safe is cheap, I have installed them before and they are a joke, have you seen one? or just read about it on the internet? As for Browning making safes overseas , yes that is correct, their Bronze and Theftgard , but its their two lower end safes, by the way the features on the Bronze are far superior to the PS Warrior safe. All of their other safes are made in Utah and their fire ratings and features are better than PS's . I always tell my customers about the features, where they are made and let them decide, I prefer a U S product if I can find one, if not I will reluctantly purchase a foreign product. Next:screwy: ******************************************************************************* ok... so i re-read this thread again just now... too bad it took so long for the teaching of fact to come out. It occurs to me that you are most likely the expert here on this topic. and it would have been enormously more helpful had you shared the above wisdom (and more) instructively at the outset of this thread... I understand the challenge of communicating with those who do not prescribe to logic. They will make their own decisions... but there are a ton of others 'lurking' here and many could have really learned something. maybe some did. while driving them to your website may be helpful, many will not go. and for the record, your adversary in this little sparring match has done more then you have to drive people to your website by mentioning your "list" at least twice. I for one have been watching closely... i'm a very bright guy, and calling a product a "joke" or "junk" is not instructive. However, telling me that "the welds are such and such, the X is of low quality and the Y is of poor strength / gauge / whatever, gives me facts. Or as you finally pointed out above, you gave some facts. In all things there are "teachable moments"... until now this one was largely missed. Teach us...

umm... what about the 2 hr closet LEO model?? https://www.patriotsafe.com/quotCloset-Modelquot-18-gun-safe-2-hour-fire-1880-LEO-SPECIAL_p_2.html just curious... don't get me wrong, i'm watching this pretty carefully, i'm getting ready to spend some green myself. and I did call Patriot, he says that the Patriot Safe line is manufactured in the U.S. you'd think they'd put this on their website, so i'm still not sure... just seeking to understand... j~

now that's some funny stuff... too bad it's all true!

so, lots of good input here.... one thing to add. From a purely defensible standpoint, it makes sense to carry what your local Law Enforcement are carrying. the reason is simple. it takes one less nail away from any scumbag prosecutor who would malign your good name by carrying a round "only a maniac who was just looking to kill someone" would carry. your defense is that, indeed, it is an affective round, and safe enough to be carried and used by your very own law enforcement in the very public that they serve. in the Ayoob records there are multiple cases of this very type of prosecution taking place, and indeed in some cases, this very defense coming into play. jmho...

looks pretty good, don't have any first hand experience with them. by the way, the Warrior 26 gun safe is not a 2 hr safe and is not 10 ga. steel.... not sure what gauge it is but i find it unlikely that it would only weigh 449 lbs if it was 10 gauge. it is: 26 gun capacity (13/13) 1 Hr. Fire (9) 1" Chrome locking bolts Press-Bent Steel Construction 449 Lbs. Drill shield hard plate protecting locking & Boltwork Advanced re-locking (prevents forced entry) The AM Sec SF6030 seems pretty close in spec and price, and they are damn fine safes.... AMSEC Safes LP Series Gun Safe and here's some great prices... AMSEC SF-6030 Gun Safes - AMSEC SF Series Gun Safes - 60 Min. Fire Safes just a thought.... not saying the Patriots aren't good... i'd like to know more about them too.

Dodd is near Chattanooga. I'm looking for any feedback from students of Dodd and Associates. please include any training you may have prior or after Dodd and impression/comparison. If you don't have firsthand knowlege or objective intel, please restrain yourself. Civilian, Police, Military Firearms Training - Dodd and Associates Firearms Training any information would be helpful. (ok, i know that sounds very optimistic, but i'm an optimistic guy)